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  • The hosts explain why they prefer a red dot alongside or instead of an LPVO, focusing on speed, peripheral vision, awkward shooting positions, and backup aiming options. Source at 00:13:33

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    acquire a red dot. And I get to keep peripheral vision. I get to keep like, you know. Everything going on around me, I can see it. I'm not looking through a tube. I'm just literally looking at the threat with the dot superimposed on the threat. Whereas when you have an LPVO, you have to raise it. have to make sure that, you know, depending on what your exit, your eye relief and your exit pupil are, like you have to get it centered and get it down. And, you know, if you're shooting targets on
  • They discuss higher-pressure cartridge cases and agree that the concept can make sense, while noting possible wear, tuning, and manufacturing tradeoffs. Source at 00:20:18

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    Right. You can make the material thicker. You can use different alloys. You can do, you know, various things. But like, yes. I mean, when you. If you're going to say like, well, does a.
  • A listener question about dusty farm conditions leads to a practical discussion of cleaning optics and pistols, plus the idea that iron sights may be simpler in very dirty environments. Source at 00:24:14

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    do agree with the red dot thing though. Even a closed emitter. There have been days when I've been doing like dusty farm work. And I pull my pistol out at the end of the night and look. And I wouldn't have been able to see that dot
  • The episode covers several product-and-news items, including Team Wendy's lighter ballistic helmet, Smith & Wesson acquiring Savage Arms, and a new Hornady biometric safe. Source at 00:45:03

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    like, you know, it's a bit of extra weight on your head. Well, Team Wendy has introduced their Exfil Endurance Ballistic Helmet engineered to reduce the burden of extended wear. So it's a lightweight ballistic helmet made out of the UHM WPE. Only weighs 2.29 pounds. Like I'm pretty sure my night vision weighs 2.29 pounds and my helmet an extra six, maybe seven pounds. Because, you know, I have like the counterweight lead weights on the back

Chapter guide

  1. 00:00:46 — Opening banter and show setup
  2. 00:05:39 — Foxtrot Mike ISU 9 and subsonic ammo discussion
  3. 00:10:29 — Why red dots beat LPVOs for speed
  4. 00:18:44 — Higher-pressure cases and cartridge wear
  5. 00:23:35 — Dirty-farm carry guns and dusty optics
  6. 00:29:02 — Choosing the next gun: roller-delayed, bolt guns, and .338 ARC
  7. 00:45:03 — Industry news roundup: helmets, acquisitions, and biometrics
  8. 01:02:53 — Ballistics apps, dope cards, and a cheap suppressor wrap-up

Double Tap 485 – Sugar Shack — episode and original audio

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): episode of Double Tap is brought to you by Foxtrot Mike. Midwest Industries, Night Vision, Bowers Group, and Second Call Defense.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Welcome to Double Tap, episode 485. We've got your cast tonight. We've got the crew, the three amigos. We've got Jeremy Pazderick from River's Edge Tactical in Valley City, Ohio. We've got Nick Lynch from Bus Built Systems. And my name is Shawn Herrin from Colorado. So glad to be here with you guys. Glad to be here tonight. Honestly, a little tired, though. So, you know, if we cut it off early, like

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): Great show.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Run the credits. Let me hit the credits. Any final words there tonight, Nick?

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, it was a long run.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean, this specific episode.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah. About nine seconds by my clock.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): It was a lot of hard work, but we got there.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They're like, honestly, I stopped enjoying the show seven years ago. I've just been too afraid to stop. It's just like part of my habit now.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): He wasn't saying hi to me, but

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is in the process of overflowing.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't really want to. Be smelling like I took a bath in beer

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I drive home.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm kidding. Angel drives.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): What's the worst?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What's the worst that could happen? The worst is actually pretty bad overall.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So, yeah, I'm trying to avoid that. But, you know, I am glad to be here. I am a little tired, but fucking I'm stoked to do the show here. If you don't know, Double Tap is a show where we do a bunch of industry news and a bunch of listener questions. We used to have listener questions in the other show, but it just got too long, so we moved it over to this one, and we've been living happily ever after in this utopia of guns and stuff.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you want to send in your question, you can go to welikeshooting.com slash dashboard. Click on Dear WLS, or you can text your name and question to 743-500-2171. I think at some point, it would be fun to do a live text-in show.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, because like

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you text the number, it like goes into a process and gets added to our database and so on. And then we cover it at some point.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): be fun to do like a live

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in show and live call in show. We're really behind on that.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): has been a while since we've done a call in show.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we should. When we move over to the new streaming system, I built in. Live call-in functionality. So we will do it like that. Nice.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do it shortly thereafter when we go live there. But anyway, let's go ahead and get into the show.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): A live pigeon episode. All of these messages were brought to us via carrier pigeons.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): why sometimes the responses are a little late.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): But just a little bit.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, that would be awesome. If people could like send us carrier pigeons.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. You're going to have to start training pigeons.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have enough hobbies.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): then they'll fly back to you.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you do it?

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just got too much going on.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't think I can.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): have

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): much, so many things.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Why not?

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, I have six children

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): I have to provide for, and that just really takes up a lot of my time.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): and Jeremy and Savage.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was just trying to think who the other three are.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know. They live in Canada.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): You wouldn't know them. They live in another country.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): go to a different school.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Exactly.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tell you who doesn't go to a different school. Foxtrot Mike. Oh, yeah. They posted a reel today talking about something that you've talked about a bunch of times, which is that basically with the ISU 9, which I have here in my little beer-soaked paw,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is the integrally suppressed

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 9mm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): upper, built basically for FRSs and all kinds of other stuff. So,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, Nick's got one, too.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): twinning now.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hold on.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): Boom. Roasted. We got to touch tips.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, hold on.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my screen, we're both pointing the same direction.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's fine. On mine, we're pointing opposite.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, good. Are we touching tips?

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): we were at least on my screen.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, good. Perfect. So that's how it looked to the listeners, I believe.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't really know. But anyway, they posted showing them shoot 115 grain through the regular Foldy Boy. And 124 grain through the regular Foldy Boy. And then the ISU 9 through 115s and 124s through it. And then they showed the data from the chronograph. And it literally, this does make supers subsonic. So even quieter. Like, just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): honestly, really freaking cool. Remfire Radio says your tips looked great, gentlemen. Okay, excellent. Good. I'm

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do you think that's a cool thing, Nick?

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think it's a cool thing.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): a very cool thing, as Martha Stewart would say.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): a very cool thing.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): though?

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's neat.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is neat.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it makes them quieter?

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): guess.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about the fact that you can use Much cheaper ammunition to go quieter.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean, that's always a bonus too, I guess.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): normally you're shooting like what, 147s or heavier?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, you shoot heavy stuff to be subsonic and yeah, that heavy stuff is usually more expensive.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, so now you can shoot the cheaper ammo subsonic, have it be quieter with no

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): changes, which is pretty freaking awesome. So go check them out.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Guys,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got to be honest with you. These things literally have sold out like six times. They'll work all freaking day,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a bunch more of them. They'll put like 25 on the website that they worked on. And then boom, like gone. The other day I got an alert.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): set myself up an alert and I got an alert that they put 25 on the website.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was like, hell yeah. Let me share this out to Dealbro. And by the time I hit submit on DealBro, literally takes like

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seconds. They had three left.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Man. Did you put up a life alert?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, no.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just have my AI checking the website once a minute

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to get stock quantities. And the second it goes into stock, like because, you know, I've had several people hit me up and be like, I can't get it. Now I like have a monitor going and I try to send it out whenever they go back in stock. But there's been one other time and it was like 10 minutes and it was sold out by the time I even got to the website.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. So

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): $4.99, right? Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): $4.99 for the entire complete upper that includes the suppressor as part of the whole system. No tax stamp. And in a lot of states and places you can transfer it or your local dealer can transfer it on a 4473. So like what a time to be alive. Go check it out. It is the ISU9. It is at fm-products.com. And the coupon code is WLSISLIFE. And you guys have been killing it using that, by the way. Appreciate you.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nick, Dear WLS is the segment where we take listener questions. And once again, they can text their name and question to 743-500-2171. Nick, please take the first one. Yeah. All right.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): first question comes from MonsterBearManUnderYourBed.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Why does it seem like most everyone piggybacks slash cans a red dot with an LPBO? The red dot already covers the 1X.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): not go with a multiple power scope that starts in the 2, 3, or 4 power range, for example?

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a great question.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is a great question. And I can't say why everyone does it. I can only tell you why I do it. And

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): goes back many, many years. Circa 2016, we'll say.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was me,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): little

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fellow Shawn, just at the range, doing some training. Some self-defense training. And they were like, we're going to do,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think they called it the pit bull drill.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was like, what's that? You going to rap at me and then I'm going to the threat?

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they were like, no. They filled a gallon jug, like a milk jug, with water.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they put it at the target line. And then they ran a rope 21 feet back to me.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): someone held the rope.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they said, on your command. Or no, I think they did either a timer or said threat or something like that. I don't remember what the command was. The person holding the jug ran

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the rope pulls the jug at you as fast as that person can run.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): from the time they call threat or the beep goes off,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have 21 feet to draw your gun and engage a bouncing ass milk jug on the ground as if it was a dog attacking you.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that got me to think. Like to change my whole way of thinking and that you don't have a lot of time. Have you seen those videos of like the wild hogs and boars and stuff like coming after hunters and stuff

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how fucking

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that happens? It like it's crazy how fast it happens. Like, you know, a lot of them never get a gun drawn. They never get their rifle raised. It's just like it's coming at them and then it's there. And, you know, a lot of them get lucky. Thank God. But,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, it's just a scary thing.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, and that drill is like way faster than you realize.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. It's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): humbling.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fact, it is a great drill. I highly recommend you guys try it. It's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): humbling, but you can actually get pretty good at it. And, you know, like the milk jug is coming. It hits a rock. It's bouncing. And you have to draw and engage in 21 feet, which I don't know if that's true anymore, that that's like the accepted. Contact different distance for any kind of violent encounter. But back in the day, it was the accepted distance. So anyway,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): back to the actual question.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): reason that I have that

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): least for me,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): find it much easier

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): faster

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): acquire a red dot. And I get to keep peripheral vision. I get to keep like, you know. Everything going on around me, I can see it. I'm not looking through a tube. I'm just literally looking at the threat with the dot superimposed on the threat. Whereas when you have an LPVO, you have to raise it. have to make sure that, you know, depending on what your exit, your eye relief and your exit pupil are, like you have to get it centered and get it down. And, you know, if you're shooting targets on

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a static range competition, PCC, stuff like that, it's a little bit different than a...

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Situation that's like growing and changing every second. And I think that it takes more effort and you kind of shut yourself off a little bit from a highly changing situation

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): when you're using an LPVO and a Red Dot. I love the LPVO. I think it's awesome. And even if it's at 1x, that's totally a cool thing. But

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this yourself with a safe and cleared gun is, you know, turn around. Like get as far away from one side of the room as you can.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): safe. Yeah, be safe. Have somebody call an object.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then you have to turn around

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sight in that object

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): quickly. And tell me which one's faster for you, whether it is an LPVO or a Red Dot. For me,

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): maybe I suck, I don't know, but it is Red Dot every single time. As much as I love LPVOs, I usually have either a Red Dot on a diving board or I

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one, you know, 45 degree can or whatever. I've got a bunch of different cans. So that's me, Nick. What do you think?

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): agree with all of what you said. And some additional things would be, of course, backup. Something happens to your scope.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I mean, odds are if your scope gets taken out and you have a red dot mounted on the scope mount, your red dot's probably also not in great shape. But,

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, there could be, I guess, situations where you damage the scope in some way.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's nice. It's nice for spotting if you're like,

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): even a 10 power, right? You could have like a 1 to 10. Even rolled all the way up into 10, sometimes it can be hard to find

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're looking for

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): that magnification.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): being able to raise your head up a little bit and look through the dot and put it on the hillside over there or whatever and be like, that's the area that I need to look in.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then bring your eye back down behind the magnification can be very helpful in actually zeroing in on what you're trying to find. That's pretty cool. You talked about just being faster in general. Another good reason is shooting from awkward positions. It can be hard to get a proper... Like you talked about, your eye has to be in the right spot behind a magnified optic or a rifle scope, even if it's at 1x.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): eye box is less forgiving than a red dot. So if you are shooting from some sort of non-conventional awkward position, like trying to shoot under a barricade or something. It can be a lot easier to get behind a red dot

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): actually be able to use the red dot.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of why you see some competition guys with multiple red dots mounted.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, like they'll have an offset and then one in the normal 12 o'clock position. And that is so that if they're shooting from awkward positions, they have an alternative sight

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they can get behind.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's a good point. I hadn't even thought of that.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, so that's all really handy. I think that the medium power optic stuff is going to get its day

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): some point.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think it is kind of coming around,

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think it'll be a bigger thing

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): the next couple years.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): think there's a lot of stuff. Like 1X is never true, truly 1X on an LPBO.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): it can be.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): little funky and it can have its drawbacks. So going up to like two power, I think is kind of nice, especially if you do have a red dot.

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm a really big fan of like the two to twelve, four to sixteen magnification range. Like I think those are pretty, pretty handy

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty versatile. Yeah. And then if you combine them with a red dot,

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): you've got

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): lot of a lot of territory covered

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): So, yeah, I guess. There are reasons, but I also kind of agree with you that

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): power stuff should be more popular.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Damn, I didn't realize we would have such

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): strong

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and well-formed opinions on that.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very nice.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, next question from Carl F. Hey, y'all. Hey, all. Just wondering what your thoughts are regarding these new cases designed for higher pressure like NAS-3 and Peak Alloy? They promise higher velocity, but I imagine they'll beat up the guns something fierce. I wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze. Keep up the great podcast, Carl. Hashtag make politicians afraid again.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): read that like such a jackass that it didn't process in my mind as a question. So hold on, please, while I read this again

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my head. Oh, okay.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know. What do you think, Nick? Do you think they'll beat up the gun a little bit more?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Maybe a little bit. They might need a little bit of tuning in a semi-auto to

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): be

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): pressure. But the idea is that the casing itself is able to handle more of the pressure, the increased pressure or chamber pressure.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): So shooting them through like bolt guns and stuff, I don't think there'll be any real difference. There'll be a little faster barrel wear because the velocity is higher and the pressure is higher.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Nick (reference, not reviewed): even then, I don't know like how significant that was.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think they sound awesome. I'm all about it.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Same. Jeremy, this is the question from.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): read it. I read it. Cool.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do you think?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yes. I mean,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): answer is yes. It's just to what degree.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we have

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ways of remediating that kind of thing. So like.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Right. You can make the material thicker. You can use different alloys. You can do, you know, various things. But like, yes. I mean, when you. If you're going to say like, well, does a.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know, does a.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Does

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): taking a very similar cartridge from 50,000 to 80,000 PSI cause more wear on the gun? Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): question is, is it the same gun and to what degree?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if they've negated that extra wear with various machining and material practices, then

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to say what the wear is and who's to say if they didn't correct it through manufacturing process?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I agree. So the ultimate question was, I wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze? And I think definitely.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Now, my question is only, is the juice worth the squeeze? Do I give enough of a shit for what I'm going to do with it to go that route?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this going to become the new Ackley Improved? You're going to have a .30-06. They're going to have a .30-06 NAS-3. And don't shoot it in an old gun. Can't do that. Jeez, yeah. It's the Ackley improve of the day. You know what I mean? Like, this is where,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know, everything changes for that, right?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean, I've told you. I've said it on the show before. I've been saying it since we started this shit. That the future of firearms is going to be in the ammunition. The day they can make something as small as a .25 auto that hits like a .300 Win Mag is the day that guns will then change forever.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very true.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was the Korea Tech Combat Wombat?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fires a five grain bullet or a three grain bullet at 50,000 feet per second. Jesus. And that was a sci-fi book, right? It was Tom Stranger, Interdimensional Insurance Agent.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I haven't read those, I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't think. Larry Korea puts himself in that book a little bit more than he usually does. And one of the versions of him from the multiverse. Owns Korea Tech, which is the multi-dimensional weapons manufacturer that's like the best in every dimension. It's awesome. And so Tom Stranger talks about his Korea Tech combat wombat that fires like a three grain bullet going 50,000 feet per second. But if you do the fucking math,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): terrifying. Yeah. Like he shoots somebody and the guy just explodes, right? Yeah. And you can overcome lack of mass with velocity. You just need a lot of it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would the recoil impulse on that be, I wonder?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Well, you know, you got to have the deus ex machina in there. That's one line of dialogue. Thank God we invented the whatever so we could do this.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, that's true. Don't need to overthink it. All

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy, next question from

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Durian84.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Duran84. How often do you guys field strip your concealed carry pistol? The main problem I have is as a farmer, all the dust and debris that collects even IWB or when I carry OWB, I quit carrying a gun with a red dot for this reason. It was always a dusty lens. could barely see through any recommendations when working in dirty areas to keep it cleaner. Average day for me is similar sounding to Jeremy on the farm, livestock gardening, haybilling, and the like. Thanks in advance, guys.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Air compressors are a godsend. Especially if it's just like hay chaff and stuff. And dusty shit like that. Take your fucking air compressor and just...

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do agree with the red dot thing though. Even a closed emitter. There have been days when I've been doing like dusty farm work. And I pull my pistol out at the end of the night and look. And I wouldn't have been able to see that dot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my life depended on it. I would have been point shooting.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That makes

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sense. For me, not a problem at all. It's like belly button lint and pubic hair.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I've had really, really dusty days in the middle of summer when it hasn't rained in a few weeks and you're baling hay or stacking hay or straw or something like that. You're stacking straw in the fall or whatever.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's honestly why I think I'm going to take the red dot off my Gideon because it does get dirty to the point where, you know, it's midday. You could say like, oh, every night just wipe it off with a cloth. But we're talking

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wipe

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it off with a cloth, what, four or five times a day?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just put an enclosed emitter in that case.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no, it's insane. Even with an enclosed emitter, it's stuck to both sides. Oh, I see. That makes sense. It's stuck to the front and the back of it. And now you got two lenses to wipe off, right? As far as like chaff on the outside, I just blow it off with a... Air gun.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And if you don't have an air compressor, you could just buy one of these things from Amazon. Just a little blower. This one, by the way.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): He has a farm. He has an air compressor.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): He does, but

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): talking to people that don't.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah. Like if you have some kind of problem and you need to blow your

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): shit up. If you're a fucking grown man and you don't own an air compressor, unfuck your life. First of all,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): own an

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): air compressor. I have one in the shop.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Right. I'm saying, if you're a grown man and you don't own an air compressor, You don't have to own like six nail guns and every attachment that comes to them, but you should own a fucking air compressor. Like, come on, be a man.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I also have a battery-powered blower on,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): addition, on workbench up here, workbench downstairs, air compressor, and I've got one of these little battery things that I use more than all of them put together.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Any

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): further thoughts there, Nicholas?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think Jeremy's like the perfect one to... Answer that. Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I don't, I can't relate, so I don't have any.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You get dusty as shit sometimes.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm the same as you. It's just like some t-shirt lint and belly button lint.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. There have been, when you're like in a hay mile, it's like, just take the fucking thing off because it's going to get buried up here if you drop it. And like hay bales are getting whipped around and shit. And you're like, if this thing like just gets hit and breaks and falls, it could like drop 20 feet straight down this fucking haystack. Yeah.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to go put this in the truck.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): But

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no, I totally get not winning a red dot because of that. But air compressor is your friend. And then once a month, take it apart and just make sure none of the shit's got inside of it and gumming it up.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, you know, honestly, if I was in that situation, I probably would just go iron sights. Like I love shooting red dots, but I also fucking love iron sights. It's where I started. In fact, The majority of any capabilities I have with a pistol were learned and crafted on iron sights. And red dots have just been a thing that I

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): been into for the last, you know, five or six years.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I would just do that. I would make sure I had night vision sights on them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think that would be overall ideal.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you agree, Nick?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Do you concur? I concur.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And Jeremy concurs? I concur. We all concur.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Doctor? Doctor?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you can get those at nightvision.com. Coupon code WLS is life.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): How much dust would you need to get on a tritium front sight to be like not able to see it?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a good question. But, you know, also at the same time,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): still iron sights.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): even if they were all dust and you couldn't see it,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fine. It doesn't matter. Unless they're just like covered in hay and llama shit.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, unless it's so dusty

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's... Building like a pyramid.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the whole top of your slide is just a sand dune.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's blowing back and forth.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Lenny DW said a $1 rant and said, Aaron Drew is gay for Dusky. Okay. Nick, next question. Okay.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Nick (reference, not reviewed): one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Nick (reference, not reviewed): from The Obvious James.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He

Nick (reference, not reviewed): says, Hello, gentlemen. I need help deciding what my next gun purchase should be. I wanted everyone's opinion based on what I currently have.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Two

Nick (reference, not reviewed): AR-556 builds, a 10.5 and 16,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): semi-auto competition shotgun, two striker-fired pistols, a .509T

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a PMM comp,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a G43X.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was thinking about another AR-556 build in 13.9 or 14.5 inches to round out the ARs, or thought a .300 Blackout or .338 ARC build would be cool.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what

Nick (reference, not reviewed): about ruler delayed 9mm? What is a decent one that is more budget-friendly, under or around $1,000? Or what about a bolt action in 6.5 Creedmoor? Any suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All of those sound like great options.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. First

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of all, you can get MP5 clones for about a grand. I've seen Deal Bros posted several this week.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if you don't know what Deal Bro is, we send out email every day at about 6.45 p.m. with all the deals from the day, as well as a website, pew.deals, P-E-W.deals. You can see all the most current and up-to-date deals that we found there every single day and signed up for the email. I think it's handy to have the email because like I'll be, you know, either sitting down, chilling, decompressing from the day, get the deal bro email and just kind of look through and see if there's anything I can't live without. Or, you know, if I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): looking for something specific, it's often in there,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): including

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a bunch of different MP5 clones for under a G.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): getting back to the question, like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of that sounds fucking great.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): would go bolt gun or roller delayed 9mm out of those because you already have. A short and a not short AR.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah, I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): agree.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Even Foxtrot Mike ISU 9 Foldy Boy. Not roller delay, but

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): good, interesting recoil impulse that I think you'd really like.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's under a G.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Quite a bit, quite a ways under a G, by the way. And 338 Arc is pretty fun. I haven't shot it enough to like really have a super strong opinion on it, but like. What I've shot, it seems pretty great.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what about a bolt-action 6.5 Creedmoor that's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): under

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): or around $1,000?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sorry, you broke up for me.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about a bolt-action N6.5 that's under or about $1,000?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Man,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't know. What's in the $1,000 range these days? Or under what? You could get a Tika, right?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think so.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): For a grand?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think the Bergaras are... Right around a grand.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a little over.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I mean, they make Ruger American in 6.5 Creedmoor.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): True. I was going to say Ruger Precision, but...

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Ruger American.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And that'd

Nick (reference, not reviewed): be probably less than the other options and leave you some room for glass and stuff, too.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): for sure.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then... What was the other part of it? Let's see.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Two-striker five. 338 arc AR, you could definitely put one together.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think the barrel, when I got my barrel, was about 350.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then, I mean, all you need for a 338 arc is a barrel and a bolt

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): everything else is common.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let us know if you need further or if you have further thoughts on that. Question from Brent B.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hello,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm looking to get a light for my duty pistol. M&P 2.09 millimeter, 4.25 inch barrel, because I know Jeremy will ask. What are your recommendations? I don't plan on using it as much as a flashlight, more like a quick target ID. This is also my pistol I plan on carrying in Minecraft while doing the electric boogaloo on the dance floor. Thanks, y'all.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Streamlight.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Streamlight, TLR.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): TLR1HL.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, this is a consecutive Or the

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): TLR1XHLX.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): TLR7 is what I would recommend. Wait, hold on. Didn't he say it was a shield?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No. MFP 2.0.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, yeah. TLR1. TLR1HL. TLR1HL or TLR1HLX. Sorry. My brain added,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): some odd fucking reason, shield.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thoughts?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I agree. Or, yeah, the TLR7HLX or whatever would also be a good option.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, that is literally my go-to.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I have Surefire X300 turbos and the battery compartment. Literally, the little arms that swing off the little hinge have broken twice for no reason. And it's not even a carry every day. It's a, you know, shoot it once or twice a month. And yeah, it's broken multiple times. Just really pisses me off. I can't recommend it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): too bad. They have taken care of it. Each time. And each time they tell me this will be the last time we're taking care of it. But every time they... We do it.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): But here we are, motherfucker.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm like, okay, well, what if I didn't have to do this every six months? That would be highly preferable. It's not like I live.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do live in a very dry place and it has cracked off and not even taking it out and replacing the battery. Like I'll just go to replace the battery and they're broken off already.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't understand exactly what that's about. Two different guns too, by the way.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Kind of wild.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. It's really quite annoying.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy, next question.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Question from Kyle R. Recently printed a Ghostbolt 2.0 upper with Sunlue PLA

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): plus 2

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): .0. I don't know what any of that means.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): finished it off with a 10-inch 300 blackout barrel. It works amazingly, but my tism is tingling. Consider trying out another N338 ARC, but Shawn refuses to release his review video on it. I think I'm picking up a barrel and bolt from Faxon 9-inch for 12.5 for running subs only.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a little concerned with moving up to high chamber pressures in the strength of PLA+. Should I stop being a little bitch and send it? Is 338 ARC dying off already, and should I find a different caliber?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hmm.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a really good question.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I haven't shot as much 338R as I need to and as I want to.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't really hear much about it anymore, but I don't know if that's just because I haven't been paying as much attention. Nick, how about you?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I haven't been seeing a whole lot of stuff either. I really want it to

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a thing, but

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't actually see a whole lot.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I agree.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What he said, Jeremy, was the ghost. Ghost Bolt 2.0

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a 3D printed

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that is on the screen now.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 3D printed upper, 3D printed lower.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, that'll break.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, this is still in beta, but these dudes shoot the shit out of these things and they do pretty good. Will it break, excuse me, eventually? Yeah, probably. But can you get a lot of fun out of it before? Yeah. And then you just fucking print a new one. Who cares?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Gun

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): parts will be disposable at some point,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is kind of awesome.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's pretty cool.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know much about this model. I don't think I've seen that much, but it looks

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): interesting.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the bolt... Wait, hold on. Charging handle is now connected to the bolt.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Is...

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there's no way the carrier is 3D printed, right?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think so.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): looking right now, looking at the plans. No, there's no way. Bolt carrier left,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bolt

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): carrier right.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyone

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in the chat know?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nope,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): doesn't look like it. Yeah, bolt carrier left and right are two parts in the plans. Barrel nut,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): grip.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hmm.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now I'm a lot more curious.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't know.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): upper definitely is.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I think

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is a 3D printed carrier.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now I'm really, really interested.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. I mean,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I guess if the bolt is not, like if the bolt's legit,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): locking into the barrel extension.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): apologize, guys. I accidentally went to FedCAD.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have now gone to GunCAD Index.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there we go. Much better.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I apologize to anyone that I triggered having that website up. Friends, Dylan, Friends, FedCAD.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what I'm trying to say, just so it doesn't get lost in my joke, is don't use DefCAD.com ever.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Why?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): There's a whole lot of reasons. Mostly religious. Like, I don't believe.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): lot of

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking nerd shit, Jeremy. Don't worry about it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Just punch people named Cody if you can.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): My best friend Cody was here helping me build a sugar shack yesterday, so I will not do that. No, you shouldn't.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's my fault. You're a bitch.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is

Nick (reference, not reviewed): he

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sugar?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): You and your sugar.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Sugar, sugar.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, the Ghostbult 2

Nick (reference, not reviewed): .0. Cody's, Jeremy's, sugar boy.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm very interested in this now. So

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we'll

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): look it up. But yeah, don't be a bitch. 338 arc. What's the worst thing? What's the worst that could happen? Like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking hands fall off, blow off.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just

Nick (reference, not reviewed): have somebody else do it. Yeah. God. You print it. You have somebody else shoot it. You check it over.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, that's what all these designers do that upload their 3D models. They put it into beta. All the fucking nerds go out, print it, blow themselves up. They let them, you know, when they get out of the hospital, they let the designer know what happened. The designer makes changes and then they send out a new batch of transcripts to see what happens.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Sounds reasonable.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anyway, yeah, Kyle, fucking send it, bruh. Cause I'm very curious and I'm sure the designer would love to know how your hands fare.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also being a little bit sarcastic. So all you fucking weird autistic dudes, like calm down. It's going to be okay.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Shit. Let's fuck this pig.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let's see. Cody thought she was 18, says Rimfire Radio.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dr. Scared Guy says probably a Fed opt to get Cody, but still. Rimfire Radio I know is brother-in-law.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cool.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me turn off my...

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): chat is being censored by my plug-in today.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, yeah. Well, that will do... Hey, Midwest Industries, by the way, I don't know if you know, but they have started selling their MLOC. Handguards for the Springfield Kuna.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Kuna

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Matata.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Kuna

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Matata.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): look real good.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would like to

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): share

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this. me just make sure there's no pricing. And add to screen. Boom.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): look how nice that looks.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to. Fucking Jeremy's pumped tonight. I like this.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, if you have some Springfield Kunas and you're trying to fucking get down with it, you can go check these out. MidwestIndustriesInc.com. Coupon code WLS is life. So

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): go

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): check that out if you're down for it. Dusky Econ finally showed up. $2 rumble rant. Censor this. $22.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know, that's what he do.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Nick (reference, not reviewed): does appear

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): this thing uses a 3D printed bolt carrier.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's wild.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm intrigued, a little sweaty, and a tiny bit scared.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know about you, but I came. I'm going to print this.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I think I am going to as well

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Minecraft.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, now it is time to talk about some of the gun industry news.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Reminds me of Linkin Park.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no, it reminds me of

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): crawling

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): in my skin. That's what it reminds me of. Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I agree.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Loadstar adds red, green, and gold dot options to the LNK9. Now, if you have forgotten, Loadstar is the smart gun. And it comes with three different optics configurations, green, red, or gold. Let me share this on the screen real quick.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Nick (reference, not reviewed): isn't the same one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): we've seen, right?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, no, that's the BioFire. Oh,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): BioFire.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): This is a different one.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, like, cool. I don't give a fuck about smart guns. Maybe somebody does. That person is not me. But yeah, they now have different red dots available or different colored dots available.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You're a colored guy.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, definitely. Hey, let me ask you this.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Do you guys have ballistic helmets?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, no. Yes, I do.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay. Have

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you worn yours for like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): six,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seven hours at a time?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 23.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 23 hours. So your shit gets kind of... Like your neck gets kind of tired.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, you know, it's a bit of extra weight on your head. Well, Team Wendy has introduced their Exfil Endurance Ballistic Helmet engineered to reduce the burden of extended wear. So it's a lightweight ballistic helmet made out of the UHM WPE. Only weighs 2.29 pounds. Like I'm pretty sure my night vision weighs 2.29 pounds and my helmet an extra six, maybe seven pounds. Because, you know, I have like the counterweight lead weights on the back

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to counteract the weight of the night vision in the front. And

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so I think this is very cool.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is definitely a thing that I'm interested in. It is NIJ level 3A. Helmet shows back face deformation of less than 25.4 millimeter at all locations when tested with 9 millimeter FMJ. And yeah, I'm... Pretty stoked about it overall. So I was looking for the price. didn't actually see that anywhere.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sure it'll be expensive.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Your

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): face is a price.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): price is your

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): soul.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Your mom

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a price.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. X-Fill. Oh, fuck. Hold on. X-Fill Ballistic. Here we go.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Looks

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like that shit's getting... Oh, sorry. Looks like it don't cost. Shop now. Oh, shit. That's not bad. $1,585?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sounds about right.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that a lot? Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, definitely not in my price range, but

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yours is a little higher than mine.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, man. You got to get the old five-finger discount. It's not.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let me just check real quick and see if Savage put this in his new section because I don't want to steal his stories. I want you to. No, I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I might.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I have an old helmet from the Marine Corps.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, so you know exactly what I'm talking about. Heavy as shit.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay, he

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): does not. And when your buddies turtle fuck you, that sucks.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I don't

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what that means.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, it's when somebody's wearing a helmet and you take your helmet off and you go, turtle fuck, whack, and fucking just slam them on the head with your helmet, right with your helmet, like two turtle shells.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't like that.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. Turtle fucking everybody goes. Fucking somebody gets whacked on.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): probably really good for the helmets, too.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no, it's horrible. Banging

Nick (reference, not reviewed): safety equipment together is always great.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, but you get to turtle fuck your friends.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, that's positive, at least.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it's a hoot.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nick F says, didn't Team Wendy get excommunicadoed a couple years ago? Yeah, I think some people that work there or owned it donated to Hillary Clinton or something.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know exactly what happened, but.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Who knows? Next story. Smith & Wesson acquires Savage Arms. Okay. What do you guys think about this?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): At

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): least it's an American company, right? It is. That's about how I feel too.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. So $160 million cash and stock transaction brings together two historic American gun makers. Everything from concealed carry handguns and AR-15s to bolt action hunting rifles. Rim fires firearms and shotguns.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): significantly expand Smith & Wesson's presence in the hunting and precision rifle markets while creating what the company describes as leading American firearms manufacturer, like you guys mentioned. And I mean, I would like it if there were just more gun companies and not less gun companies.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think that Smith & Wesson, like overall, has been

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): positive.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm not. I'm not going to shit on them. They've done nothing. I'm kind of like, oh, I hope they bring back the Model 99.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): with their lever action kick they got going. Bring back the Savage 99. Beef the action up a little bit so we can have some cool shit.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anyway,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think it's a cool thing overall.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Anyways.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I would be happier if they stayed separately, but that has my, you know. Feelings and emotions have no import in the story. They did what they thought was healthy and good. And

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me ask you this.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you think that it's a hedge against further gun control in the U.S.? Maybe if the conservatives don't take the presidency in two years?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): No. think that there is a hole in Smith & Wesson's product lineup

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that Savage

Nick (reference, not reviewed): fits really, really nicely.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think that it makes a lot of sense.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't know, I guess maybe they could be a little bit, but I suspect it's mainly like long-term.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): just like we don't have this stuff. They don't have, Savage doesn't really have what Smith & Wesson has. So,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's not like they're competitors. True. Savage has never made a decent handgun in 100 years.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Have they?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Savage made one handgun in like 1901 or 1906 or something like that. You can look it up.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's funny.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's an old, if I'm trying,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it the Mossberg? I think it was Savage. Savage made

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one. Yeah,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the Savage made one, right?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): And then, yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then they've made,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was for like the 1911 trials, I think.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Sounds like something that the Nazis did.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and now they have a 1911, apparently.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but are they making it or are

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they? I don't fucking

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know. I'm literally just finding out that it exists.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't know it exists. Hold on. Let me look this shit up. Savage Arms,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): double

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): stack 1911.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they've got a little

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): polymer

Nick (reference, not reviewed): -framed, striker-fired 9mm, too.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): God, they have all kinds of 1911s.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I had no idea.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is very interesting.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): When

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think Savage, I don't ever think handguns.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just

Nick (reference, not reviewed): never looked.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they've got 1911s and the Stance XR. Okay, I do remember hearing about this. My God, it is ugly. Look at this thing.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let me see.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's a weird looking little thing, but they do make it in Massachusetts.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Nick (reference, not reviewed): looks an awful lot like a shield.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Nick (reference, not reviewed): looks an awful lot like an XDM.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): like if somebody,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): if somebody took a shield

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): took

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it into a machine shop and did all the stuff to it to make it look like an XDM.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's what, yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree. Sightmark has released the Latitude XD LRF 10x42 binoculars.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 10x42 is what my Vortex Fury HD 5000s are. Now these, they will deliver instant precise distance readings up to 3,280 yards

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): reflective targets and 2,187 yards on non-reflective targets. Full-time 10x magnification, 42mm objective lens,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): extra ED glass.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Looks

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): pretty cool.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): press release doesn't list a price, but let me see if I can find it here.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Europe

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): price.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on their website looking. Products. All products. Let me just look for binoculars. Binoculars.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): said they released it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Ah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): here we go. The LRF, $800.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Now,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): love my Vortex.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I did range a building out at 2,800 yards over the weekend.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): these are like literally half the price.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I wonder how these compare

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to

Nick (reference, not reviewed): other like budget. Well, I say budget, but this is budget for laser range finding binoculars. I wonder how these compare to the other budget options. Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): just,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think that this is the ideal setup personally. Like huge field of view, like 10X with clean, clear glass lets you see, you know, basically as far as you can. So I really like it. I would be interested to check some.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Assuming that it is like, you know, that they are like very clear and not.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A

Nick (reference, not reviewed): lot of them have a blue tint,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is weird.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm not sure why that is. I'm sure that there's a reason for it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Not a fan of the blue tint that a lot of them have.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's one of the treatments. It's like either anti-fog or one of the other things that they do to the glass.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's why all the red dots have different...

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, like red dots have that orangish yellow

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): front

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lens, that coating, but green dots have a different coating. And since they're going to superimpose the

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): distance,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they're going to overlay it. They probably have to reflect that off the lens, so they have to have some kind of treatment. I think that's what the tents are.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let's see, guys. Oh, Jeremy, this story's for you.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Bear

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Creek Arsenal launches the

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Bear.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Listen to me. They have the Bear Bolt Pro Series.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they're making pipe bombs now?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They're making bolt action rifles, Jeremy.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Gross.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Pro Series, Jeremy.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'll bet you that thing is grittier than

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the beach at the ocean.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hmm. Okay, Anakin.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Huh?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anakin, he hates sand.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Your hero, Mannequin Skywalker.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Not

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my hero. He's a bitch. Mannequin. Well, Jeremy,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know that you're already pretty stoked, but let me fucking pump

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): up another notch here for you. Cool. I'm not listening anymore.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Releases 27 October.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tomorrow, Jeremy.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't care.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking go stand in line, buddy. Get your tent ready.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Should we call ice on the factory again?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean again?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do mean? Ice raided their fucking manufacturing plant like 10 years ago. know. Like all of their workers.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I know this, but the way you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): phrased

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that was, should we call ice on them again?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, so ice goes there again. Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it sounded to me like you implied that you called them the first time.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not saying anything.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All I'm saying, Jeremy, is based.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): These would probably be like, I don't know, $7 or whatever.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't really know.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Seven dollars.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Down to my last three dollars.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, fuck. Tristar Arms.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hold

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on one second. Yeah. Tristar Arms has released.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): comes to us from Pew Report. Tristar Arms introduces their all new Viper G3 semi-automatic shotgun.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): me see.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is the.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, my.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hold

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on a second.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Look

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): at this fucking screen.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Look

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): at your fucking screen.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I got to look at this bullshit before I can even go into the website.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Fuck you. Mandatory. Cannot be deselected. Necessary cookies help make a website usable by enabling basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas. Okay. I can't deny. I can't. Wait. Deny. Are you over 18? Yes. Whew. Okay.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all that was so drama filled that I forgot what the fuck I was looking for. Viper. So I'm to go to search. Let me turn off prices here. Viper.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Viper G2. Here it is. Found it. Okay. What do you think, Jeremy? Are these beautiful?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Does

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this get your fucking blood pumping? No.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Okay.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Nick? The thrill is gone.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. How about you,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Nothing gets his blood pumping anymore.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): What's the price on these? Do we know? Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Like

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what the range is?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): If you're looking at the wood model. Goes all the way, depending on what gauge you want, but a 12 gauge is 869.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So these are probably shittier made CZs?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, probably,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah. They're just not CZ branded Turkish shotguns with probably less quality control?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Probably. The black furniture one is 769.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): by the way,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): by

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the way,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): happen to... Look over at the chat and Hellraiser sent a $2 rumble rant

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): said, Shawn has a weak neck. Like, goddamn, that is a very specific fucking insult. I know it has to do with the helmet conversation, but like, goddamn.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): You look like you have a tiny little bitch

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): feet.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it fucking kind of hurt my feelings a little bit. Like, my neck's strong.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Ow. Let me see if Savage has this one.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Trump. Dun, dun, dun.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jesus

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Christ, he has a lot of stories tonight.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he does not have this story, so I will go ahead and cover it. Trump DOJ enables gun dealers to use NICS for employee firearm possession checks. The Department of Justice under the Trump administration has updated policy to allow federal firearms licensees to run NICS background checks on their own perspective.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jeremy, this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is fucking awesome, right?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): before you hire somebody, can run them through Nix just to make sure that they're not a disallowed person.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Correct.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, like that's great. The fact that you couldn't do this is kind of insane, honestly. So I think

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): good. Yeah, dude, I remember they told us that like straight up when I first got my FFL.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you couldn't do it, right?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. They were like, don't use this as a background check system at all.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Which is, but you know, now I think they just have so much less traffic going through that, well, it's Nick's. Nevermind. They probably have the exact same amount or more going through.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anyway, it is another win for our current DOJ. Let me just see. I don't give a fuck about that.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Here's one. Hornady's new tech puts power to open in the palm of your hand, literally. Now you may be thinking to yourself, what the fuck does that headline mean?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I agree.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hornady has now released a new gun safe called the Vexus Mobilis. And it removes,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sorry,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it pairs patent-pending vein-scanning biometric technology with the modular Move Anywhere design. It's made the Mobilis line a favorite for homes and offices. They can't fit a traditional welded safe through the door. So basically uses IR light. Captures more than 2.5 million data points per scan to verify identity in under half a second. A vein pattern can't be lifted like a fingerprint, can't be photographed, and it cannot be copied.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it stays stable through adulthood, so the system does not need to be retrained.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do you think of this?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean, if it works and it's faster than a thumbprint

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): more reliable, then I guess that's cool.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Is

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it any scarier than the thumbprint?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, I don't think so. I'm going to say half a second is a fucking eternity. Like 500 milliseconds? That is so long. So I don't know. I don't know how I feel about this.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't like biometric safes in the first place.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just, I would be curious, you know, what distance does it have to be? Like, do you have to hold it a specific distance? Is there a range of inches in which you need to be? Would a bloody hand stop you from accessing it?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't know. Anyway, that's out there if that's something you're interested in. Go peep that. And if you're not interested in that, well, good for you. I like it. I like that you don't like it. Let's see. Federal Premium Ammunition Mobile App. Yeah, this comes from

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Federal.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Never miss again with the improved ballistic AE app by Federal. We talked about this recently, right?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Mm-hmm. I think so.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ballistic AE, I have ballistic AE. I don't really use it anymore.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was using my Hornady ballistic Doppler app this today, trying to figure out why a guy's,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 6

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): .5 Creedmoor with a 30 MLA rail and a Leopold Mark IV scope. All the way down. And he could not get on. He could not get. And he was still six inches high. The bullseye had 25 yards.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Interesting.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And I was like, I just wonder if the Leopold just doesn't have a lot of down elevation. It's just made to go all up.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That should be on the spec sheet. I didn't have any of that. I wasn't.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had shit to do.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like, huh, can't find out there. Get the fuck out of here.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Savage just joined.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You're

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not on this show, Savage.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh, fuck. Wrong one. Sorry.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, you don't have to leave. can stay.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Get the fuck

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): out

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of here. We're almost done. We're almost done. So, you know what? I'm going to download this app because I thought that I had this one and I think I have used it, but I don't have it anymore. So, I'm going to go to the App Store.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to install my 17th Bullistic app. By the way, I was using the Hornady Ford Off over the weekend as well. Or I guess late last week. I like it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Mm-hmm.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking condescending buttfucker.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): have a... I have a handful of different ones that I'm messing with right now. Yeah. Trying to decide.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I trust applied ballistics the most. But there are other things that I want to be able to do that applied ballistics won't let me. Like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): put

Nick (reference, not reviewed): an app on my watch.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually going to write an app for my watch for the Garmin. Yeah. It's on my list of projects.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like I just want something that I can literally. Go to like Pew Locker and go into my rifle and like send it to my Garmin. Like that would be fucking tight. None of that exists right now, but that is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a very

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): early mention of something that I have planned for Pew Locker.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): That would be so amazing.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, just the ability to store your dope for a rifle and literally be able to scan a fucking QR code and go right to it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then... Pull it up on your watch.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Like the

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): watch

Nick (reference, not reviewed): stuff.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The watch stuff would be separate and different, but like just being able to store dope cards would be sick in my opinion.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): No, this is all one thing.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I mean,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wouldn't be hard.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hardest part of anything is getting it approved in the app stores.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): could be hard. Yeah. Well, for you, maybe.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, I'm hard right now.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The

Nick (reference, not reviewed): hardest part for me is learning to read.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know about you.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Since Savage got here, I've been very, very hard.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yay.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's true. All right. Oh, and then I do have one last story. Duria Arms introduces the O-Bone,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): its

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): first suppressor.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): O

Nick (reference, not reviewed): -Bone.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Look

Nick (reference, not reviewed): at this.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Does

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it sound like an O-Bone?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had an idea for a double barrel suppressor.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Tell

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me more.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Where if you... You thread one choke, say, into the bottom, and it goes really close to the edge of the barrel, right? But it's got like a shape so that when you thread the other one over top of it, it would spin, spin, spin, spin, spin. And then on the last one, it would go and lock onto that bottom thing in the choke tube. But the problem is it would have to be like gun barrel specific because.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you'd have to overboard a lot to give you like a range of cans that it would work on. Because otherwise it would be, you know, the holes have to be like properly.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Unless you made some sort of adjustment in the middle where it was actually two separate pieces. But you could like,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. seems

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): more

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dangerous. I

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think it would require a custom.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): You know what would be sweet? Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is

Nick (reference, not reviewed): if you had those chamber inserts that'll let you shoot like.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, 44 mag or whatever out of your break action 12 gauge. I have those.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but if you had those that had a baffle stack on the end of them. And the baffle stack had some way of like some sort of nut or something. So it stuck out the end of the muzzle and then you'd like thread something on to kind of seal up the end of it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): against

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the muzzle.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then you'd have a very long, very narrow

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): suppressor.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): It'd be pretty sweet.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): There is a, there's a company out there that makes, um, 20, 18 and 24 inch barrel inserts for 12 gauge that are 45, 70.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): damn.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. And I really want to make a double rifle.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): You've talked about

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): those. I know. I still want to do it. Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Uh, real quick. The O bone is a 22 can five and a quarter inches long weighs four ounces costs.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Padded twin carry handle case that costs $30 on its own. So I guess that means this is like $170 for the can plus the $30 for the case. Looks like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): real

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bad. Like not a whole lot of

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thought

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): went into. Yeah, it's very basic, but user serviceable. You can literally twist the end caps off, get access to all the baffles, replace them. I mean, you know what? Good for you guys.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): engineered and built. Yeah. Jacksonville, Florida, backed by their limited lifetime warranty.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to say win.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that's a pretty easy win.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I thought you meant win like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): WH. Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no, no, no.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Not WI. No, it's available

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, if this is... I mean, as long as the thing works well, 200 bucks doesn't seem terrible for a 22 can.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Nick (reference, not reviewed): looks like much like a lot of bus built stuff.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They

Nick (reference, not reviewed): spared every expense and tried to make it as cheap as possible.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): And

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I mean, it's a functional 22 suppressor for $200. For sure, man.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Well, that's going to do it for this episode. Don't forget. Second call defense. Shawn Maloney is going to join us next week and obviously talk about, you know, a lot of stuff then, you know, what they're up to, what's been going down. And

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wait until it's too late. Like crazy times happen. You know, the dude in Idaho never thought that going, you know, that that day he would be exchanging gunfire at an In-N-Out. The dude in Idaho,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no, I'm sorry, Oregon, Bend, Oregon. Never thought that he would be crawling through broken glass into a school to kill a shooter. Like, we never know what's going to happen in our lives. Never, ever. And having protection after you pull the trigger, I think, is important. We like shooting.com slash SCD. Join Gun Owners of America. Still out there kicking ass and not taking a ton of money from rare greed firearms like some other

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gun

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): rights organizations. So yeah, gunowners.org slash WLS. Help them and support the fight. And speaking of the fight, we want you here to fight with us. So if you're having a rough time and you just maybe need someone to talk to, you can text or call the suicide prevention line by dialing 988 from your phone and then send on your mobile phone. And seriously, we want all the good people here fighting against the woke tards.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's going to do it. Savage. What do we always say at the end of every show?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Always take

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): peaceful

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): slavery over dangerous freedom.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wait. No, the other way. The other way. Other way. Other way.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like, is he doing a bit? You got it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Nick (reference, not reviewed): got it the first time.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. As Savage said, always choose peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom. Goodbye.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Plot guy Dave in the chat. Wow. Wow.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fuck. haven't.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): credits are about to end and I haven't stopped anything. Hold on.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I thought that was

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a joke,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right?

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm sure.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, everyone just thinks you're a fucking commie now.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Well, nothing has

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): changed.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Exactly. The earth is exactly as it was and has always been.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This podcast has been a production of the Firearms Radio

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Network.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): For more, visit firearmsradio.net.