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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And now. Oh, I gotta hit the right button. Ah, ah, gotta go. This episode of We Like Shooting is brought to you by Foxtrot Mike, C&G Holsters, Gideon Optics, Blue Alpha, Medical Gear Outfitters, Ross Martin, Stuff and Things Incorporated, and Shawn's Pew Beard.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): allow it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Welcome to
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): We Like Shooting, episode 686. 686, that sounds like a gun model, doesn't it?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Sounds like a processor.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 636
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is a gun model.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I know, Jeremy. That's the fucking joke. Anyway, our
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cast
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): of... It doesn't like one. It is one. I mean,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): our cast of pedantic assholes today is Jeremy Posderick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): from
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Rivers Edge Tactical in Valley City, Ohio.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a gun range. You're a fucking special level of smartass tonight, aren't you?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yay, I got mail. Yay!
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yay! We got Nick Lynch from Bus Bill Systems, Savage 1R, bringing us all the news. My name's Shawn Herrin, and I am so happy to be here, you know, being shit on by Jeremy all night. I'm pretty stoked about it. Jeremy, what'd you do today? What's got you in a fucking tizzy?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I don't think I'm in a tizzy. He
Nick (reference, not reviewed): took some Tylenol. He's in a tizzy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had to clean up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean, without going into one of your hunting story lengths, I thought a goat was dead when I... I to feed this morning because the collar app that I have says this animal hasn't moved in a while. And I was like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): either means he knocked the collar off or he's fucking dead. He wasn't dead. He's just very sick. I've been trying to give him medicine. I don't know if it's working. But then again, I'm not paying. I'm not paying. I paid $50 for the goat. I'm not spending more than that to fucking save it. Like, I'll just get another goat. Poor Poncho. And then I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): went
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to work and then I had to, I left work early and helped clean out one of the raised beds and we're putting garlic in because the garlic came.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then I had to build garlic planters, but then I had to cook dinner.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, the garlic and I have that in common.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That's fucking shit. Yesterday I was building a sugar shack out in the woods.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shit.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah, with a dude. Yeah. Actually. Building a sugar shack with a dude.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I love how we start the story on one show and then we finish it on the other show. What the fuck is a sugar shack?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's a place you boil maple syrup.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So because of the evaporation, the steam coming off of the sap as you cook it in a sugar shack, the evaporation would condense on the underside of the roof and you would get crystalline sugar. On the underdecking of the roof. So it was called a sugar shack. Nice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's pretty
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking awesome, actually.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Now, will you be able to sell the wood from the roof to kids?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Huh?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Could
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): use it to make popsicle sticks?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I mean, I guess in theory, yes, you could. Or rock candy. You're basically getting rock candy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What about making knives out of it? So you could be sweet when you stab?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just not? Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, I guess you could not, but God, that seems really fucking boring.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guess. Nick, how about you? What'd you do?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): You know, I actually took today off. The fuck? Yeah. He was like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pooping naked today.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was going to go hunting this morning. And then instead we ended up taking... The dog to the emergency vet last night. What? No. It turns out that he ate something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Nick (reference, not reviewed): bad and now has some sort of bacterial situation going on in his gut.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No. So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): instead, I spent the day working at home and checking on him. He was getting his drugs and stuff that he's supposed to be taking.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Poor buddy. I mean, what the fuck can you eat that gives you bacterial infection in your stomach?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kind of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hard
Savage (reference, not reviewed): for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Savage (reference, not reviewed): dog.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Apparently
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's not.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was going to say, my dog eats its own shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): doctor said he probably ate something that was dead or had been dead for a little while. He had an issue with a bear here for the last week or so.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I wouldn't be shocked if a bear left something in the woods and he found it.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Damn. So a bear is shat in the woods, would your dog eat it?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Probably. Survey says. And also if a bear left like a half-eaten carcass of something in the woods, my dog would probably eat that too.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, honestly, he's just smart and being efficient. He's like, I don't have to do all the work of hunting it. I just get to eat the spoils. Yeah. And cost mom and dad a fucking huge, I'm sorry, partner and dad a huge fucking expensive vet bill.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. He was he was pretty bad off yesterday and he seems like he's a little a little better today.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Poor buddy.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Still
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): still
Nick (reference, not reviewed): having kind of a hard time. I also think that he is playing it up a little bit.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Poor buddy. I'm talking about Nick, not the dog.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about you, Savage?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): You know, we had some friends stay over this weekend and sexy help my mom help my mom. Do some stuff around the house,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): and it wasn't very eventful.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): got to bring home a few guns, though, so that was nice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): never mind. I got really excited for a second. No, not so much. I'm sorry, Savage.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): It's fine, you know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well, I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): glad you guys asked what I did this weekend, and I'll tell you right after this brief intermission. Oh, I don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): give
Savage (reference, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what Foxtrot Mike did all weekend. Let's build the dang ISU nines that everyone keeps buying them out of. I think, I mean, just since I've been tracking, they've gone out of stock like six times. They're making them as fast as they can. And they put some up every day or two, which is kind of fucking crazy. But yeah, you guys are loving them. You are absolutely out there just buying up the second they get there. So for a reminder, it is an... Nick, yours up in, I guess, We'll still
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): touch tips.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Go
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ahead. Wait. Oh. Yeah. Point at Venus.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Which way? There we go. Here we go. There we go.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Nick and I have now touched the tips of our ISU9s. ISU9 is the integrally suppressed nine millimeter upper, which with a completely unique and heretofore uncreated gas system. Basically makes Supers 115s sub, subsonic. Pew, pew. And suppressed, which is kind of badass. You can use, you know, pretty inexpensive 9mm Supersonic rounds. Just the normal, you know, PMC 115s. And it makes them sub just by
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going through. So I highly recommend you get on their mailing list or whatever. They've been sending it out. And I've been trying to catch them and send them through Deal Bros as quickly as I can. But the ISU9s are out. They're available. They're right now.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I saw that they're actually having a big sale on the RMB stuff as well. So if you've been thinking about an RMB, now is the time. Go to fm-products.com and use coupon code WLS's life. And on the RMB stuff, WLS's life sale item will also still save you an additional 5% off the sale price. So again, Foxtrot Mike, fm-products.com.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Alright, so first up, since everyone asked what I did this weekend, I went hunting! Nope, nobody asked. Hey, Shawn,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Nick (reference, not reviewed): did you do over the weekend?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): went hunting! Oh, that's so cool. What'd you go hunting for? I went hunting for... Oh, not that. Let me look for it.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Deer.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Not
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that either. Fuck. I can't find it. Where is it?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hold on, let just find this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we go. I went deer hunting. Okay. I'm just kidding. I did not go deer hunting. I went armed rifle hiking.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, do that again. Went for a walk with a gun.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I did a lot of walking and oh my God, are my arms tired
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): from
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): carrying my fucking like 17 pound.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Rifle.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Do you guys remember last week when I was like, I'm going to try to, I'm taking a different rifle because it'll be lighter this time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yes.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That fucking rifle behind me is not light at all.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): amazing how they get heavier the longer you have to carry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, dude, it weighs like 17 pounds. So I have a funny story is I carried this thing around for two full days. We climbed fucking mountain after mountain after mountain. We were hiking. It snowed. It was cold. And.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): finally, the last day is I needed to get something out of my backpack. So there was snow all over the ground. And I asked Mike to hold my rifle for a second
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): handed it to him and grabbed my backpack off my back and opened it. And he's like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fuck? You've been carrying this rifle the whole time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was like, yeah, dude, I'm dying. We were at like 10, 11, 12,000 feet elevation. I'm climbing up these fucking mountains. I've got my bino pouch on the front. I'm carrying my backpack, the rifle.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like, what are you, gay?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude, no. It fucking weighs, yeah, it weighs so much. I don't know what I was thinking.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): love that gun. It's the Bergara B14 HMR. I have a zero tech trace long range scope on it. I have awesome MDT Skypod bipod. I have a flatline fiber coat sling on it. I've got the Bowers verse 375 on it, which is honestly the most lightweight, sensible part of the entire thing. And fuck, man, I'm tired.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't want to turn this into a big hunting story, but I'm going to tell you what we did minute by minute. Good.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The first, you know, we got there, we got up at like 4.30, got out to the area, and we ended up being like really high and there was no real good place to shoot at deer. You want to get high?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. We
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): were like very high above the fields where deer might be. Way outside the range of unethical shoot. So we, you know, we hung out there for a little while. Didn't really see any deer. We did have a coyote scream at us for like 30 minutes. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that was, that was pretty cool. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did that. We left there, went to some other places, did some other things. We went 12,000 feet in elevation up some crazy ass fucking ATV tracks and stuff and didn't see any deer up there. And then it started snowing and we almost died getting down. By the way, I went with Mike G from Let's Go Hunt. And he was kind enough to go hang out and try to help me get a deer.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then it started snowing really bad and the roads got fucking really terrible. So we didn't get to hunt that night. And then Plow Guy Dave got us permission to hunt on some private land the following morning. So we got up at the butt crack of dawn again and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): went
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): out and found... The property is fucking amazing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): missed getting there like an hour before first light, but there was already somebody there, so we had to go find an alternate area. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was a road down yonder
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we thought the deer would be coming from, but fucking cars, like five in the morning, cars are just driving on this like dirt road through this private property. Apparently there is a gun range at the other end and it's like an easement. The road is like an easement through private property to get to the gun range.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): as it turns out, there was an NLR 22 match that day. So it was literally like a Costco parking lot. And finally I was like, okay, dude, we're fucking tanked. I don't have any safe shooting lanes. Let's get the fuck out of here. Let's head over to the other private property that Dave organized for us. And, you know, in that first place, like we, there was two deer, two herds of deer, one like two o'clock from our position and one at like 10 o'clock from our position. Uh, 16
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): deer and like 14 deer. They never got close enough for us to see if there was bucks, but they both ended up running on both sides of where we were. Um, so that was just like, you know, bad luck. We heard some gunshots. So I assume some people got their deer, which is pretty awesome. Uh, then we drove around some more. Uh, we went to a couple of waypoints that plug guy David sent us and one of my GMUs and drove forever, drove forever.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And one of the waypoints, this will be his first time hearing this. So he sends us this. He's like, there's always fucking bucks at this place. So we pull up and it's kind of, I don't know, like maybe 11 o'clock in the morning because we wasted our morning at the other place. Oh, and then actually, I'm sorry, the other private property, there was already someone there and we didn't want to tank their hunt. So we just left that one and went to one of the other waypoints that he had sent us. And he's like, he marked it and sent us. Well, we literally
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): get to that exact waypoint on GPS and there is a hunter gutting his buck hanging from a tree.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I was like, fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nailed
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it. Nailed it, TBH. There was absolutely a buck there.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So in other news, two weeks ago, we were on the back of my property and my neighbor, his son and grandson were back in his woods, like clearing the area and making them blind. And a 12-year-old shot a deer like within... Two hours of being back there.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That is so cool.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. Colorado sucks.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, we saw plenty of other people with deer. Oh, and actually, oh, man. While we were driving to one of the waypoints, we actually ended up driving through some correctional land where you're not allowed to stop or anything. But we saw huge fucking herds, like several hundred head of deer, like tons of bucks, but they were on the correctional property. And so we actually. Looked at the map and went around and fucking hiked up Dud Bob's Trail. And it turned out there was a bunch of other hunters up there that had the same
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): idea. And I did see a deer running away from us up there, but it ran literally just to private property. There's like a line in the park and it crossed the private property line and just stayed there pretty much. But yeah, so we saw those huge herds and they literally just bedded down in the government land and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): never moved. They knew they were safe. Anyway, so we see the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): buck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): at the one way point.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): We start driving up the hill
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then we're coming back down because fucking conditions up there were just terrible. Coming back down and I'm scanning using my thermal monocular laser rangefinder. Like literally just driving with it up to my eye. And I'm like, fucking stop. I got a buck. And so he stops and we're like trying to see where they are. Fucking terrible idea. Stop. It's terrible. Yeah, just terrible. Stupid.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we stop and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): start to walk off. So we go down,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, several hundred yards in the direction that they're walking. And then we throw our shit on real quick and we start hiking up a mountain.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we get all the way to the top of the ridge. This is a fucking brutal incline. And it was snow and like everything. And never, never see them again.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we start walking the ridge back in the direction that they were coming from.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we walked several hundred yards down that direction. And then we started to make our way down the hill and we come across their tracks. And so we're like following their tracks. And eventually I'm just like, okay, we're just wasting time here. Let's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): drive
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): further up and see if we can find some more. So we drove up. I never was able to pick any more up on thermal the rest of the time. And then that was about all the time we had. So we came back. I did not get a deer. However, I have four GMUs on my tag. And hunting season doesn't end until November 2nd. So I think this week I'm going to try to take a couple days and just go hunt at much closer units. 581
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for anyone in Colorado. Because that's like between an hour and an hour and a half from me. I can literally go up in the morning and come back in the afternoon. So I'm going to try to find a lighter rifle. I've already got several different places that I want to check out. And I'm going to take a couple more days and try to get a deer this week. So anyway. That's it. It was a lot of fun. had a fucking blast. It's always good hanging with the homies. I'm so thankful to be able to spend time outside in this beautiful country.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Man,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): some of the pictures I took are just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): breathtaking.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And to be sitting on the forest as the earth wakes up is just something special. So I got a lot out of it. Thanks to Mike and Dave for all their help. And yeah, it was a great time. Absolutely a great time. I am not a good deer hunter, but someday I hope maybe I might be.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sounds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fun.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I like that for you.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy's like, I could walk out in the fucking yard and shoot a deer in the face right now. Do it, bitch.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I probably could.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): remember one time I was watching TV and my dog was just going fucking nuts. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, what the fuck is going on? What the fuck is that dog doing? I look out the window and look. And there's just like three does standing next to my truck. Yeah. Right in the side yard, like right where my camper is now, just standing in the yard. was like, oh, okay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Bro, we saw fucking thousands of does. Like, you know, normally when you have a doe tag, you see zero does. Like when I had a doe tag, I saw bucks. When I had a buck tag, I saw does. Like tons of them. Tons of them.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Usually here, it's when you're out deer hunting, you see squirrels. When you're out squirrel hunting, you see deer.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): squirrels won't fucking stop.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Zester says, you ever actually need a deer, come out of my place and you can just punch them to death.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): tried to stab. I was going to stab one in a parking lot one time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the lady that lived there told me not to.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that makes sense.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Hey, look, primitive season was in.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dustin does says, what's correctional land? A prison? Yeah, like there's a prison around there. So like some of the land is owned and there's big signs everywhere that say, do not stop or you will be prosecuted.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah. Let's see. I'm just looking through the chat.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Our deer season runs through.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see. It started last weekend and it runs through November.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's like six weeks.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I just realized this weekend that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think, one to go hunting. It's like a three-day window. Nice. So hopefully I am not only able to peel away, but also hopefully I'm able to go get something.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): definitely going to go this week. I'm just going to go by myself, go up in the mountains, walk around with a fucking rifle, hopefully less heavy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Travis V1 said, you hunting mule deer, Shawn? Now, Plow Guy Dave said yes, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that my tag is for either, right? Like, it just says antlered. I looked in a bunch of different places and did not see species, so I presume that means either White tail or mule deer.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Plug. I've confirmed the license is good for white tail and mule deer. However, I think white tail, white tail are usually more, uh, lower elevations where we were up at the 10, 11, 12,000,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is just muleys. But anyway, we like, man, the ones that we stocked for a while that there was a, a good, good size buck that we tracked and it was, yeah, it was tough,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but very, very
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fun. Anyway, Nick had to run. So let's see. I had something else. Oh, okay. I need you guys' advice. So I mentioned the rifle. I love this rifle. I shot my nil guy with this rifle. In fact, this rifle shot two nil guy that weekend. One of the other guys borrowed my gun to shoot his. Fucking one shot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they were down. Just monsters. But I want a lightweight hunting rifle. So I looked through all my rifles today, this afternoon, and I have a lot of rifles. have a lot of 6.5 Creedmoor, several .308, but none of them are light. Like none of them are light. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): need you guys to like give me some ideas on some lightweight hunting rifles. So either .300 PRC, 6.5 Creedmoor, either one of those are fine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man, I like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): really... a Steyr chambered in that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know. Are Steyer lightweight?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Steyers are very lightweight. They're scout rifles. That's the perfect...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): mean, you might have to put a bigger scope on it,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but... Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to do a Gideon Guardian 1-10.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lightest production bolt-action rifle is the Weatherby Mark V Backcountry Capra, which weighs approximately 4 pounds.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay. How
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): much does that cost? think with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): round, that would hurt like a motherfucker.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't care. I'm going to fucking shoot it once, maybe twice if I do bad.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You just put a thicker recoil pad on it. You'll be fine. Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That doesn't matter to me at all. I don't care. Let's see. Budget options. Looks like a Savage Axis 2 Pro or a Ruger American Gen 2. I actually have a bolt-action 350 Legend. Maybe that's the answer. What's max effective range for a 350 Legend?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'd
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): say three, four hundred yards.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): OK, that's that's totally doable. I wonder maybe if that's the answer.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in a Woodstock, but I can put it in something else.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The guys in the chat, Travis is saying carbon fiber proof barrel. Shawn, I have I have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on that one, but on my other rifle that weighs 15 fucking pounds. have a carbon fiber barrel.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Tika TX3 says Matt. Junior Mag says Tika T3 light.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dusky. My idea was to stop calling me a bitch for wanting a light hunting rifle. JK, just get something in a nice light chassis. Dude,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): need something light.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nick, do you have ideas for a lightweight hunting rifle? Because I'm fucking over it. Oh, shit. What you got there? You're muted if you don't know.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I put this in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gear
Nick (reference, not reviewed): chat as my stupid Remington. 700 or something like that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No shit. Okay. Yeah. So I have this. quick, real quick. If any of you listeners have ideas for how I can get a lightweight hunting rifle, preferably probably like six, five, three more, please email them in to automated. We like shooting.com and I'll talk over anything that you guys send in next week. So Nick, your REM 700.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I've had this, this barreled action for a very long time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): put a 18 inch 110 twist Sendero profile proof barrel on it. I blueprinted it back in the day.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can't even remember what all. lapped it. It's got the, it's drilled out for the larger scope mount screws.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I put a bunch of work into this thing and I went with a one twist 308 because I wanted to be able to shoot a wide variety of stuff.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Different.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Wait, this is the one that has been your problem child for years.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I hate this rifle. Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have talked about this before. So it shoots one or two factory loads really, really well. And then other stuff like keyhole.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just behaves badly.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have had the guys at Proof look it over
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): back
Nick (reference, not reviewed): when I first put the barrel on.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Nick (reference, not reviewed): couldn't see anything immediately wrong.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's been living in a Magpul stock for a very long time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): am working on the Defiance.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): My
Nick (reference, not reviewed): intention for this rifle had been like a general purpose bolt action.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that I have the Defiance in progress, I've been kind of like watching for lightweight stocks for this. So I'm like, hey, if it doesn't shoot that great, I can at least make it like lightweight.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, maybe it'll be a little bit useful even if it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Nick (reference, not reviewed): super precise.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, one of my buddies swapped out his stock. So he had this, it's a Greybow Trekker stock. So I bought that from him used and I threw the Remington in here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I've
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got a, what a TriggerTech trigger. I had my bolt knob
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): my bolt handle threaded. So I've got a sweet custom. Bolt knob on here made from an off cut from a carbon barrel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then SIG has the BDX scopes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I've been a little bit curious about them, but not like enough to really drop any money.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): By curious.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, sure. By curious in that I think it's an interesting idea, but I also don't fully trust it. Anyway, I bought a SIG range finder last year.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was just one of those like the right combination of features and stuff. And it happens to be a BDX compatible one. And I found this scope on GAFs.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nice.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): They were pretty cheap.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I sent the guy. It had been listed for a couple of months. And I sent the guy an offer.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't remember what it was, but I paid less than 200 bucks for it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I was
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, yeah, sure. Why not? Oh, damn. That's nice.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So this is a three and a half to ten. It'll connect to my rangefinder. I can put my dope into the rangefinder.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then when I range, it automatically illuminates a spot on the crosshair
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is the hold for that distance.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, shit.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): load for this rifle.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, that's kind of cool. That's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cool.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I have not shot this thing in this configuration yet. I haven't had time. When I went shooting the other day, it was like... I had a whole bunch of guns that I needed to take.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I have not shot this like this yet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and then I just got a sling today. I had my Ching sling on here,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is a thick, heavy leather sling with brass hardware.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I didn't realize how heavy it was until I put it on the rifle. I was like, holy shit. It was like a half pound sling.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I got this one from...
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Wilderness Tactical.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is their take on like a Rhodesian sling. it's got this kind of like the Ching sling. It's got this big loop in it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can stick your arm through
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Nick (reference, not reviewed): quickly and easily.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And then tighten it up against the back of your upper arm and use that to brace the rifle. It's like a really nice, quick and steady way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): its field expedient. There we go. Anyway, this is just a pretty simple nylon sling with some loops in it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it does not add too much weight. This thing, as it sits unloaded without a suppressor, is about eight pounds. So it's not like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): crazy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): lightweight, but it's pretty respectable. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's interesting. I'm trying out a whole bunch of new stuff here that I've never
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): personally
Nick (reference, not reviewed): owned before. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of looking forward to getting it to the range. Seeing if it shoots any less shittily.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know. Maybe if it still does okay with the loads that it was shooting okay before, it might be a decent
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): deer
Nick (reference, not reviewed): rifle or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): medium
Nick (reference, not reviewed): game rifle.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): How much does it weigh, do you think, right now?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Eight
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pounds.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Eight pounds? Okay.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yep. It is eight pounds unloaded without a suppressor, but with the scope and sling and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Somebody
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mentioned the weight on the carbon fiber stuff. In my opinion, the way to go for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): weight savings on the carbon fiber is that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is lighter than a barrel with a comparable profile. So like this is a moderately heavy profile for what you'd see on a hunting rifle.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Weight wise, this is probably still heavier than like a pencil barrel would be. That you would see on like a lightweight hunting rifle. You can probably still go lighter with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): steel. Where this really, the carbon fiber really comes into play is that it performs like a much heavier barrel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like it's still going to be heavier than what is possible with just steel. But it's going to perform better than a comparable steel barrel, if that makes sense. It's going to be lighter. Excuse me, it's going to be lighter than a comparably performing steel barrel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's really where the weight savings comes from. If you're trying to get as ultra light as possible, just go with the pencil barrel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're like, I want it to be moderately lightweight, but I want more rigidity and surface area,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the carbon fiber I think is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cool.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the Greybow stock is very lightweight. It has a very low comb. So the guy that I got it from included a Kydex cheek riser, which is basically necessary if you are running anything other than iron sights. Like it's kind of crazy how low the comb is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): went back to the BDL hinged floor plate, you know, so the internal magazine, there's no detachable box mag, which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fine with on this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we'll...
Nick (reference, not reviewed): See how it does. Hoping to be able to get it out and sight it in and see if it's something that I want to try hunting with on my
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): weekend.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude, that's crazy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that rifle has been thrown in your side for so long.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, and I keep hoping. It's really cool. It's a really cool barreled action.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, it just breaks my heart over and over and over again, and I keep coming back, and then it does it again.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Who
Nick (reference, not reviewed): knows? Maybe this time it'll be different.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think, Nick, do you remember that Legendary Arms Works .308 rifle that I have?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yes.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I put it in a chassis, but I still have the stock. Maybe I'll go grab that stock out of storage and throw it back in and see how heavy that is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was pretty lightweight, I think.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I think it wasn't bad. And like I have plenty of hunting .308. My only thing about it is it doesn't have a threaded barrel. Like that's my biggest complaint.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, I did bring Earpro, but like I wasn't going to use it with the Verse 375. But maybe I'll take it, just go zero it and get a dope out to like 400 tomorrow. And if it weighs, I'm pretty sure this rifle weighs about 18 pounds. No exaggeration. It kept, I was trying to weigh it before the show and all of my like desk scales that I have on my workbenches, it errored all of them. And one of them goes up to 15 pounds and it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): errored it out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to need to put it on my human scale.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can just hold it. Yeah. Get on the scale. Get off the scale. Be sad while I let the scale says.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Not so much these days. Jeremy, 350 Legend.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking 100 yard, zero. A 300 yard target. I'm going to probably need about 11 mils of elevation. Like, what the fuck?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think that's going to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): work.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Because, you know, 300 to 400 yards is a reasonably common deer. Distance here in Colorado. Cool. I don't think I'm going to be able to use .450 Bushmaster? Is that any different?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, probably not. No. I mean, yes, you can kill a deer at 1,000 yards with a .450 Bushmaster. You better learn that gun. You have to shoot at Starlink. It's going to be artillery.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, I don't want that.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It'll be like throwing a baseball.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about a .6 ARK?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): do it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I've got my lightweight 12.5 inch barrel. Maybe I'll just go see how that pushes out to 400.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): maybe.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): should be great.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy is so condescending tonight.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kind of like it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): would absolutely
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 6 arc.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's the idea. That's the idea.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): also have this right here, which is my 6 arc AR that I've shot matches with and stuff.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And it is not that much heavier than that bolt gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I also have thought about using that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see how the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bolt
Nick (reference, not reviewed): gun does.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I've got the 6 arc with the 12.5 inch barrel and a carbon fiber handguard.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then I'll just put like a really light fucking stock on it. I'll throw the Gideon Guardian 1-8 first focal plane optic on it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. This is the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): idea, boys.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Nice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Fucking A, Jeremy.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Fuck yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): excited
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about this.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Party on, Wayne.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, party on, Garth.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Nice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Why are
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you the way you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): are?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hurt.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Real quick. So CNG holsters, cngholsters.com. That's c-a-n-d-g-holsters.com.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wow.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, what the fuck is this?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Travis V1 says, Shawn, don't you have a 5 to 25? Gideon Guardian LR. I do. Absolutely. This rifle, I want to be lightweight. Like, bro, I'm so sick of climbing like 30% elevation rises with an 18-pound rifle wearing four layers of clothing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): over it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, C-N-G Holsters. C-A-N-D-G Holsters. C-A-N-D-G Holsters.com. was talking to Chris on the phone the other day.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they make Mac carriers? Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I broke my old Black Rhino one that made me sad.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Ah, dude.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): had that thing forever.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I've had that for a long time.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, so they're magazine holders. Let's talk about that, actually. So they've got a bunch of different ones.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You want me to share the screen? Here I will. Sure.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): learn about this together.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): probably take prices off screen just because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): never know what YouTube's going to get mad about. So they've got a two up, a three up.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Competition, bullets forward, bullets backwards, bullets out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like, what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do you want? What are you looking for?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Bullets forward.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got these competition, Matt. Is it, you just want an individual or two or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): three
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): or what? Single.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. Look, they've got their competition Kydex holsters. Let's take a look at the back.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kind of, they've got the blade tech on this one. What do you normally use?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. I just need like a spring steel or something. Yep.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): something for my belt.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, they've got the DOTS belt attachment.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gun?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Echelon. All
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): metal
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): body.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): There we go.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So, yeah, that one will work. This is the pistol competition. It's quick ship, so it ships within five days. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): $45
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on the website. Use coupon code WLSLIFE. It'll save you money. Obviously, Jeremy, I can get you one.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): But does that seem like what you'd need?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is what I need.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also got this one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the universal.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, that would actually probably be adequate for you as well.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one's $39.99 minus the discount.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Looks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like they have a ton of different options.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Mm-hmm.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): H.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, if you're looking for magpatches like Jeremy, can go to cngholsters.com, use coupon code WLSISLIFE, and it will save you some money.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): could.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Go
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ahead.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I could.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): could.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I could do that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): You could.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not going to, but you could.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah. And by the way, quick ship. Within five days. Usually gets there within five days, which is pretty dope. Okay. Nick.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Is it heterosexual to eat a banana?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Long
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): way. Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hear you have some experience with bananas.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the moaning that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): makes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it not heterosexual.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Correct. Oh, man.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Correct.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn, when you take out that 12 and a half inch six arc,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you go to get it all sighted in and everything.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Check it out. See what kind of bullet drop you're getting. See if it's going to work for you. What do you think you will take with you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): figure out what your dope is?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I will take pretty much what I always take. I'll take my chronograph, my spotting scope, my pours bag plate, my tripod.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like all of the above. Like my whole kit and caboodle that I always take with me.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sounds like a pretty good setup.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of chronograph do you have?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have the Garmin. Is it X1?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sure, whatever. The Zero.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, the Zero. That one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was really worried that you're going to be like, I have the Athlon or whatever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): no.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Honestly, I love the Garmin so much and I've got like the first generation. I just don't see any need to like, I mean, It has never, never not once, not done exactly what I needed to do.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I just stick with it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I mean, I've already talked about this, so people know what this is. But I'm finally, finally ready with the Garmin mounts for the bag plates.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): made some slight changes to it that I think are very cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I hope that people will appreciate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a little bit longer now, so it sticks out just a little further from the plate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you might notice that it's got this thumb screw
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the bottom,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is getting blown out by my light.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can't really...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How
Nick (reference, not reviewed): do I shave this?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, cover it up, cover it up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like, how can I block the light? Anyway, so it's got this little thumb screw here that you can't really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): But if you loosen that...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Watch
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this. It bends.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What? It's got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Peronis. So,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, it's got,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can have it locked out straight like that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can put it at 45 degrees,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): much
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like Shawn.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): See,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm straight in this example, like this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then this is Shawn at 45 degrees.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a little straight, little gay. Is that what you're trying to say?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah. Maybe a little interested or whatever, trying to figure some stuff out in between. And then here's 90 degrees.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): In
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this case, this is Jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he's just full on gay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jeremy's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, you come in my house, suck my dick, call me gay.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Savage is this one over here. It's just a totally different wavelength because he's asexual.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So, yeah, it's got some little notches that lock it in at those rotation points or whatever at the 0, 45, and 90 degrees.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So essentially this way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): stick it on the underside of the plate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then if you are, depending on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you want to put your rifle on the plate or what bag you're using or whatever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the issue was that sometimes, depending on what I'm doing, I like to have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): forend of the rifle lengthwise on the bag. And sometimes, depending on the bag and what I'm doing, I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): put
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it perpendicular, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I wanted to be able to use the chronograph in either orientation.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, it clamps onto, just like before, clamps onto the arc rail on the bottom of the plate
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can loosen that thumb screw up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cant it over to 45 degrees if you want to. Fuck yeah. Or it'll swing all the way around to 90, which I didn't put it on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): far
Nick (reference, not reviewed): enough forward. But anyway, you can swing it around to the other side there and still.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Still
Nick (reference, not reviewed): be able to use the thing and see it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): calling it the banana
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm printing it in yellow, like most of the bus belt stuff. As you should. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the bend and everything, I thought it kind of looked like a banana and that amused me. So yeah, these will be up probably this week.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): basically
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have
Nick (reference, not reviewed): to, what, assemble them and get...
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I will post on there and let people know when they are available. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're going to be very, very reasonably priced.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have. A partially built out spreadsheet that I need to finish to figure out exactly what my cost is so that I can figure out, you know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Nick (reference, not reviewed): much I need to charge. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): will be like 20-ish bucks.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Damn. That's awesome. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is so relevant. I'm trying
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): keep costs as low as I can.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Can you get mine here by tomorrow?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No. No, I can't. But I could probably get it there the day after if you want to pay for shipping.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): well, I was on the website trying to order one right now, but they're not there yet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah. Yeah, they're not there yet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah. So those will be out here this week. And then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Savage (reference, not reviewed): also
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): messing
Nick (reference, not reviewed): around with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some
Nick (reference, not reviewed): MagSafe stuff.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's a little more work. So, yeah, you'll be able to,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, snap a phone onto
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): plate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): saw a picture.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if you're working on your dope or whatever. Pull up applied ballistics or 4DOF or whatever you're using and snap your phone onto your plate and be able to punch everything in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): while
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're checking the chronograph or the wind meter or whatever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I plan to do a couple of different
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of accessory mounts and stuff.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then I'll be rolling those out here over the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): next
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): little bit. Yeah, that's fucking awesome, man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can't wait.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think this is really cool because I have to right now I have like a arm that I got off of Amazon. That's like shakier than fucking Michael J. Fox. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's rough.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): These have been I've been pretty happy with these. I have scattered across my desk here different iterations and different
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pieces that I was adjusting fitment on and everything. And all of them have been fairly.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty, pretty good. Even, even the pretty thin ones that I've printed. I mean, you could absolutely break this if you wanted to, but I think you'd have to try.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): would have to be intentional.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really cool. Or, you know, like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a tree falls on it or something.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. If, if it breaks, it should not be surprising because it'll be like, oh yeah, that, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): but yeah, they'll, they'll be very affordable. They're very functional and it's just an ARCA. Whoa. It's just an ARCA clamp. So you can still mount it to like the forend of a rifle or whatever. It's not just limited to the plates.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, that's great.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): should make sure it's to say, I want that bus belt banana. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would actually wear that.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And I've used this a bunch. Sorry, I've been using this a bunch for both handguns and rifles shooting off of the plate. And it has worked with all of them. Freaking awesome.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Love it. So later this week, huh?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. Sometime this week. I don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Nick (reference, not reviewed): exactly what day because it just depends on like when I can get photos and when I can get the page published and stuff. But yeah, just keep an eye out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And sometime
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this week, they'll be up there.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Heck yeah. Very cool, man. And BusBuiltSystems.com is the website. The BusBuilt Banana is the product. And are you going to have more either PRBBs, I'm sorry, Porsche backplates or the EBT soon?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, the EBT, I am working on a batch of updated versions. They basically just have like more mounting holes. Nice.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Those I am a little bit slower to print. Because they are perfectly sized so that I can only fit one on the print bed at a time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they were like slightly smaller, I'd be able to fit at least two. But I've done so much stuff on them that at this point I don't want to like mess with the scale or dimensions because I really like the size that they're at. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it just means that they run a little bit slowly. And once I have a... A stack of them. They'll be back up on the website as well. The stainless steel ones, the EBT's, or excuse me, the PBP's, the pours bag plates. Those,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have most of the stuff for the next batch of them.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): thing has been happening to me where I order things
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then they go to the wrong side of the country for two
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weeks.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): last time it was something that I ordered from Florida. Went to Anchorage, Alaska for like two or three weeks. This time my parts have gone to Puerto Rico. The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fuck?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. So the last things that I need to get the next batch of EBT's ready is sitting in a shipping depot in Puerto Rico and has been for about a week now.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): whenever those show up, I'll have more EBT's available to you. Or excuse me, PBP's, the pores bag plate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): awesome. Hell yeah. All right. Excellent. Keep an eye out.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is. It is USPS.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100%.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't some of yours go to like Seattle or something? Bellevue?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, that was the one that went to Anchorage. It went from Anchorage back to Seattle. And then it like checked in and out of Seattle for several days in a row.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): The
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): other
Nick (reference, not reviewed): day, Angel was like... nothing happened for a couple weeks.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): other day, Angel was like, what are my Amazon packages? Or no, it a... Not Amazon. It was a different one. And it was USPS. And she's like, one of my packages got routed to Seattle. And I was like, oh, man. If it goes to Anchorage, you're fucked.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Excellent stuff. BusBuildSystems.com.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tell you what. Let's see. Yeah, we're going to do that momentarily. But until then, we're going to do this.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nick, get your
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ISU9
Savage (reference, not reviewed): out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we're twinning and we're tip touching.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. So.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have mine pointed up. Nick has his pointed down.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very difficult to align the tips. Doc succeeded. All right. Now, the reason I wanted to do that is because Nick and I both have this Mediator 2 fully enclosed red dot on a riser, which I love. Now, you had the Mediator XL on that, but you switched out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): did. So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): really like the Mediator XL.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yes, me too.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): But the ISU is very lightweight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of sleek and awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I kind of wanted to keep it that way.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And so I was going to pull, I had a Mediator 2 on something else.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was going to pull it off and put it on here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then I mentioned that last week, I believe.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wednesday
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or Thursday, Mediator 2 showed up in the,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was going to say in the mail, but it was actually FedEx because it actually got here.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Right.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so Bob was cool enough to send one over. So I have that on here. And this is also a very good optic. I like this one a lot. It's pretty compact. It's lightweight. It's a lot smaller and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): more
Nick (reference, not reviewed): svelte than the XL.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just, you know, different. Cheese is mission specific, right? Yes. our optics. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I really like this. It's got the multi-reticle, the batteries up on top, which means that the window sits a little bit lower, which is really nice if you're trying to co-witness with sights or something that are a little low, like on a handgun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is fully enclosed,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that when you get like a bunch of belly button lint or Cheeto dust or whatever on it, it all wipes off pretty easily.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think it's a pretty sweet optic.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Have you shot that gun with that optic yet?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No, I have not.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's kind of perfect. I'm going to be honest. It was like they were made to be together. Yeah. Yeah. So whatever optics or red dots you need, GideonOptics.com, like literally for your pistol, for your rifle, for your carbine, for your long range rifle,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): whatever
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you need. They got the stuff. And more new stuff coming out all the time, which is honestly crazy. TBH. So go check them out. GideonOptics.com. Coupon code WLS is life. And, you know, support the companies that support you in the community. Like Bob is in the chat right now. Where are you? Okay. Well,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): actually pretty awesome how big a member of the community Bob is.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude, everybody, like not just us, like everybody.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the craziest thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he puts in a lot of work.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, and I genuinely wish more companies would like learn from their example. They have just really, really blown up on the scene, taken everyone by storm. I see like random content. I'm like, oh yeah, I've never heard of this dude before. And then suddenly Gideon right there. Top, top, front, center. So yeah. Support the good companies. Support the good people, man. I get it. I get it. Horosun. Maybe, maybe you like those. Maybe your favorite YouTuber
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): likes those. That's cool. I'm down with that. That's awesome. But like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is, when is Horosun in the chat?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Never.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's actually not 100% true because one of our buddies is over there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was to say Adam's probably been here sometime at some point.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100% has. 100% has. But anyway, GideonOptics.com. All right. Now, Halloween is coming up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tonight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): BangRank,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): listener
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sent in topic.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is called
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Eight
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Miles to Deer Camp.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Dustin
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): F. Sent this in.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Slow
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): -moving zombies,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the 1990 Night of the Living Dead.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): During
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a midday beer and burger run, the dead reanimate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cast escapes towards the hunting lease where they left their gear.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Their
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): already ailing 81 Dodge Omni hits two of the dead
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no longer will run.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): After
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): walking a mile, the cast reaches a recently deserted and looted general store.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the best guns are gone, of course.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there's fewer than 50 rounds for all the guns that are left.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): still have an eight-mile walk to get to the hunting lease
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): unless
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we can find another working vehicle.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tonight,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): our
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bang rank is of these guns that are left over with less than 50 rounds each.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to rank those on how much we want them. Dustin suggested Jeremy's rules. S is going to be the most wanted. This is the one that I want to go take on Night of the Living Dead with as we get back to the rest of our weapons and food and cash and everything. And F is the least wanted as we go. Now,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me go ahead and share this up. Here are the guns, Jeremy. Jeremy, do you understand the premise?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): We're completely fucked. Yep. We have to...
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): We'll fight our way through a zombie horde with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Slow moving zombies, by the way.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Night of the Living Dead.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. 100%. Exactly. 1990s, Night of the Living Dead. So the guns are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): NEF,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): single shot, 12 gauge, New England firearms, 27 inch barrel, full choke, fewer than 50 rounds.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Ruger single six, 22LR, six and a half inch barrel, 22LR only, fewer than 50 rounds. The Taurus Model 85 38 Special, 2-inch barrel, fewer than 50 rounds.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Winchester Model 150 22LR lever action. Tube-fed, loads from the front. Remington 788-243. It's got a fixed 4-power scope and less than 50 rounds. Is that box-fed mag or is that single load?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think it's probably... Yeah, it's like... Three or four rounds, probably. I don't think it's removable. I think it's internal.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It'd be internal. And then finally, the Walther PPK and 32 ACP. No spare magazine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fewer than 50 rounds.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to go ahead and start us off with the NEF single shot 12 gauge, Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think this is going to be... Does it say any kind of 12 gauge or it's just nondescript?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It is that New England Firearms 27.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, no, no, no. Less than 50 rounds. It's a shotgun. That could be slugs, buckshot. Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's just going to be like whatever people didn't grab. So we'll say birdshot.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Oh. If we had. Did you guys hear that zombie? Yeah. Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if it's just birdshot, this drops this down. A lot. Yeah, quite a bit.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This was going to be number two if I could pick the ammo that I grabbed.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we'll say the good shit's gone. This is literally like we're bottom of the barrel. Everyone's already gone through this.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This is fucking skeet loads.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Okay,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then I am going to put this at,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): going to put this at a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): D. D
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): for Jeremy,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This is going to go to D because if I got to run, you know, number nine birdshot through this motherfucker, we're going to be at D.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and you know, honestly, one of the crazy things is that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I can't blow the head apart. Except at point-blank range, and I don't want that. you don't have to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stick
Savage (reference, not reviewed): it in the mouth to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): able to play. I will say, though, it's going to make a better club than anything else up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): true. Actually, that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): might
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): knock it up a little bit. Yeah, actually.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): because of that, let's go see. Yeah. Okay. Because that makes a way better club than anything else.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Savage. Yeah,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I'm with Jeremy. I was going to go with D, but also, yeah, because of the melee option. It comes with the mass in that thing. Yeah, C's pretty good. Break
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the stock off that thing and just start swinging the barrels. Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nick, where do you stand?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to say,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see, we're only using everything once tonight, right?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I think we'll play Jeremy. That was Dustin's recommendation.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Okay. It's lame, but I'm going to say C as well.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, this one's a, it's a tough one. Oops, I'm clicking the wrong window here. Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): B. No.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Man, this is, it is a really tough one. Is this, this is a double barrel, right? No, it's a single shot. Sorry.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, single shot.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh yeah. D. D for me. Obviously that for the cast is going to average out to C. Boom. The Ruger single six. 22LR. is a 22 single action revolver. Nick, where does this rank?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to give this a,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to say B.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Savage (reference, not reviewed): B,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): all right. Like slow to reload. The sights are not great. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 22, like you should be able to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shoot
Nick (reference, not reviewed): relatively quickly and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): land
Nick (reference, not reviewed): some decent shots with it. Yeah. It will be like, it would be very,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shot
Nick (reference, not reviewed): placement would be important.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so again, you're going to be like, I mean, yeah, you'll be able to snipe it a little bit, but iron sights and it's going to be. Savage, where do you come out on this one?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Savage (reference, not reviewed): going to put this in D territory because while you will get six shots off, you know, that you can do in relatively quick succession, the reload time on these sucks ass compared to nearly everything else.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): honestly, if
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cylinder swings out. It's on a crane, right? Yeah. No, doesn't. No, no, no. Sorry. I'm trying to look at the image here. Yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): has a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): loading
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gate. It's on the other side. Single six.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, yeah. So you basically have to spin it, plunge it, spin it, plunge it. Yeah, fuck, I'm out on that. Okay, yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yep.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So, Nick, where did you come out?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): said B, but I think I'm going to go D
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this. Okay.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think I'm going to change it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to go D as well, and Jeremy, you?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, this is my F. F. The reload on this is too fucking long. They're all clubs, and this is the only club that's going to take you two minutes to reload.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): God, you know, no, I'm okay with that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can still change it. It's fine.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Okay, that's tough. think, okay, I'll go F. I'm going to go F. Yeah, I'm with Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): too slow to reload. It's just too slow to reload.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Savage goes F. That is going to change the average to a D.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): D
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): minus. Taurus model 85. 38 Special.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, honestly, it's Taurus, so like I'm out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): at the same time,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to be a quicker reload, like 38 Specials. Like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): honestly, it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tough for me to say it,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think this has got to be a B for me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick? I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was going to say the same thing. 38 Special is, you know, decent.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): looks steel, so it won't suck to shoot. It is a short-barreled
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): revolver,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know, small-framed revolver, so it's not, like, the easiest gun in the world to shoot, but snub-nosed revolvers can be very accurate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): reloads aren't terrible. So, yeah, I think B.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): B. Jeremy?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, this is going to be V. This is faster to reload, more powerful ammo. I can still bash a skull in with it.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And it's,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): much faster to reload than a .22. So this is going to be V. Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Savage (reference, not reviewed): know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): think this might have to be out of the remaining ones. It's going to have to be my S. Because it's going to be the fastest out of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty
Savage (reference, not reviewed): much all of them to reload. Because think about the Walther. You're going have to reload the entire magazine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Savage (reference, not reviewed): then put it back in. Because you only have one mag. And, I mean, the Remington, you only got four, maybe five shots.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): And the Winchester 150 is tube fed. So you got to, like, I think, what is that, 12? So you got to line up 12 in there and not. Fumble, like, which can happen, especially with those weird tube feed ones. Yeah, so I think that's got to be my S.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. That's going to average the cast out to A on that one. Now, the Winchester Model 150 22LR tube fed lever action loads from the front. Savage, start us off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Savage (reference, not reviewed): that'll be my, oh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): probably
Savage (reference, not reviewed): be my A.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): That'll be my A. Because it's... Gonna be better. It's got more ammo capacity than the Remington, though the Remington's got some power to it. That's great, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): limited
Savage (reference, not reviewed): on reload speed. Still better than the Walther.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Jeremy?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gun? The Winchester Model 150 22 lever action.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That's ass. Really? That's an ass. I grew up with a 2 feet 22. I can fucking reload these sons of bitches quick. Okay. My childhood 22 was a Marlin 39. You have a fuck ton of capacity. That gun holds about 20 bullets. Was it 20? I thought it was 12. No, that's got a tube all the way up to the end of the barrel. That motherfucker holds like 18 to 22 bullets.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): They're reliable. They're accurate. It's still a club. It's still a better club than any of the handguns. And I have, if there's a bunch of them, I can go, take off running, reload. Because again, they're slow. I'm not, you know, I have enough ammo to get out of an ambush or a possible surrounded situation. Yeah. And then I can fucking book it, reload real quick, get all set. I got about two to three mags worth of ammo. And then I got
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a fucking baseball bat.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Nick, where do you come in?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): also say S for all of the same reasons.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the tube fed stuff can be like, yes, it is slower, but it can be relatively quick. The capacity is going to be pretty good.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): looked like anywhere from I was actually looking it up. It was anywhere from 15 to 20, depending on barrel length.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's that's excellent. It's still 22. So, you know, shot placement is still going to be important, but that'll be a lot easier to do with a rifle.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): all of that is, and if you really wanted to get like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think that would be the easiest one to put a makeshift suppressor on.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe
Nick (reference, not reviewed): attract fewer additional zombies.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I went back and after all of our discussion, I ranked the 22LR single six. I changed that to my F because this is my D.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just think that shot placement is going to be too important.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shot
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): placement is going to be important with all of them. If you hit them in a fucking chest, it's not going to do any fuck all with any of them.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have to destroy the brain.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Agreed. But like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): destroying
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the brain with the 38 special is a little different than destroying the brain with the 22LR. Like it can be done. Absolutely. 100%. You can kill a fucking elephant with 22 if you hit it in the right place at the right, you know, with the right accuracy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for me, this is just a D. Don't think that 22LR is the way to beat the zombies.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's, what is that going to average us out to? S, S, A, D. This will rank, average us out to an A.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Now, Remington 788 and 243. Like, this is my S. You know, going to be easy enough to load. Pull the bolt back. Pop a few rounds in. 4X scope can be used as a club. You can try to get a little bit of distance and then just take them out. It's going to be doing a ton of tissue damage. I just think that this is the S for me all the way. Jeremy?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't give a fuck about a 4X scope in this situation. I honestly think that would be a downside. 4X up close is hard to find your target sometimes. Yeah, I agree with that. It's still a club. You can top it off as you go. That's a nice thing. You can go boom, rack the bolt open, shove around in there, close it as long as there's just one. You can go pop, open, put around in, close it.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So you can reload as you go.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Easy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): peasy. Lemon squeezy.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It is more powerful than anything else on this list.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's still a club.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This is A. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): would
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just take the 22 because it has more capacity.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): get it. Totally get it. Nick?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sorry, I don't know which letters I have.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I will tell you. Hold on one second. So you have picked D, a C, a B, and an S.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to call this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): scope really kills this one for me. Yeah, it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is a tough one,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to give this one...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to be really controversial here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to give this one an F.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Okay. given an F yet? You said...
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): DCSB.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you haven't.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): DC. Yeah, sure. Let's give this one an F. Just because of that four power scope. If it had a red dot or irons, this would be...
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, Savage.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, let me see here. I think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): already gave an F.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yep, you've done an F, a C, an S, and an A.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, so this will have to be my...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): shit.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, this can be my D. That's fine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): am very surprised by this one. I mean, it's all good arguments. Like, I get it. I do understand. I'm just like, this one's going to be blowing zombie heads apart. And yeah, close quarters, obviously. You probably have to use it as a club. But it's also a one-piece stock, whereas the other ones aren't. So those stocks can break off, whereas you're going to have to literally break this big-ass piece of wood in half.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, it's a fucking 788. That motherfucker's made out of plywood. Yeah, you know, that's a fair point. Yeah, that's...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Actually,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it might be really strong. It might be.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's going to average us all out to a B on that one. And the last but not least, let's see. Is the Walther PBK 32 ACP? I just got to look and see what I've picked so far. I had a plan. Yes. Okay. No spare magazine. One mag. Savage, where do you go on this one?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): The only thing I can do left is a B, I think.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): B from Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me just double check what I've used. F, C. S, B,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): D, yeah, okay. This is my A.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that, I think this is a reasonable thing. Got a little bit of capacity. Not much. What is this?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): happy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that. Nick, do you come in?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think all I have left is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or B.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): look. Nick has DCFBS. so A is all you have left.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. I guess this is also an A,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with the caveat that I'm going to say that it is mine with the red dot on it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this was just at a feed store or something. But you know what? You can play this game however you want.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It was already in my pants.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Like, I'm not going to be armed to the teeth anyways.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy, you.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This is my D.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): going to be very hard to...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): all I could see is somebody dropping the fucking magazine while you're trying to drop it out of the gun. No spares. Oh, my God. Yeah. Tuck it under your fucking armpit. Sit there. Reload your fucking magazine. Get the gun loaded up like it's still you could still a club. It's a shittier club. And you're not like I could just see you drop that fucking magazine in a fucking panic. then you're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the magazines the size of like my index and middle finger to like it's tiny, you know, so be really easy to fumble.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean dropping the magazine when you're inserting it or just accidentally dropping it?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): load it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like you're fumbling to load it under pressure and you drop it and then it like slides under a refrigerator or something.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): way to go with this one for the club would be to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wrap
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a cable around it, around like the trigger guard or something. Yeah. Swing it around.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100%.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Uh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's going to average that one out to a B for all of us. Now, before we talk about the results of tonight, wanted to real quick revisit last week for the listener votes for after the fact, uh, things that do not make you a FUD from the 19th of October. Uh, the listeners ranked this one. Enjoying Trapper Skeet was an A, so it doesn't make you a FUD. Preferring wood furniture, A. Liking revolvers, A. And then a B is owning one gun you enjoy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): C,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ignoring every new product launch. And again, things that do not make you a FUD, the higher,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): less that it makes you a FUD. And then sticking with Ironsight's a D. So pretty much very, very FUD-y right there. All right, now let's get to the end of our votes for tonight and see what the live viewers said. Okay, the Taurus Model 8538 Special hosts and live viewers all ranked it an A. Average out to an A. The Winchester Model 150 22LR hosts A, live viewers B. The Remington
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 788 and 243 hosts B, live viewers C. Everyone united on a B for the Walther PPK and 32ACP. Everyone united on a C for the single shot 12 gauge. And hosts ranked the single 622LR an F, whereas live viewers ranked it a D overall. Uh, very interesting results. I do have to say, um, real quick. I want to see, let me
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do this real quick before I do that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): here's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what I think. And here's what I'm actually pretty happy about. Um, start some spooky music
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I want to go back.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see. Savage, you gave the 38 special an S. Nick and Jeremy, you both gave the .22LR lever action an S, and I gave the .243 an S. And I would say that us as a crew, with that disparate group of stuff, that's a pretty fucking formidable squad, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): we each just got to pick one. There were five of us, and there were six of us, and six of them. We'll pick Dually, and we'll take...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): High
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Point Dave. Oh, no. We got to take Lenny. So we have a token.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, we won't. We'll never get the movie made.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Someone to sacrifice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. That's what I meant.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, that is going to do it for Bang Rank, the special Halloween version. Thanks to Dustin Neff for sending it in. For the rest of you, if you'd like to send in ideas. Automated at WeLikeShooting.com. And I know some of you have like texted me or messaged me in other places. Like, honestly, man, I have the best of intentions. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 10
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): minutes after I get that, I'll be like, where the fuck was that? And it'll take me an hour to find it again. So Automated at WeLikeShooting.com is the best way to get us that. So happy Halloween. And that's tonight's Bang Rank.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Good job, Shawn.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): On?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Bang Rank.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, thanks.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really had very little to do with it. That's why it was good.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): You presented it, so.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Thanks, thanks.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): You deserve all of the credit and no one else.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was a really good idea. When I read it, he sent it in a few weeks ago. And I was like, I really think that's a good idea. And a good theme for it. But I wanted to save.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like, fuck!
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, no, not at all. I just wanted to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): save
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): until Halloween. Why didn't I think of that?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well, historically, I haven't been great at picking bang-ranked topics.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): true. You are pretty bad.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Your mic is very far from you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Go
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fuck yourself.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Lenny DW sent a $5 Humble rant and said, I'm kneecapping Jeremy and getting two guns.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Stuff and things.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guys ever heard of them?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Really?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): do they do?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Honestly,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shitpost products, basically.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, like when people just troll and they shitpost all the time. Like they do that, but it's with actually like Really cool and fun projects. So, for example, if you have like an FRS or, you know,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): FRT style triggers, they have the Carl, which basically makes it stop at three rounds or two rounds or six rounds, just depending on which one you get.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about the caulk stock? It's like a PDW stock that doesn't suck a whole bunch. I have one of those right here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): love the concept. Jeremy fucking called me about PDW stocks the other day.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): did. I ended up getting that guy in Maxim Defense.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it was what? 300
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bucks.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And that was dealer cost, right?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I think I charged him like 350. Yeah. I think dealer cost was like 310 or something.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 300.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if you're looking for something that's a little bit more affordable, the Cox stock is a really, really good fucking option. And guess what? For a lot of places, the NFA is not a thing anymore as far as SBRs go. So get the stock. Enjoy yourself. Treat yourself. Have some fun. I think you'll like it. They've got the Grosje kit for the PSA Crink.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Have
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you guys seen that?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yes. I've shot it. It's pretty neat.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's pretty fun. So if you've got like a PSA Crink in either 300 blackout, 7.62x3.9 or 5.56. Let me go ahead and turn that. Price is off. And I'll throw this up on screen.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, I am not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): history guy, but this is based on a gun that used to exist, and they basically made a conversion kit that allows you to take your PSA crink and make it into the Grosio, which is a bullpup, so Savage probably loves it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): do, in fact.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. But they get, they're just making all kinds of fun stuff. So you can find their website, stinkusa, S-T-I-N-C-U-S-A dot com. Uh, is where you can pick up all that stuff and they have a ton of other stuff, including the helical magazines that you can turn some of your AKs into. Uh, that one I actually did was a lot of fun. Hug Muffin says the broom handle grip for your AR is awesome for AR pistols. Just saying.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if you don't know what that looks like, let me see if I can find it real quick. Yep. There it is. So it's a broom handle Mauser style grip for your AR. Kind of fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Uh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but they have all kinds of fun stuff and great prices on, uh, considering that, you know, they're just literally whatever they think of, they make, which I think is pretty awesome. stinkusa.com coupon code WLS is life gets you the best discount that they offer anybody out there. So go ahead and go check it out today,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): means that it is time my friends to fight.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's time for Gun Fights.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Aw, yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Aw, yeah. Okay, so like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think I had ever seen the broom handle grip for your AR, but now I really want one. $24.99, by the way.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it has a lanyard ring attachment on the bottom. Like that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, that works.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that one? No,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like the other one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about that one?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You're a lanyard grip.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Where'd
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the one with the circles go?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one was good. This one.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, that one's fine.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Perfect.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I like it. Welcome to gunfights.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, you welcome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): welcome to your gunfights.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Thank you.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nick, just want to tell
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you ahead of time,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): doing a great job tonight.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Thank
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you. You don't know that yet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I believe it though.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I believe
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Savage (reference, not reviewed): you. wait until
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you find
Nick (reference, not reviewed): out what the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): theme
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, you know what? Good point.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): All right. Are you guys ready to do this?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I am ready.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is Gun Fights, where I show you five guns that sold on Gun Broker, and then you try to guess what they sold for, except you might be wrong. And then you try to guess what the theme that connects the five guns is. And then you might be wrong. And then sometimes people tie, so there's a sixth gun.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. I'm ready to rock.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is our first gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is an historic
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 1876 British Enfield Martini Henry. It is chambered in 577-450
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a 33-inch barrel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is, of course, a single shot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see. These are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these
Nick (reference, not reviewed): falling block or are they?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what's the other
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's a breech load. It's a breech load, yeah. Well, falling block is a breech load, but you throw that lever down.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): lever rotates
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): down. That swoop there, the front of it falls down. So I guess it's like a weird swing block. It's kind of like a drop block, but it's not like a sharps drop block.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): It's kind of like how a lever action magazine loads, but going straight to the chamber.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Savage (reference, not reviewed): like the opposite of
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the Springfield trap door.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, it is considered a dropping block.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, this one is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): did I say? 577 450 Martini Henry,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, I assume a 577 caliber bullet on top of, would that be on top of 450? No. That'd be a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shit
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ton of grains. That's the bullet weight, I think.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that makes sense.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): makes a lot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): more
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sense. That's a big bullet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there something about this that makes it more desirable? Because like Enfields, you can get them at pretty much any pawn shop.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): isn't an Enfield, like World War I, II bolt action.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is a much older black powder. This is not a Lee Enfield. It's a Martini Henry.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): black powder.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is an old black powder rifle.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's pretty neat.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): After we reveal, I will tell you what I think of every time I see one of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I don't want it to give away my guess.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Hmm.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): We're just waiting on one more here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): am trying to submit it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Who
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): made this website?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Your
Nick (reference, not reviewed): software
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sucks.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hold
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on. You're a fat piece of shit.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Wow.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, he's got a big beard too.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I've got lice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Big dick too. Okay, submitted. I doubt it.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): If you got a big dick, give it back. It's not yours.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you got a big dick, you better spit it out because it's not yours.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): submitted.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Alright,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one. Let's see here. Oh, and this had 38 bids, which you guys can see now, but the people listening can't hear that. 38 bids.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see. Jeremy said 400 Larry Potterfield.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Savage
Nick (reference, not reviewed): said 700 guns used in the Zulu Wars. Shawn says 1,238. Optional theme guess.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): $785.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that Savage was only $85 off. Wow. Yeah,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): boy. Nice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Wow.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Savage is really bringing up the back.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he is.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Have you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ever
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): watched Larry Potterfield's repair? Oh, yeah. I'm Larry Potterfield. I'm Larry Potterfield. And today I'm going to make some fucking boob. He has one of these in one of those videos. And he's like, we're going to. We're going to cast our own bullets and do a bunch of shit. I'm like, fuck you. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Good
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for him, though. That's cool.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, well, the problem is he's like, and today I'm going to show you how to fucking do some crazy gunsmithing shit. And I'm just like, yeah, well, if I had a $5 million shop, I could probably do some cool shit, too.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Cool.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like, we're going to electro etch this with. I'm like, no, I'm not.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That you can do really cheaply in here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): In
Nick (reference, not reviewed): your shop.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Not
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with his
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): setup. Well,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sure, not with his setup, but with a setup.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Man, with that many bids, I thought it was going to go over a thousand.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Here's the next gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Your
Nick (reference, not reviewed): themes are wrong.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): What?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a Sig Spear MCX
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): MCX Spear or whatever. This one is an SBR. It is a 7.62 caliber. Does that mean?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Which 7.6?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 7.7 or whatever. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): at
Savage (reference, not reviewed): 3.08?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 3.08.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, 7.6.2 NATO.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This one had 31 bids.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is in overall good condition. It's got a Geisele trigger, a BCM stock, a Huxworks break.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says that it came from an estate with low round count usage, it says.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): again, this one is an SBR. I don't think it ever actually says what the barrel length is. It's whatever the factory pistol barrel length is for these.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): looks like, like, 12?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was going to say 12-ish, maybe.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hmm.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I really want to do this on my regulator.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): SBR it. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): would be pretty cool.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wow.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I really want an SBR range rifle in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 6
Nick (reference, not reviewed): arc.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): My
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): God, yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That'd be cool.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That would be cool. Let's see, the SIG MCX Spear SBR. 31 bids.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yep, 31 bids.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Much
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like the previous one, this was developed for the military.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know, like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 140 years
Nick (reference, not reviewed): later.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): things have changed a little bit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we've
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got all the bids in. Jeremy says 4,000 military rifles. Savage says 1,800 guns used to kill. Wow. Guns used to kill brown people.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Wow.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean, he's not wrong. He's out of line, but he's not wrong.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn says $2,431 and Call of Duty or some game. Or some
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): game.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm sorry. You have to be more specific than that, Shawn. That's a real Jeremy move. And I'm not saying it's even a game.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): He's like, this is, they're all Fallout mods. You're like, what the fuck?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I meant like some other war game.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm sure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): are. But I don't think that the MCX spear has been in any.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's probably in the new Call of Duty.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's probably.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for $2,400,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that Shawn was only $31 off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wow.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yep, making him the closest. Savage was really close on that last one, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shawn
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was even closer on this one.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I I didn't even know how much these will go for new.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the big one goes for four grand to 4,500 new. And I was like, this is an SBR and it only had 31 bids. So I'm going to like guess around half.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was right. a pretty good deal then for somebody.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anyone get the theme? right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nope. Wow. You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): guys all suck.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Right
Nick (reference, not reviewed): here. This is a rare bird, ladies and gentlemen. This is a Glock 26 Gen 5 MOS.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 68 bids?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 68 bids. It's optics ready. It is the Gen 5,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was discontinued a few months back or a year back or whenever that was.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): factory
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Glock or did somebody chop this shit off?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this is factory.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a factory Gen 5 Glock 26 MOS.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You know those fucking 26 faggots were just fighting over this thing. Dude, I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's in pretty good condition. Doesn't look like it's been shot a whole lot. Comes with all of the stuff that came in the original box. So it's got the three mags. What? I think it said it had the...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it says it has the back straps, the plates. I think it even mentioned that it has the cleaning rod and brush in there.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 68 bids on this.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fuck, man.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I have a feeling that this theme is going to really piss me off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): already has.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I'm just, I don't know. I submitted my bid. I don't even have an idea for the theme right now.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All right.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Everybody's in. Yeah. So. Jeremy says $700, discontinued guns. Savage says $800, no idea. Shawn says $868.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Theme
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guess optional. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): optional
Nick (reference, not reviewed): theme guess.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the person who was the closest
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was
Nick (reference, not reviewed): $407 off.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): No.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yep.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): person who was closest was Shawn. And this sold for $1,200.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): God.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): What? What the hell are you? retarded idiots.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Stop drinking and doing crack at the same time, guys.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Now, you guys have to remember
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Glock was like, we're discontinuing the Gen 5 and rolling out the Gen V. And there were a bunch of people who panicked and freaked out and were like, oh, the Gen 5 is going away. And these are the last of the ones that can take a switch if you want to. So we better get them. Prices went retarded.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this happened.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Crazy, man. That is so much money for a shitty Glock.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this isn't even the cool Glock. This is like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Glock.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): made a full size and then they accidentally put it in that like fucking compressor thing on YouTube. I don't even remember what it's called.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hydraulic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): press.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hydraulic press. That's the one. Huh. Wow.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yep. All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Next gun.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Fliggs Custom Guns Mauser 98 Ace in 25-06. The 24-inch barrel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is beautifully blued.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it has a very lovely walnut stock.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this was a sporterized Mauser 98.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is from the era when sporterized surplus rifles were actually like nice. You know, once upon a time,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): didn't really like go down to the store and buy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): commercial hunting rifle. You'd get a surplus rifle and it would either get modified and sold that way or you'd take it somewhere and have it modified.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it was pretty, pretty common for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stuff
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like this to get. Restocked, rebarreled. And a lot of them are beautifully done.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this is one of those.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see. It's got a polished blue finish.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's in excellent condition.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): has a nice checker design on the grip and on the fore end of the stock.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): does have iron sights. It's got a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): scope
Nick (reference, not reviewed): base mounted on it. So you can put some rings. They're like the old school QD style
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): scope
Nick (reference, not reviewed): base.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So in my opinion, this thing's pretty sweet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): many
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bids,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Nick? 28 bids on this. Thank you for reminding me.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 28 bids.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 28 bids.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Mouser. 98 Ace. 25-06. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): am
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very confused about the theme and the price of something like this. I don't even know.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Well,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have two bids submitted. Waiting on one more.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Of course I know him. He's me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know. It shows me right here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in and out.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): All right. Jeremy's in.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see. Jeremy says 750 guns. Nick whomped.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Savage says 500.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Nick (reference, not reviewed): theme that I'm going to resent Nick deeply over.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shawn
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says $1,428 and military issued firearms.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 26? Shut
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fuck up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking guessing. I have no idea.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for $974.69,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that Jeremy was the closest. He was $224.69 off.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, $976. So it ain't cheap, but,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, not like unreasonable for something this gorgeous, I think.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Gorgeous.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Are you guys ready for the next gun?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Mm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): -hmm. And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think so far...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn's got two. Okay. So if Savage or Jeremy get this, then we'll have a tie.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): why I have to get it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Here is item five. This is a SIG P226 Mark 25 semi-automatic pistol in nine millimeter Parabellum.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a double action, single action,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): double
Nick (reference, not reviewed): stack nine millimeter with an aluminum frame.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is the Mark 25 version, which is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): same one that the Navy SEALs use. Wow. Or whatever. So it's got like a special coating that's supposed to be more corrosion resistant and more resilient for seawater.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Does it have the anchor?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh yeah, there it is. It does. It has the anchor and the little, what is that, NSN? Is what you call that?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Cage code.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): code sticker. Yeah, that thing.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, overall it's in pretty good shape.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Comes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with one magazine.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And the hard case. I believe all of these come with night sights. Like all of the SIGs, I'm pretty sure,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): come
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with night sights.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then, yeah, other than that, it's just like, well, it is just a bone stock Mark 25.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a fine pistol, but I think it's weird that people get as excited about these as they do over a normal .226.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah, 46 fucking vids, man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 46 bits. Looks like everybody is in. Jeremy says $850, civilian versions of military guns. Savage says $1,500, some stupid fucking pattern that no one would guess, but it makes Nick feel clever. Shawn says $1,446, paradigm shifts. Goddamn, Savage, you're really better tonight.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I'm sorry, man. This shit doesn't make any fucking sense.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So what I mean by that is I kind of feel like these are all like different eras and all, you know, like the first one was kind of,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wasn't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that like a different kind of development that it had? And then, you know, like that Glock 26 is dumb as it is. Wasn't it one of the first ones that had a reasonable capacity for like a subcompact? And then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): SIG MCX spear, like with all the case changing and. You know, the new
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of ammo that they're using. And then I don't fucking know. I'm fucking grasping for straws.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That was really beautiful, Shawn.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's wrong. It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): wrong. All right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for $940. So Jeremy said $850. He was $90 off, making him the closest.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The fucking high bids fooled me.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Reveal. So there we go. So we've got a two-way tie between Shawn and Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jeremy or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): John.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): would be your power couple names.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, I got it. I was just ignoring it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So while I was home today,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of in the background for a lot of the day, I had season two of The Terminal List on.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Terminal List. God damn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fuck you guys. The Martini Henry is used by some poachers while he's in Africa.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): watching The Terminal List.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just saw that episode last night.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uses the spear at some point while he's in Africa. He uses a sporterized Mauser, but it's not a,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a bigger caliber though. looks like some sort of, he never says what it is, but it looks like some sort of big,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): big
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): dangerous game rifle.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Dangerous game round.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): reporter lady has a Glock 26.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I saw that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): when
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): she
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gets shot in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): garage.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I didn't get that far yet. She was shooting at the range, but thanks for the spoilers. And then in like episode one, we see him field strip and clean a 226.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fuck
Nick (reference, not reviewed): off. There you go.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, seriously. I was right on all of my theme guesses.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this is an easy theme guess. I'm literally watching the show right now.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And it didn't really make me feel clever, Savage. It was more like, what am I going to do for the theme tonight? Oh, you know what? This has a bunch of interesting guns in it. I bet nobody will guess it. Exactly. I literally whiplash shit with this.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I should have fucking guessed it. I just saw the elephant episode yesterday.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking bush meat.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Here's the tiebreaker.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What the fuck? Is that a gun site logo?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, sorry. I'll let
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is an ultra rare. Dornhouse and Dixon Bren 10 in 10mm. Yeah, so to answer your question, yes, that is a Gunsight logo. This was developed in collaboration with Jeff Cooper.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they developed the 10mm cartridge and this pistol. It's based on the CZ-75.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got some changes that make it pretty interesting. Forgotten Weapons has a really... Good video on it. It's designed to be carried, cocked and locked,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): condition one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got like a weird safety mechanism up here on the slide.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it just went away. There it goes. Very, very cool guns. Hardly any of them were made. I think they had some production issues and some
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): issues
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with managing expectations and maybe making some promises that they couldn't keep.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one is in very good condition. According to this auction, only 1,500 of them were made. Very, very cool. Very beautiful gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): At
Nick (reference, not reviewed): least in my opinion.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is like getting into that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): transitionary
Nick (reference, not reviewed): period where combat pistols were still kind of beautiful.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then not long after that, we went very utilitarian, which, you know, is fine. There's like a certain
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): class
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and elegance, you know, that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stuff
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like this has.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And Colonel Cooper, man.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, and Jeff Cooper.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): On
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): killing, on combat, on cops.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, Jeff Cooper was not on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): killing,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on combat. I'm sorry, I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): talking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Colonel David
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Grossman. guy, yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Fuck.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Colonel
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Cooper's the reason we shoot with two hands. Yes. My favorite quote from him is a... A golf course is a willful and deliberate misuse of a perfectly good rifle range.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): would agree with that statement very much.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): had 44 bids. Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think all of the Bryn 10s came in two-tone like this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): could be wrong,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't know that I've ever seen one that was completely blacked out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't want it, but I respect it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking safety is weird. What the fuck is that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's like a weird, I think it rotates or something.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Huh.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): But yeah, like I said, Forgotten Weapons has a really good video that's worth watching because it's got some
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): interesting
Nick (reference, not reviewed): detail.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was just talking about Grossman to somebody on the phone too, by the way. I don't know why my brain didn't. Anyway.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Bids are in. Jeremy says $7,500.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shawn
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says $4,444.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): One
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of you guys was $810 off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it was Jeremy because this sold for $8,310.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jesus Christ.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Wow. So that makes Jeremy our big wiener for tonight.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): damn it. Now we're tied again. Fuck.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And you know what? And I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): theme.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you didn't.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Terminalist Season 2.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, that means I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): win.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I will give
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): any
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of you guys a theme point
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can tell me what show this was in.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, that was Sonny and Crockett. Fucking Miami Vice. Miami Vice, yeah. Okay. I said it first.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): No, you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not. said it first. Savage said it first.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, fuck off. I had the show.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Bam.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Savage (reference, not reviewed): right.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Not totally empty-handed. All right. Let me go check out the chat here. Hold
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on. Let's see. Plow Guy Dave running it this week. Let's see. JW, JWeth1, Outlaw1, DuskyEcon1, NickF1, JuniorMag1, BBGooner1. What the fuck? And then chat tiebreaker. What episode of We Like Shooting was the gun cult introduced and officially in the show notes?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, and Plagody says, is this the first episode this year that Jeremy and Savage haven't guessed the exact same number? I think it might be.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because they got called out and then they were like, oh, we better tone it down. No, seriously, it was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weird.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I don't know why it just happened.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): How many times do Jeremy and I agree on things?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Every fucking week, Savage.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): multiple times
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): week, like four times a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): week.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guys are out here finishing each other's sandwiches like homos.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Finishing each other.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Finish
Nick (reference, not reviewed): him.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): go ahead. All so Jeremy wins for the night. Savage gets the theme point because he said it first.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): puts us at for the year. Shawn is at 27 points. Jeremy's at 26. Savage is at 21. And I am at three. Savage, you're catching up fast, though. Dude, this is a fucking.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I made some gains. I don't know if I'm to make it by the end of the year, though.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): There might be.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you have a couple of good games, you might.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100%, dude.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you finish two
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): games
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): with two points, if you win the bids and the theme twice, you're caught up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's basically
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): point, one point, one point.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and we've got,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like nine or ten weeks left?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let's see. In the chat for the guys, the first episode of the cult was 3.30, making Dusky tonight's winner. So congrats, Dusky. And thank you to Plaguy Dave from the Let's Go Hunt podcast for running gunfights in again. Thank you to Vince H for running it last week.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): While
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Dave was a no call, no show.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): What a bitch.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How
Nick (reference, not reviewed): dare he?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let's see. Tonight's missed tally. Jeremy Savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): had
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the best average.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, he was real close
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one. Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was $31 off on one of them. You son of a bitch.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Savage (reference, not reviewed): son of a bitch.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): We're aware. Anyway, really good one. Thank you, Nick. I should have got that theme. I should have.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): boy. Sorry. I was just clicking.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): screen's going crazy right now.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. Let's talk about Medical Gear Outfitters real quick. Medical Gear Outfitters, Jeremy.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): They sell medical shit and can outfit you with medical gear.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking nailed it,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): TBH.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Nailed it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Name three
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): things
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that you can buy there.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Tourniquet, gauze, and... Anal lube.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to go ahead and give you that because MPAs use a surgical lube. Yeah, that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I said.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I presume that you could use that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know three things you can buy there. Medical,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gear,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and outfitters.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cannot buy outfitters there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then they should change the name because it sounds like false
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): advertising.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They outfit you in medical gear.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I do what I want.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Savage, name three things that you can buy there.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Aspirin. Maybe that
Savage (reference, not reviewed): thing you wrap around your arm. Tourniquet.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Didn't you take my med class?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yes. You fucking jackass. ago, 2018.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yes, the thing you wrap around your arm. They got that. Two others.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Probably gauze and those scissors.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do have the scissors. Jeremy already said gauze, so you got to do something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): else.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): gauze. That nose thingy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): A nasopharyngeal airway. Yes, you can get that there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): name three things. I'll name three different types of tourniquets. They have the tourniquets for the rubber band that you wrap around in order to give blood, start an IV, do whatever that you need to there. They have junctional tourniquets for places that is, you know, like high and tight in a groin or an armpit. The axilla, as it were. And regular... Regular combat tourniquets. Like the cat,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the swat, the soft tee.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they've got all the different kinds of tourniquets there. And somebody said aspirin, by the way. Yeah, they have aspirin. You can buy the boo-boo kit for $10. I had that in my hunting gear the entire weekend. And just literally, you know, like for stings, bites, scrapes, aspirin, burn cream, like all that stuff. They've got it. Medicalgearoutfitters.com. For all your medical needs. Coupon code.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me look. WLS's life saves you money all day, every day. And now, Savage, it is time to go ballistic.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Wait, no. No. What the fuck?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): That's bullshit.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Do you want something a little heavier? It is bullshit that Savage gets the good one like that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. You want something heavier? Okay, here we go. No,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Savage (reference, not reviewed): already done.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there you go.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Okay, thanks. Great. Yeah. It's too late. You already did the first one. Doesn't count. Anyway.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Okay. All right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): So what I love about this timeline is we are watching the total and complete self-destruction of the anti-gun movement.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): And the best part is that,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): You can tell
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Savage (reference, not reviewed): they know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Savage (reference, not reviewed): they're saying is so completely stupid and nobody believes them anymore. But because it's so much like a cult, they have to keep reciting the same mantra over and over despite all of the facts that are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Savage (reference, not reviewed): apparent. They can't even say one single fucking true thing. So this Bearing Arms article, I think it's from Cam Edwards, starts out here saying that in the past couple of years, the gun control group March for Our Lives has been forced to lay off most of its staff and scale back its anti-gun efforts due to lack of funding. Fuck yes. I wonder what USAID or, you know, kind of funding that was. Yeah, it's a big mystery. So now what they're
Savage (reference, not reviewed): trying to do is all they can really do, try and troll the pro-gun side on Twitter. Though most of the time, their tweets come off as pro-gun, oddly enough. But this one doesn't. So this is in regard to the Oregon shooting. And they say here that the NRA wants you to focus on how this was stopped. But the focus should be on how it started. A system that allowed a gun in the hands of a 16-year-old.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (reference, not reviewed): then by the time anyone could stop him,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): three
Savage (reference, not reviewed): people were dead, yada, yada, yada. So the system.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Savage (reference, not reviewed): is the system in Oregon? Well, first of all, in the Oregon system, a 16-year-old cannot legally possess a shotgun that he used in the attack,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cannot
Savage (reference, not reviewed): be allowed to carry it on. Because gun freeze zones. It literally has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the entire country.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Even
Savage (reference, not reviewed): more so than Washington State, which is hard to believe.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Savage (reference, not reviewed): none of those things could possibly work.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Savage (reference, not reviewed): it goes further than that. Oregon does have a gun storage law in place that states an owner or possessor of a firearm shell at all times that the firearm is not carried by or under... The control of the owner, possessor or authorized person secured the firearm with an engaged trigger or cable lock in a locked container or in a gun room.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There
Savage (reference, not reviewed): is not a single law that has not been passed in Oregon
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Savage (reference, not reviewed): the system allowed. Like this is their entire system working as intended.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (reference, not reviewed): this kid did this amazing thing called. Ignoring the fucking law
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Savage (reference, not reviewed): went and shot and killed some people and was stopped by a citizen.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Which story is this? Sorry.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Savage (reference, not reviewed): is the March for Our Lives one. Oh, okay, okay. Because you have a bunch in there that are yours. They're like, you know, repeats or something like that. Yeah, that accidentally. Yeah, so it's only watching a turd circle the bowl as it's getting flushed down the toilet. It's so crazy to watch this shit happen because all these anti-gun groups like five, ten years ago were like rolling us. They were seriously rolling over us,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): passing all these gun laws. And now the tides have turned and we get to see how fucking powerless they actually are. And it's pretty awesome, I'd say.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it's fucking great. I love to see these shitheads have to lay off people because. They are losing ground. They're losing so much ground. The crazy thing is these fucking freaks are out there screaming about guns all the time. This is the safest time to be alive in the United States of America in the history of this country.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Lowest homicide rate almost ever in recorded history of the country.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): come on.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Savage (reference, not reviewed): the fuck are you talking about?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Savage (reference, not reviewed): know?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking crazy, dude. Yeah, this is great news. They're losing so much ground. The shit that they get upset about and the shit that they have raised so much money off of. Like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't want to say correlation and causation, but like USA shuts down and now these fucking freaks. Rap music is not on the charts for the first time in 30 years. Fucking Nike going out of business. March for Our Lives is literally having to lay people off because of lack of funding and donations. Like, I'm noticing. I'm noticing some stuff.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): there's a lot of people who notice things.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Speaking of, next story. Federal court strikes down switchblade ban, threatening gun restrictions. Woo! Citing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 2A,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): by the way.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So unanimous. Three-judge panel of the Fifth Circuit ruled last week that federal restrictions, federal, mind you, restrictions on interstate commerce in switchblade knives violated the Second Amendment. This would go back to Bruin and Heller that any instrument used for offense or defense is protected. Knife rights, Inc. versus Blanche. The panel found that the 1958 Federal Switchblade Act, which regulated the interstate manufacturer transportation and
Savage (reference, not reviewed): redistribution, violated the right to keep and bear arms. Of course it does. The court cited that the government failed to establish a comparable tradition in line with Bruin.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Good
Savage (reference, not reviewed): job. Fifth Circuit, supporting the law's arbitrary restriction on bearable arms. In some, the government fails to meet its burden to establish the manner in which the FSA regulates switched by knives is consistent with the Second Amendment history, principles and tradition, said Chief Judge Jennifer Walker. Accordingly, they determined that the FSA violates the Second Amendment. Also mentioned was common use. I think this could go
Savage (reference, not reviewed): far. If and I think they can they can push it along the way here. Meanwhile, Supreme Court is set to hear arguments and challenges of the state and local assault weapons ban coming up on December 2nd. The focus there will revolve around whether the second and 14th amendments guarantee the right to possess AR-15 platforms and semi-automatic rifles. I think we know which way they're going to rule on that one, guys.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): think I think we might know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, I have a feeling, but I could be wrong.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): don't think you'd be wrong. I think this is just what the anti-gunners are just sweating their fucking pussies off at.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Because they know there's no way out at this point.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And dude, every week we're getting wins. Every week. We're getting wins. Like not everything is perfect, but every week we're getting wins as gun owners. So if you put the second amendment and freedom at the top of your voting order, like fucking go vote. I know like people in California, I know I feel like it's a waste of time and it is. But like if we all just went out and vote, if hunters and shooters and anyone who cared about freedom, if we all went out and voted and we consistently did it and we got our friends to do it and our family to do it, like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's a paradigm shift that we can start to swing around the country. There's races that are decided constantly by a couple hundred votes. And how many people, like we know probably a couple hundred people that don't vote because they feel like it's a waste of time. And maybe it is. Maybe it is. But are you just so sick of winning that you can't even be bothered?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Yes.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Moving on. for a while, you know? Yeah, right. That was the last 20 years or so, man. I'm done with that shit.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): So the question over here at Bearing Arms, as written by Tom Knighton, are NYPD gun permit delays incompetence or something more vile? Yes. Yeah, probably the more vile thing. You recall that back in Bruin, there was an issue with, you know, who has the right to. Carry. And where? So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Savage (reference, not reviewed): me see. If you want a gun in New York City, have to take it up with the NYPD. They're the ones who are issuing the permits. And this hasn't changed much since Bruin, except they can't just arbitrarily turn you down anymore
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Savage (reference, not reviewed): they used to all the fucking time. In fact, it was pretty well known that the only way you could get a permit to carry a farm was either by being a cop. Being friends with a cop or bribery. It was pretty, pretty well established for a long time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let
Savage (reference, not reviewed): me see. says here over at Ammo Land, however, it seems that stuff that might be coming back. story about the NYPD permitting delays and how they stretch past the six month limit laid down in state law. So again, within six months, like six months, what a fucking, that's insane. Six months to get a permit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Even in Washington State, you can get it the same day, I think. Maybe in a week or something like that. Six months is crazy. So something came up that got this author's interest. The NYPD License Division has a history of corruption. They've heard of some licensed officers are now, again, accepting bribes merely to do what the state law mandates from them. Timely processing of handgun licenses. Unfortunately. Corruption isn't something new to NYPD Licensed Division. CNN wrote about this over 10 years ago,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): citing Arbalest Corals. Man, that's a hell of a name. Co-founder Stephen L. D'Andrella, New York City, is a major city in the U.S., is one of the most restrictive cities in the country concerning gun licensing laws, said the retired police officer. The licensing system is meant to filter out dangerous applicants like those with a history of domestic violence.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): So,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): you know, they were getting away with it for a while. They got slapped down by Bruin. And they were like, you know what? We're just going to do that shit all over again. So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): you know, another right delayed is a right denied. I think New York needs to get slapped. I think the Supreme Court just needs to finally fucking rule that, hey. Everybody has the right to carry.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): know. need a fucking permit.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. Yes, incompetence is what got it there. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is a more sinister reason they will never fix it.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, because fuck us. That's why. Exactly. That's basically it. They can't stand losing, so they'll just pretend. They'll just basically abuse their authority. That's what it comes down to. So bitches need to get slapped. That's what I'm saying. Next one here. Report says armed citizens stopped 36.6% of active shooter incidents from 2014 through 2025. And I will
Savage (reference, not reviewed): sprinkle some salt on this one because it's a report by the Crime Prevention Research Center, a.k.a. John Lott, a.k.a. a guy who likes to pretend to be other people online sometimes and isn't exactly the most
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Savage (reference, not reviewed): best. Messing with statistics or not not messing with, but not the best at interpreting statistics correctly. But recently. Recently, he's presented the CPRC data as a correction to the FBI reports, which claimed armed citizens only topped off at 3.9% of the incidents of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): active
Savage (reference, not reviewed): shooter incidents. He noted during the time that the Department of Justice during President Trump's first term, his duties included evaluating the FBI active shooter reports. And in doing so, he discovered that the reports omitted or misclassified numerous cases in which armed civilians stop attacks. And I'd say he's probably correct in these assertions. WLS noted that the FBI identified 418 active shooter incidents from 2014 through 2025 and credited armed system citizens with stopping only 16 of them. This is what the FBI only did.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): CPRC, on the other hand, identified 615 active shooter incidents from 2014 through 25 and found that armed citizens stopped 225 of them. So I'm sure there's probably a little wiggle room in there. He might be over-reading some cases. Obviously, the FBI is under-reading some cases. But I think the factor of the matter is that... Under previous administrations, it was encouraged to fudge numbers quite a bit.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): And I think now that we have a lot more access to that data, closer numbers are coming out. And I think this is a lot more accurate to what the truth is.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hopefully. We will definitely see.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Great
Savage (reference, not reviewed): commentary, Shawn. Next story. Next story. This one was a great one to see happen on Twitter live. I enjoyed this one so much. Massachusetts congressman roasted over pro-gun control argument. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Savage (reference, not reviewed): fucking idiot.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was literally going to say this fucking idiot.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): This fucking guy. Jake Achenklaas. Very good German name. Says here, as a Marine and a dad, I'm voting yes on nine to keep assault weapons off our streets. So now keep in mind,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's
Savage (reference, not reviewed): running in Massachusetts. So in this video,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Savage (reference, not reviewed): pulls out of a box, presumably that was mailed to his house, a lower, you know, complete lower receiver mailed to his house, a complete upper receiver. And a 30-round magazine also apparently mailed to his house. The problem is that his house is in Massachusetts. And in Massachusetts, some of that shit's illegal. Well, all the shit with the lower receiver is illegal because you can't have a lower receiver mailed to your house
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Savage (reference, not reviewed): a citizen. I'm sorry. You can't do it. It's got to go through an FFL. You've got to do the 4473 background check. This guy made it seem like you could just get it mailed straight to your house. And in Massachusetts, 30-round magazines are banned. So I count at least two felonies on this guy making this ad. I mean, I'd really love to see his ass get held to the fire by the ATF in this specific case.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Savage (reference, not reviewed): know?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They never will, because I guarantee it's just all made up. None of that actually happened.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Savage (reference, not reviewed): sure it didn't, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's
Savage (reference, not reviewed): not presenting evidence that it did.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Or
Savage (reference, not reviewed): didn't.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Whichever
Savage (reference, not reviewed): one.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Laws for thee, but not for me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): exactly. Yep, yep, yep. All kinds of wonderful shit. Last one I'm going to end with is more good news because, and I've been hounding on this for a while, regarding guns being the leading cause of death for kids. This statistic that keeps on getting repeated by these fucking moronic anti-gunners, the anti-gun organizations over and over and over again that keep on saying that guns are the leading cause of death for kids, and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Savage (reference, not reviewed): cite this study.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Savage (reference, not reviewed): the study is,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): first
Savage (reference, not reviewed): of all, fucking wrong. And even
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Second Amendment Foundation refuting it still kind of fucked it up. Because it says here, in 2025, combined U.S. firearm-related deaths among minors ages 1 to 17, tied motor vehicle death, trailed transport accidents that were far below all accidental deaths. Here's the problem. Second Amendment Foundation can do a little better this next time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Kids
Savage (reference, not reviewed): aren't born at one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You're
Savage (reference, not reviewed): born at zero.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And then
Savage (reference, not reviewed): from zero to 17, you're a child. Legally. Not from one to 17, from zero. I can't believe they still fucked this one up. Even if they fucked it up, it's still bad for the anti-gutter. So based on this chart they showed here, all accidents, specifically excluding firearms, had damn near twice as many deaths as firearms. Transport accidents with cars, bikes, boats, and other vehicles were, you know.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): Overtook firearms. And then there was firearms. But then you had to break it down between homicide and suicide. Because those two things ain't the same thing. You know, so firearms are clearly not the leading cause of death. And it's certainly not the cause of death for children 0 to 17 years old.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I hope they get this shit right the next time. I know the anti-gunners are, but let's do a little bit better. It's 2AF. Come on.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, I assume. Who did this, Morris Costas?
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I have to go back. Who was this? This was, no, it was 2AF, you know, Second Amendment Foundation. This is their post.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So the actual definition. So don't forget that zero to one is infants and one to 17 is children.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like there's an important distinction here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): why would they take out the zero to one, though, is what I don't understand. Was it so statistically negligible that it just like wasn't even worth it? No, because you'd have so
Savage (reference, not reviewed): many more.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): People
Savage (reference, not reviewed): in that demographic that the number per capita would shrink massively.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Savage (reference, not reviewed): have so many because zero to one, there's a shit ton of infants out there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you comment and ask them?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (reference, not reviewed): haven't.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would because I'm curious.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I definitely would too. Yeah, you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): should.
Savage (reference, not reviewed): I probably will. That's what I'll do right now as you carry on.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, fair enough. I did have a couple of things in here just that I think were kind of interesting. National Shooting Sports Foundation and SSF. A.L. V. Torres to a group student in Mexico over the seven day firearm waiting period. This will be an interesting one to watch. I don't want to read the whole thing, but like I think it'll be interesting. And then I noticed this one the other day and I actually have downloaded the files from GitHub because I want to try to do this myself. But researchers have trained
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): AI. Well. I didn't download their specific research. I downloaded a library that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): purports
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to do the same thing. But researchers have trained AI to detect concealed handguns using Wi-Fi signals. It's called Wi-Fi net. It's an open source AI system that detects concealed handguns by analyzing distortions and Wi-Fi signals caused by metal objects. I don't know if you have like Comcast or something, but they basically can. They've been trying to sell a. Security system that uses nothing but your Wi-Fi. And it just basically looks at how different things break up and move throughout your home by analyzing Wi-Fi
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): statistics and data. And very, very similar on this one. They
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have
Savage (reference, not reviewed): one of those. Remember like the Aliens movie? That biological tracker that was on the gun that that guy had? They have those now. You can buy them for like 40 bucks.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, you shared that with a... With us in the group. Yeah, I was like, fuck,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): need
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing. Yeah, so this shit freaks me out. Because like, okay, they get a warrant from a judge and suddenly they go to your ISP and they're like, okay, show us exactly where this person was in their home at, you know, March 17th at 4 p.m.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's fucking crazy. Now, the question that I have is if they're analyzing distortions and Wi-Fi signals based on Metal objects. Like how do you define and delineate a gun from some other metal object that might be in your house? Like a water bottle or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): something
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like a Stanley cup or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't know, just anything. It seems
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): interesting,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but I'm going to try to mess with it. I got a few other projects to finish up, but when I'm done with those, I definitely want to take a look at some of this technology. Because basically, how cool would this be? That when you walk into my office, And you're not carrying a gun. A big fucking red light goes off and like with a klaxon alarm and it's like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): unarmed
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): faggot has walked into your office. Whoa.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Whoa.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Next time be armed faggot. Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what to say. Fucking.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not my fault.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Maybe you should stop being such a pussy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking carry iron or GTFO. I just think something like that would be actually be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Savage (reference, not reviewed): funny. That was. That's my whole plan.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, thank you, Savage. He's going to comment to that. But in the meantime, I would like to remind you to go check out Ross to Martin. I'm a big fan of the Ross Martin stuff. I have been since pretty much the beginning. Whether you want a compact, subcompact, full-size, comped, comped with a threaded barrel. I'm sorry. Full-size with a threaded barrel. They've also got their new versions. Which are, you know, long slide, compact, subcombat frame.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And yeah, they're just, they're doing great work. They're kicking butt. They're taking names. So I highly recommend you go check them out. RossMartin.com where you can buy magazines, all the accessories, including holsters for 30% off with our code. Coupon code WLSIsLife at RossMartin.com. Jeremy, time for reviews. Actually, do you want some music too?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fuck you. don't get to look at me like that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Dear
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Lord, release me from this hell I find myself in.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Why don't you go build another duck bin, homo?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Dear sweet, eight pounds, pounds.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wearing
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a tuxedo.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Chad from Oregon.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Gunning.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Gun
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and gear review. Chad from Oregon. Six squares now that Aaron's gone. Damn. I'm sick and tired of all these anonymous cowards in Oregon. They're gay and retarded, unlike the autistic hosts on this podcast. Autism equals good.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Gay
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and retarded equals savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Great
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): podcast if you're into the tisms.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hmm.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Savage, rebut?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Next.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Ray says, this show rocks. I listen while I work to try to escape the soul-sucking hell that is my middle management job. This is the best gun pod I've found so far. You guys are hilarious, and I learn something new pretty much every time I listen. 100% worth tuning in.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hell yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude, I feel for you. The middle management. Paycheck's good.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Everything
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): else, soul-sucking.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I've
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): never been
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): middle
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): management.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Also, by the way, by the way,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): learns something new pretty much every time he listens. So twice a week spending like three and a half to four hours and you learn something new every week. Like there's no better fucking deal on the Internet.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's probably mostly bad.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. All publicity is good publicity. All learning, whether good, bad or indifferent, is good. Good learning.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't know. That's not true. There are things I wish I hadn't learned. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wish I hadn't learned anything about the Kardashians, honestly.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I wish I never learned to read.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know how to read?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Or have eyes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): wish I'd never learned to have eyes.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Some groups that I'm in with some of you bastards, like almost every day I'm like, what a horrible day to have sight.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. All right. Go ahead, Jeremy.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm 69 and retired. I have seven guns that are safe queens. I guess that makes me a FUD. Whatever. I like your shows. The cast is funny. Jeremy is my favorite because he never lies. Just says what needs to be said. I don't lie.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): also like Savage because I, too, live in Washington and understand how he feels. Don't you don't know why you all hit on him so much?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hold on a goddamn second.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Not
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): once.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Not once have I ever hit on Savage. That's that's disgusting.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, I just said I could fuck him and not feel gay. Right. That's different. That's dominance. And you're a bitch.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Bang Rank and Gun Fights are fun to listen to. Shawn, love your music. Dang Free is great. I always loved your intro and outro and what do you call them, bumpers or bumper music? Yep. I wish you could play the full versions more often. I pulled up Free Dome on Spotify and listened to it all four times in a row. My first thought was the key and the cadence all sounded alike. Spotify breaks up each by half a second, but if you listen close, the end of one continues into the next. Then it hit me. The lyrics make each song an anthem about everything the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): WLS family is all about, and the album as a whole is almost a rock opera.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I have to ask, who are the band members on the webpage? Since it's an AI band, are they real people or just stock photos? Please explain if you can, and keep up the good work. Keep up the great work.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Everything about that band is AI-generated. The music, the pictures. Everything. It is intended to be like a rock opera.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think I even mentioned that somewhere here on the page.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't remember. But yeah, like every single thing is, you know, about us and freedom and the show and like, holy shit, we almost died. It's just about growing up kind of when we did where you just left in the morning and rode your bike all day and came home before dark. Everything's a felony now. Just about, you know, like Savage in Washington. And just everything getting crazy. Wake up and rise up. Up is kind of like about my journey. Like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like guns. That's one thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): at some point in all this, I became,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guess for lack of a better word, radicalized. Radicalized for freedom. And, you know, at some point I woke up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know, try to get all you guys to rise up now. Smile for the camera about Flock and all the stuff there. Go fuck yourself. Goodbye. Just an anthem against the government and everything. And, you know, we built things here. about American manufacturing and like freedom and like Jeremy does with his homesteading and everything like that. 3D printing, you can't ban a file. Just, yeah, like all that stuff. And then, of course, the penultimate anthem, get pumped for mag
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dumps because that's just how we do.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, but yeah, it's all AI generated. I did spend a lot of time on it, but I really enjoy it too. So thanks. I'm really glad you listened to it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got thousands of thousands of listens,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think is pretty fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got this idea because my father-in-law said that he basically mostly just listens to AI generated music these days. Like just because Spotify has a bunch of it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was like, that's kind of a fun idea. I might do that. So I did. But anyway, P. Rick. Thanks for listening, man. 69. Nice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What seven guns are your safe queens? Right back in, because that's... I'm very curious to hear.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's seven Glock 26s.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Bro.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Probably. He paid $1,200 each. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, I'm glad he can afford that. That's fucking cool. Okay, Jeremy, who's the winner?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I mean, it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tough.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Who didn't?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): middle guy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): If you really think it deserves it, you can give out too.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean, the problem is the old guy thinks we're hitting on Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think he means just like, why do we pick on him?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That's not what he said.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Words have meaning.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hey, Jeremy, you know what? Maybe back in Prick's time,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): saying back
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then. I'm Ron Burgundy in this shit. I'm reading exactly what you wrote.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Exactly.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And the bonus hidden track.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): But the other guy said six squares because Aaron's gone and he called Savage Game retarded. I like that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Wait, do you want to give out three tonight? Is that what you're telling me?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Kind of. Okay,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): done. Jeremy said it. Jeremy said it. All three of you tonight get a prize pack. Email Krista, automated at welikeshooting.com, and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): get a prize pack. And the rest of you, you know, sometimes crazy things can happen. Jeremy decides, like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can do whatever he wants. And so for the rest of you, if you'd like to submit a review, Nick, where can they submit a review?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can go to dashboard.welikeshooting.com.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Close.welikeshooting.com slash dashboard.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I was so close.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, you were almost there. And what if they want to text it?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Then it's 741741.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No. You can text your name and review to 7435002171. Thanks to everyone who left reviews. And I hope to see the rest of yours soon. And fuck, man. That's going to do it for this episode of... Oh, did anyone... Oh, Savage left. Okay, bye.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wait,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did he send a message?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fell out for no reason, but I do have to go. Love you guys. Okay, we love you too, Savage. Okay. Wait, maybe Rick's right. We are hitting on him.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Hitting down on him.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't know. Let me just double check the live chat here real quick. Government has said that for a long while. They can tell what you're packing, what room you're in, says Tin Man.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Tin Man, fuck, I wasn't live commenting on 10 minutes ago. Nice. It's okay, old fellow. We get it. This newfangled technology and whatnot. Let's go hunt podcast. Oh, never mind. He just said heavy breathing.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Timer K, origami.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think that is all caught up then.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All right, that's going to do it. Join Gun Owners of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): America.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Owners.org slash WLS. If you learn something new from this show every week, why don't you join the agency? Agency171.com.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Go
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): check that out. Let me know what you think. Suicide prevention line number is 988. If you need it, use it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Ain't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no shame in the game. We want you here to fight with us. Sometimes life gets hard. Sometimes we don't have people we can lean on. So why not use something totally anonymous where you can actually talk about the things that are bugging you? And hopefully be here with us for a long time. That's what we want. 988 from your phone. Always prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. Never listen to Savage and that commie nonsense that he spouted in the other show.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): show. I don't remember. Yeah, it was the other show.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you don't know what I'm talking about, go listen to Double Tap this week. And you'll get so mad.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also love you like Savage loves us. And we'll see you next time. Goodbye.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): go ahead.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): should be curious before you're certain. You'll be wrong less, and it's more fun, allegedly.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Remember, jerk off first, then think about it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100%. I agree with all that.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Where is the end button?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): time I came prepared with a list from the internet. Perfect.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you want to give it to the audio viewers? We're still recording.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I just did.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Okay, then. Bye.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): podcast has been a production of the Firearms Radio Network. For more, visit firearmsradio.net.