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Savage (manual, reviewed): you're sure taking out the chickens is a euphemism for taking a shit. Anyways, this episode of We Like Shooting is brought to you by Foxtrot Mike. Gideon Optics, Blue Alpha, Medical Gear,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Outfitters. Did you say Fox Chalk?
Savage (manual, reviewed): Maybe I did. Fox Trot, Mike. You want to start over? Trot. Sure. This episode of We Like Shooting is brought to you by Fox Trot, Mike, Gideon Optics, Blue Alpha, Medical Gear, Outfitters, Night, Fishin', Bowers Group, Second Call, Defense.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a little angry at the way you said all that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shawn, Aaron, and Jeremy, too. Savage and Nick bringing it to you. Talking guns and having fun. We like shooting.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Welcome
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to We Like Shooting, episode 685. We are so stoked to be here with you tonight. We got the cast that you crave. Jeremy Posterik from River's Edge Tactical. We got Savage 1R bringing up the rear. Nick Lunch is... Locking up the chickens. We believe that's a euphemism. We'll discuss it momentarily. My name is Shawn Herrin. Welcome to the Best Gun Podcast that you're listening to on a Monday night. And that is a fact. Jack, I am so stoked to be here. got a lot to talk about tonight. Nick said he's got to go lock up the chickens. We think it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a euphemism. What do you think out there? Text your answers
Shawn (manual, reviewed): to... Hold
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on, I got to look up Nick's number. It is. Fuck, I don't know.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): forgot he blocked me.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That's probably for the best.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Probably for the best. I don't know if it's a euphemism or not. Like we just couldn't tell. He said, I got to go lock up the chickens and then turned his camera off. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't even know Nick had chickens. Savage, did you know Nick had chickens?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): did not know this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Me
Savage (manual, reviewed): either. Me either. And I feel like one of my stories is missing.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well, you have a lot of time now to figure out which one and take notes. Look, if it is. Tell me which one it is. I'll research it. I definitely did make some changes to everything right before the show because, you know.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's not a euphemism.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, it's not. Nick's holding three eggs. Wait, those are testicles.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Wait, these are my testicles.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Did you shit those out of your ass? Goddamn. Nick is a chicken. had eggs
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): shoved up his ass.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's the weirdest thing. They looked oddly clean. So it's surprising in a number of different levels. Anyway, we're here. Savage is queer. And we're just excited to spend the evening with you guys. I think Agent Entropy sent a rumble rant at the end of the thing, saying he was going to be in Noonan, Georgia, where Blue Alpha is, and asked if they had a storefront. And I don't believe that they do, as far
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): as I know. You would have to hit them up just to be 100% sure about that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Bless me. No, seriously, bless me.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Inspiricus, whatever the Latin is. Thank you.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Amen.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think you just exercised a demon.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Spectacles, testicles, wallet, and watch.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): love that. Well, yeah. Like I said, glad to be here. Got a ton to fucking talk about tonight. So I'll tell you what. Outlaw said Shawn's mute button not working. Look, man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): had happened was I panicked and I missed the button.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So, Nick, how many chickens you got?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would say three.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, I actually don't know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wow.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Over
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): here bragging about his chickens.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Don't know how many I have. Hey, he's got so many chickens that he doesn't even know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): At
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one point, there were like 25 of them, something like that. Okay. We've lost a few. He's like, now we've got three.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No, we still have a bunch. have two coops.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): different
Nick (reference, not reviewed): parts of the property. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fair number in each.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Gideon Optic said that you're chicken rich.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Chicken rich.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): went to lock him up and one of the hens doesn't like to lay in the boxes for some reason. She just lays on the floor in the coop.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was like, oh, I guess I'll just grab these.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway. Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they were shockingly clean. Those broody ass hens.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You ever water? Waterglass your eggs?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Waterglass them?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Savage (manual, reviewed): ever waterglassed eggs?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I like I've
Savage (manual, reviewed): heard of this, but I don't. I know what waterglass is, but I don't know why you do that with eggs. That's holding a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): candle
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): up to it to see if it's fertilized. No, that's candling. That's called candling. I thought that's
Savage (manual, reviewed): where you took a candle and shoved it. Never mind. Go on.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, that's the thing you do with your dominatrix to get over the fact that you hate your life.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): What? That's actually why your dad's a pile of ash now.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Oh, there it is.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking waiting for it. Fucking Jeremy. got too close to the curtains.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Savage,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm so sorry that your dad got caught in the sunlight. He was a vampire,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): He is a vampire.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Was. He's now ash.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): He is a vampire.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Anyways, no. You think of water glass like the liquid. Like sealant. No, water glassing an egg is you make a lime water mixture. Use like a filtered water with lime, like pickling lime. L-I-M-E. I forget what the ratio is. It's like a cup of lime to a quart of water or something like that. And you shake it up really good. And then you take the clean eggs that still have the bloom on there. And you put them in the water
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and you submerge them. And then you put them in a jar or a bucket or anything like that. And they will keep that way for like 18 months to two years.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No, because I have never kept eggs for that long.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, we get more eggs that we can eat all summer long. But then the chickens quit laying in the wintertime. So that's how we have eggs in the wintertime that are fresh.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So you put them in the mixture and then when you just take it out, the egg is good?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You pull it out, wash it off, and then use the egg as normal. And you have to leave the bloom on it?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have to leave the bloom on it. So you can't use like. Really shitty chicken eggs. Like if they're dirty, don't use them. Just eat them. But like pick the choice eggs that are clean. I see. And then put them in the lime solution.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was like, I don't want it marinating in a bath of chicken shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you have to. Okay. So what the lime does is when the lime solution, the lime itself like sticks in the pores of the eggs and it doesn't let the bacteria in. It helps. So it just preserves them for a long time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah. Water glassing eggs. If you have, and they keep for, like I said, they keep for a year or two. If I named that, I'd call it water pickling.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's not, there's no pickling. Exactly, because there's no vinegar.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, there is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): vinegar. Right, there's no vinegar.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have pickled eggs as well.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty neat.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, Hug Muffin sent a $1 rumble rant and said, Savage. My son is going to trick or treat as Pyro from Team Fortress 2. So in my mind, he is dressing up as you. Quote, nature finds a way.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm so sorry. Water glass is also sodium silicate like I do with my brass shuck and shells.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this is a different
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): This has to do with eggs, idiot. Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Motherfucker, don't be giving me shit about we like egging. This is shit how you can fucking survive in the goddamn apocalypse. You'll have to pee out of there, Jeremy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Pegging. We like pegging.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Pegging. Pegging. He gets pegged with eggs.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Peg
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): egg.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ever stare at a chicken and think if an egg can fit in there, why can't I?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That timing.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Like I usually don't talk about the same thing for Foxtrot Mike in both shows because they have a lot of stuff. But man, I'm excited. The ISU 9 is out available on their website. I think they've sold out like two separate times and had to restock. So they're like making them furiously as fast as they possibly can. Thank you to all the people who have bought them so far. You guys are killing it with the coupon code. And yeah, this is like it just happened late last week. And yeah, they've just been absolutely doing
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): great. So integrally suppressed upper receiver, nine millimeter, which means that the barrel and the suppressor are kind of the same thing. The suppressor encompasses the entire barrel. It's got a brand new recoil system that didn't exist before he invented it. They are made extremely well. They literally were designed to work with FRSs, which is freaking awesome. You know, shoot fast, eat ass, do whatever you want. I think it's an
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): amazing
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing. And the best part, suppressor, the entire complete upper, all of it is like 500 bucks. But you get a coupon code WLS is life. Takes it down quite a bit. Takes it up like 50 bucks off of it. So it is out there now. FM-products.com. Coupon code WLS is life. Get it before they run. One out again because, you know, there's only so many parts got made like and you guys like people have been ordering the shit out of these.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they're available right now. Don't wait till it's too late. Foxtrot Mike ISU 9.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): question for you guys. Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is the difference between craft paper and virgin craft paper?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): assume craft paper can be made out of reshredded paper that's repressed together and virgin craft paper is from wood pulp, like pure wood pulp would be my guess.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was going to say maybe the virgin craft paper hasn't been fucked yet.
Savage (manual, reviewed): That's where I went immediately.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I did not expect you to say that, Nick. Because I was like in my head thinking up a joke real quick that had something to do with that. And you started off like with a really scientific explanation and then immediately it went there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know. Yeah. Well done. Well done.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Have you seen the movie, not the TV show version, but the movie version of What We Do in the Shadows?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No. I watched one episode of that show and I was like, this is the dumbest, worst thing I've ever seen.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I've never seen the show, so I can't speak to that. But the movie's pretty funny. But there's a part where they're like, so what's the, somebody asks them, like, what's the deal with vampires and versions?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he's like, well, you know, like if you were going to eat a sandwich, you would prefer that someone had not had sex with it first.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Well, it depends on who's going to have sex with it. If my wife did, then maybe I wanted more.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Who
Savage (manual, reviewed): doesn't like a hint of salmon? What?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Talk
Savage (manual, reviewed): about a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ham sandwich.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Heyo.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): boy. Oh, boy. We got tuna salad on the menu. I didn't order mayo on this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Since
Nick (reference, not reviewed): we were already talking about Foxtrot, Mike. Help me, Jesus.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Help me, Oprah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm sorry. I'm sorry for what I've done.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Go ahead, Nick.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Do you want me to just get my gear chat
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): out of the way?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know what? Go ahead. Get your gooch out of the way.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. I was going to talk about this last week, but I'm dumb and I didn't put it in the show notes. Stupid
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): retard.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): anyway, the ISU 9, I finally got out and shot it last weekend. Like I've been saying I was going to do for the last like six months. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was pretty cool.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a lot of fun. I shot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 300 rounds through it. I put the stuff and things. Six-round
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Carl
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in there. Hell yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then it's got the Atreus
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): trigger
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in there that Foxtrot Mike provided. Like Shawn was just talking about, it's integrally suppressed, so the suppressor is built into the barrel. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): would say that it is very comfortable. Like I said
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): before,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think it was on the last show, it's not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): quietest in the world.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's okay because it is very comfortable and very pleasant to shoot in my opinion. Yeah, I've got the Gideon on here, the big boy. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): really like this setup.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): gun is pretty lightweight and handy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I kind of wanted to keep it that way. And I might go to a slightly smaller optic to save some weight to keep it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): small
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and handy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I dig it, man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Nick (reference, not reviewed): couple of the, well, let's start with some of my gripes. Do it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): There is not a lot of room on the handguard. Like between the handguard and the barrel has a shield around it. It is like high temp silicone, I think, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): there's not a lot of space between that and the handguard, which he warned us about.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like the outer diameter of the suppressor is very, very close to the inner
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): diameter.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So there isn't much clearance for T-nuts on M-Lock stuff. So I believe, Shawn, you confirmed that the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): quick
Nick (reference, not reviewed): detach ones from KDG will work. But I have not had luck with normal ones. So I bought a tiger claw to throw on here and have not been able to attach it. I was thinking about maybe taking the handguard off, putting it on and then seeing if I could get it to like squish in there a little bit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): could also grind like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): grind
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): some of the Mlock nut off.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah, I could do that, too. And there might be like some low profile ones or something I could find.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): too.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I haven't. Honestly, I haven't tried that much.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, so I wouldn't mind. I assume that when they designed it, they were trying to work. They said that they wanted to keep the slim handguard. I assume that they were trying to make it work with stuff that they already had
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): buying dyes and stuff for extrusions and whatnot can be kind of expensive.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I assume they're trying to work around what they already had. So, yeah, like not the end of the world, but something to be aware of.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Grind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): them nuts off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I've
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): had
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some
Nick (reference, not reviewed): failure to feeds.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a lot of what I've shot has just been like, I'm going to throw random rounds into this magazine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then see what happens.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm not like super upset about that. They all also happened in the first couple mags mostly.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): other weekend when I was shooting it, I did have a couple of failure to feeds. But I think that was a magazine issue because that magazine later bound up and I had three rounds smashed vertically inside the magazine with the followers stuck below.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm willing to write those ones off. The other ones were with multiple different magazines. And like I said, they were early on within the first few mags that I shot through it. And I didn't like. I didn't lubricate this or like I literally took it out of the box and went outside and shot a couple mags out of it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm also willing to forgive those. Like shoot it a little more, lube it up. And it is lubricated now and it has been doing better.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hinge on it, they sent the Foldy Boy lower
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): since
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm going through my gripes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): The hinge is a little bit loose.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So it just sort of like flops around and then the bolt doesn't fully retain, which isn't an issue when I go to unfold it. There's enough room there that it'll push the bolt back in.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the bolt does kind of like fall out of the back of it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It won't come out, but it does like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gets a little red rocket out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): doesn't fall all the way out. It slides out like an inch and a half, two inches. Yeah. And then, yeah, the hinge. For the buffer tube is a little bit floppy. Which, again, is really not that big of a deal. So I'm not too bothered by it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): feel like all of my complaints are pretty minor.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): With
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the biggest one being the failure to feeds. But again, that has gotten better with lubricant and shooting.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): overall though, man, the recoil impulse is so incredibly nice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like the charging handle up on the forend. That's pretty cool. It still has the T handle in the back. So, I mean, I guess if you didn't like this or it was in the way, could just take it out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): as far as I can tell, I think you'd be fine. But I have not tried because I like it. You can swap it over to the other side if you want to.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a little bit too far back to use as an index point for me. So I usually grab ahead of it. But yeah, the thing is pretty lightweight. The recoil impulse is so good. So I'm pretty sure I've said this before, but shooting it side by side with my MP5, the recoil impulse is pretty comparable. It's not quite as good as the MP5, and it's a slightly different impulse, but the amount of energy coming back into my shoulder feels
Nick (reference, not reviewed): really dang close. However, my MP5 weighs like two pounds more than this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, like that's kind of a.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Kind of makes a difference.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Feeding from Glock mags, of course, like everything feeds from Glock mags these days. And that's cool because I've got a bunch of them and they're cheap.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this thing quite a bit. I've had. Zero interest in AR9s. Direct blowback, unless it's in something really compact, doesn't really interest me that much. Because it just kind of sucks for the most part. Like it's fine. I don't know.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): There's a lot of stuff going on here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like they talked about how soft the recoil system was. And I was like, I'm sure it's an improvement, but it can't be that good. No, it's pretty damn good. It's worth it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Even
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if you're not. Buying one of these, like if you just have an AR-9 and you want to make it shoot nicer, I would be checking out that buffer system. The barrel is ported and everything. So I think we mentioned it last week and I pulled the chrono data.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was shooting a PCC specific load that was advertising like 1200 feet per second, something like that. And I was getting about eight.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So you will,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Nick (reference, not reviewed): far as I can tell, you will stay subsonic, which is pretty cool.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's great.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, because the whole point is that it's integrally suppressed. You want it to be quiet. So if you can just buy whatever ammo and throw it in here and have it be sub, then that's pretty cool. The ambi controls are nice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): are. That's something I always forget to talk about.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it's got an ambi bolt catch, and they did it the right way where you can actually... Lock the bolt open with your index finger on the right side. A lot of like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ambi
Nick (reference, not reviewed): lowers, you can only drop the bolt,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is cool.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Except
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that I want to be able to like lock the bolt back if I'm trying to clear a failure or something.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, you can actually do that with this. It's got giant paddle mag release buttons on either side. That are impossible to miss. They've got a really great checkering texture on them that I like a lot. Even with gloves and stuff, you can grab onto them pretty nice. You can find them, feel them.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like that they're big, but unobtrusive. They never get in the way. They're not sticking out, catching on stuff. They're just really easy to find and manipulate, but also not just in the way ever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I'm pretty happy with the thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one weird issue that I've had is they've got a little retaining pin
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the safety spring is. So instead of the safety spring going down into the grip, mine has a little
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): grub
Nick (reference, not reviewed): screw, shorter spring.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): my grub screw keeps
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): backing
Nick (reference, not reviewed): out.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Really?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then so my safety gets floppy. So I think the last time I had the grip off when I was messing with the trigger, I swapped it for a normal one and just left the screw out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that makes sense.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): But like that's one of those quality of life but not necessary things. Yeah. You know, where it's like really cool that you don't have to mess with the springs when you take the grip off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kind of like it. Mine's Loctited. I don't know if I don't remember if I did it or if they did it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Maybe I should have just Loctited it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Whatever
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is that I did, it seems to be functioning.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the Carl is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): super
Nick (reference, not reviewed): badass.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Carl is so much fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Those
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 300 rounds I like sighted in. I ran some like little transition drills between two targets. And then I did some mag dumps. And I had some other stuff I was shooting and sighting in.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Right as I was finishing up,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): dude I was shooting on Forest Service Land.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a dude showed up and he was like, are you almost done? Like, should I wait? Or are you just getting started? And I was like, oh, I'm just, I was literally shooting my last mag.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he was like, oh, okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so I finished up, got all my stuff packed up. Or I was shooting the last mag that I was planning to shoot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got all packed up.
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): was getting ready to leave, and I looked over, and he and his kid were loading mags at the back of his truck.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was like, yeah, fuck it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So I walked over, and I was like, hey, have you ever shot anything with an integrally suppressed or with a forced reset trigger?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he was like, no, what does that mean? And I was like, come with me. Anyway, so I let them both shoot a couple mags through.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, yeah, they had a pretty good time. Dude, that's awesome. Which is like half the fun of a gun like this, right? Like it's super ridiculous and cool and so much fun. And with the recoil impulse and the Atreus selector in there, it's like so easy to control.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if you are trying to introduce someone
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): fast shooting guns to be like, this is kind of what it's like to shoot a machine gun. Like I think this is a great starter
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is. Quiet,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): low
Nick (reference, not reviewed): recoil, easy to control.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's just so satisfying to shoot.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Totally
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): agree.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So it's pretty unintimidating.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because it's like not hard to control at all. And like when we say the recoil impulse, like we don't mean that it doesn't kick. It doesn't. But really AR-9s just don't. We just mean like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, you know, when you're watching someone, say you're watching a video of a sewing machine. And then they slow it down to half speed and it's just like chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug. And just like everything is like nice and smooth and fluid and everything. Like that's the best way that I can explain the recoil impulse. It's just like really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pleasant
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and like non-jarring.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's very soft. It's not like a sharp. It doesn't feel slow.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): But it doesn't feel like a sharp like jab in the shoulder. It just feels like a. A gentle push. It's very pleasant. It's very nice. And everybody who shot it has commented on how nice it feels. Yeah, same.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hug Muffin asked, the absence of a safety selector spring mean you can't use normal AR grips? No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's a Difrico that I put on mine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah. The safety works like a normal one. It's just the hole is threaded so you can put a shorter spring and a...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Nick (reference, not reviewed): screw in there to hold it in place so that when you take the grip off, that stuff doesn't fall out. stays retained in the lower. But if you want to, you can take those out and just run a normal length spring in there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, it's totally compatible with all normal AR grips. And like Shawn, I also am unoriginal, so I have the die-free.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I saw you had the gray one. was like, nice. Yeah. Nice.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I did a... A gray, die-free, and a B5.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know what that is. The Sopmod or whatever. That's cool. I don't think it's the Sopmod. It's the cheaper one. Love it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I unintentionally put gray
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): furniture
Savage (manual, reviewed): on all my
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 9mm
Savage (manual, reviewed): stuff.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, smart. Because my Mat9 is a gray upper with gray furniture as well.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you have the Mediator XL on yours?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah, I do. And I do really like that optic.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one of the things that I love about this gun is like how light it is. And I've been kind of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thinking
Nick (reference, not reviewed): about putting something a little smaller on just to save a little weight.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I literally, I put the Mediator 2 on a riser on mine and ooh, girl.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I was actually thinking about maybe the Mediator 2.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): absolutely love it. It's staying on there forever. It's perfect for it. Yeah, freaking love it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, man, I'm glad it's working. I'm glad the six-round Carl was good. Is it as fun as I imagine?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think that for a gun like this, that is the perfect setup.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can still do mag dumps pretty fast and just waste ammo and have a good time if you just want to go out and burn through some rounds.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can also shoot like slightly more controlled groups without trying. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then if you really want to like put effort in and tap the trigger, you can still shoot like two, three round or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can shoot like two, three round bursts. I'm sure that there are other people that are faster that could shoot like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, one at a time. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're going to do that, you could also just flip the switch forward.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So much fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): much fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): am
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fan. I love it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's cool. That's awesome, man. Let's see. I got a couple things to talk about. Number one, I've been talking about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): doing some training lately and I did it again this weekend. So I think. What? Yeah, I haven't done it three weeks in a row, but I did the night fire basics like four weeks ago. Then week off, I think. And then I did the defensive rifle one class with. Highlands Defense. All this training has been with Highlands Defense, by the way. And then this weekend, I did the defensive pistol one class with Highlands Defense.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And, you know, like I've talked about it. I don't want to like dwell on it, but my just my skills have slid and fallen and faltered. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not as good of a shooter as I used to be. And it's like crazy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): how does this happen? Like, you know, once I develop the skill, like I should be able to do it forever, right? Yeah. Kind of what I thought maybe, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is not how it works. That's not how it works at all. turns out that if you don't develop the skill and keep the skill developed and constantly practice that skill and do that skill and, you know, like think about it, that you slide very badly. So I talked about the rifle class and how I was just like kind of disappointed in my performance, especially like I used to be a pretty good rifle shooter. And, uh, but you know, at the end of the class, I felt better about it, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): took defensive pistol one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and in
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the rifle class and in the night class, like I had been, I had been shooting my pistol as well, you know, like doing transitions and stuff. If you have a malfunction or, you know, you have a,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know, like, uh, you run out of ammo and then sometimes it's faster to just, uh, put your rifle down and draw your pistol and finish off the drill or finish off the threat as it were. And they moved. So I had been shooting my pistol a little bit. And so I got to the class.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And, you know, thinking,
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we go. Another day of humble pie. just like trying to fucking, trying to improve my skills and get back to where I was. But a couple different things. Class was pretty big. was like, you know, when I say big, I think there was five students. So it was kind of perfect overall. My stepbrother. Shawn Herrin had messaged me the day before and he's like, hey, I'm in Boulder working for a month. Are you free this weekend? And I was like, damn, dude, like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have a class that I'm going to that I can't cancel. But if you're interested, why don't you come shoot the class with me? And so he came down and I set him up with a gun and holster and belt and all that stuff. And we went and shot the class together. So it was a lot of fun. Had a really good time. Now, he has shot his whole life, but like never any organized classes or anything like that. Never taken any tactical classes or anything. And,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, there was we had Jeremy T. Shout out to Jeremy T. A listener came to the class and we had a blast. And then one of one of the assistant instructors for the course took the class as well. And then another dude that was a nice guy as well. We just we had a really good group of students with highly disparate skill levels. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man, it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was awesome. So I started off shooting OK. And then Zach, the instructor, just kept challenging me because, you know, my groups, my groups are good. And he's like, you need to push harder, push harder, do this specific thing, push this specific skill harder and continue to improve. And like I was. Listening and learning and trying to push myself harder. you know, then my groups opened up and then we dialed in some more stuff. And by the end of the day,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was like starting to feel myself again. I was shooting more confidently. I was shooting fast and reasonably accurate. I just finally started to feel like my old self. And, man, it was just such a good day, such a good class. I learned something new in every lesson. I learned something new with every explanation. I learned something new with every exercise. I just can't say enough about the training that Zach is doing with Highlands Defense. Like it has been
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fantastic. So I'm going to keep taking classes. Like I think I have November 14th. I've got a precision rifle basics class. Defensive pistol two is in December. And I think he mentioned maybe having a red dot class. Shooting pistol red dots at some point. I didn't see that one on the calendar yet, but the other two are there. And yeah, I can't speak highly enough about him. So here's what I want to do. Like, I want to challenge listeners in Colorado
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): or surrounding areas. Like, man, go to highlandsdefense.com. Check out the calendar. If you want to shoot a class, like I will go to the class with you as long as I'm in town and, you know, it's not Angel's birthday or something. Like, let's do this. Let's all get better. And if you're not around Colorado and you can't plan a trip out or something like that, like go find some training. Like I'm speaking from experience when I say that, holy shit, it goes away so fast. But you can get it back in a day.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, you can get it back between the hours of 930 and 430 on a Saturday or a Sunday. Like it is so rewarding. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ego
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shattering. But I think that's a good thing. I don't say that as a negative. I say it as a good thing. Like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): definitely had to swallow my pride, but I'm really starting to feel it again. I'm really starting to shoot well again. And at the end of Saturday, I was just so fucking stoked because like at the end, there's like two final exercises where you run through and you've got barricades and you're shooting around barricades.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They put shirts on the targets, which is always a mindfuck. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they're calling like colors of shirts. And there's also steel plates. And sometimes there's a red shirt and a red steel plate. And you just like you're making a bunch of mental errors. And, you know, you're trying to stay out of the view of everything else. And it's just such a really good, intense way to get task overloaded in a safe way. So that you can figure out how you respond to it and figure out how to better respond to it. And by the second exercise that we ran through at the end of the day, like I wouldn't say mine was perfect
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because it absolutely wasn't. But I really felt like Shawn of two years ago in my shooting. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was very excited about it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's awesome. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that feeling. My abilities have definitely degraded. I have not shot as much since I've moved back here and I have only taken, I think, one class.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I definitely feel it. So I'm glad to hear that that is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): working
Nick (reference, not reviewed): out and that you're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): getting
Nick (reference, not reviewed): to...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I know how frustrating that feeling
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is. Dude, it's crushing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): every
Nick (reference, not reviewed): time I shoot a pistol,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): shoot and then I go, yeah, I should be better than this. I'm capable of better than this. And then I just get like pissed off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so I've been I have been making an effort to use Ace more.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't have a whole lot of time to like actually go shoot at the at the moment. Hopefully that'll get better before too long. So I've been making like a real effort to use Ace like once or twice a week. Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm also fortunate enough to have a job where I can dry fire.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's so important.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I've been dry firing at work in the mornings,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): getting
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in like 15 or 20 minutes a day here and there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and on the Ace thing, we actually have a pretty solid We Like Shooting crew. I meant to talk about this last week when you were talking about the training stuff. Yeah, yeah. And I forgot to,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but... We
Nick (reference, not reviewed): actually have a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Like Shooting group on Ace, the Ace VR, XR, whatever they call it. So if you have Ace or looking at getting Ace and you're not part of the We Like Shooting group on there, go join it. And then when I get on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's pretty like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): depending on my work schedule and stuff, it's pretty sporadic. So I can't. Be like, yeah, I'm going to be on on these days at these times. But when I get on, I've been trying to jump into the group range. Nice. So yeah, if you listen to the show
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're not in that group, join that group. And if you are in that group and you get on, check the group range because I might be in there. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): come hang out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): need to do that too. I need to use my ace more. Man, I just like fell off. You get busy and then you're like, oh, go do that next week.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know the crazy thing is I'm still like doing reviews of guns and stuff. So like I'm going to the range once or twice a week, but I'm just, you know, I'm like trying to get to 800 rounds on every gun. So it's, you know, like honestly, a video where you're mag dumping it onto steel as fast as you possibly can is like visually interesting. A video where I'm, you know, either setting a part-time on a timer, Or having my phone call out threat and then engaging a target one to five
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): times until the target is no longer a threat. That's way less interesting. So I find myself dumping a lot of ammunition uselessly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not gaining anything out of it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean, let's be fair. Like just doing mag dumps is really satisfying and fun too.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is. when you can't just like mag dump into a plate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is. It is. But you know, like I'll go and I'll shoot, you know. 300 rounds through four separate guns, 300 rounds each. And like by the end, my finger is tired from mag dumping into steel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, so I'm shooting a lot of ammunition, but not getting any. It's helpful
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you have a gun where you can just hold the trigger down and it shoots all of them. It
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): helpful. It is.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Your finger gets way less heavy that way.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it is. It is very useful. So I highly recommend Highlands Defense, highlandsdefense.com. He has been putting a bunch of classes on the schedule lately, which, man, I'm just so thankful for it. Turns out perfectly with my desire to improve myself.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I would really love to see you guys out there. He's actually in the chat right now. He said he'll give a free class to two separate people who are on the fence about training. You can email him, contact him on the website. And that's really freaking cool. I highly recommend it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to look at his calendar.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then I'm going to look at flights.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the answer is probably no. Because flights are retarded right now. But if there are any... Cheap flights that line up. I will fly down there and take a class.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, we got to do this, Nick. We'll do it. And if you can find some cheap flights, maybe we could even convince him to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): throw
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): more classes on the schedule. I don't know. I'm not saying we can. I'm not saying we can't. Also, it was so cool to have my step bro come out and be able to shoot a class with him. So I would love for my little bro, Nick, to come out and shoot a class too. And I would love for Jeremy to come out and shoot a class.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking fun, man. Savage, you're welcome. Obviously, always.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Savage, you can go fuck yourself.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would love to shoot a class with Don't worry, I'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doing
Savage (manual, reviewed): it just fine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Savage,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bring your dad with you. So HighlandsDefense.com.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Put
Savage (manual, reviewed): him in some shells.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hit contact. Get a
Savage (manual, reviewed): kick out of that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hit contact on the website. And yeah, he's going to give away a couple classes to some listeners.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would actually be really funny if you took your dad's ashes and loaded into a couple of shotgun shells and then took it to like a sporting clay event or a ski range and didn't tell anybody.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): mean, what's the big deal? It's fucking ash. Like, what's it going to do? I was just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): having a conversation about this at work today.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Talk about a 21-gun salute of yourself.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (manual, reviewed): we are considering doing it for putting in some fireworks for the 4th of July because that was his big thing.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): What was it? Christopher Titus. was like, my dad was like, cremate me, put me in a douche bottle, find a hooker, run me through one last time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): would like to be, I would like to be cremated. And then I want those ashes mixed in to bread. And then I want that bread baked and served at my funeral or wake.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh God. Oh, that was a Ronnie Carrington bit where he was like, put me in the chili at the, at the wake. But take my dick and balls off before they cremate there. Take my dick and balls off before you cremate me and throw that in the chili too.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): everybody
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gets
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): little
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tasty when I'm dead and gone. Fucking gross. Nick, Zach said if we have out-of-towners, he'll find range time. So we can figure it out. Anyway, HighlandsDefense.com. Go check him out. If you're interested in coming to a class, like he said, he's going to give away a couple classes. So that is freaking cool. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Just such a rewarding way to spend a day on the weekend. Like I get it. Like, you know, classes cost money. Ammunition costs money. It's hard to get away from life and family. But to make yourself more lethal, to give yourself a better chance of surviving, if you ever have to use your gun in a defensive capacity, like goddamn, like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one of the best investments that I think you can make.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let me know. Let me know. I got a new gun today. Surprisingly.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did not know this was coming, but here it is. So this is the Rock Island Armory STK200.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Have
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you guys seen these?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I've never even heard of it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): looks like a Glock clone. A Glock off?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It is absolutely Glock-ish. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100% compatible, but compatible with Gen 3 Glock parts. This was a project that they wanted to bring to life to create a striker fire pistol for Rock Island Armory. Now, there are some differences that you may not expect. Number one, it's an aluminum frame.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): when you have an aluminum frame, what else do you usually have?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Higher cost. An
Nick (reference, not reviewed): aluminum cost, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have an aluminum cost.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's I was going to say.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, you have the iron tacks.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): As
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it were.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this one,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got some interesting grip panels that I believe are all. Also aluminum, but they're like part of the grip. The texture actually feels really nice. The trigger feels like a Gen 3 Glock trigger. Maybe a little bit better. You know, like I'm not saying that I love it. I'm not saying that I hate it. I'm just saying that dry firing it, it feels familiar. It's got, you know, reasonably attractive slide. Just very basic serrations. They feel deep and grippy enough. Maybe I could deal with them being a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): little bit grippier, but. I literally just checked, just logged this in right before the show. So I haven't had a whole lot of hands on time with it. Takes RMR
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cut
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): optics, which brings me to my next point is what optics should I put on this one?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Gideon optic should I put on this? RMR cut.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Omega.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): such an easy choice because I have Omegas and I have them on so many different guns. And you're right. It's just like a great one. One of my favorites.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I love the circular shape. It's just fantastic because your eye is naturally drawn to the center of a circle.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's just a nice big round window.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Dude, you know what?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree. Okay. I'll throw the Omega red dot on this. That's from Gideon Optics. And you know, while we're here, the Omega is on their website right now. $229.99. Nick and I were talking about the Mediator XL and the Mediator 2, which we both have respectively on our Foxtrot Mike Foldy Boys with the ISU9.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): My brother over the weekend shooting in the class, he shot the Granite Comp
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Red
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dot Sight, which is the really big window on my Smith & Wesson M&P Metal competitor. And absolutely loved it. It did well for him all day. I was actually, oh, it was his first time ever using a red dot. And that has that nice 6 MOA green dot on mine. And he fucking loved it. He was like, this is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not even
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): challenging
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anymore. Like you put the dot on the target and you pull the trigger. And as long as you do everything right when you're doing that, it just like shows up. You don't have to align the sights. You don't have to do anything. You just put the red dot on and do it. It's like magic.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): agree.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So got to use them a lot. If you're looking for an optic, whether it's a long range rifle scope, the Gideon LR. If you're looking for enclosed emitter, they've got the Valor Mini. They've got the Mediator, the Mediator 2. If you're looking for something that fits a Glock 6, what is it? ORS
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that what it's called? ORS? Yeah, for the Glocks, the new Glocks. They've got the Valor Mini that fits that cut as well. Like they're putting out products constantly. Sometimes it's hard to keep up, which is an amazing thing. If you want an LPVO, they got that too. You can get it all. GideonOptics.com. Coupon code WLS is life. And yeah, I think I saw Bob in the chat actually. So, you know, if you're looking for a company that gives a shit about this community and gives a shit about you, the listeners of WLS,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you cannot go wrong with Gideon Optics at GideonOptics.com.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, I'll throw an Omega on this. That's a really good idea, Nick. And you're not wrong. You're right. So it doesn't have the stupid Glock cut. It's got a two-slot pick at the bottom of it, which is pretty cool. The texture is aggressive, and I really think that I'm going to be happy with that. The mag release has texture on it as well. Oh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that ambi?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think so. Yeah, it's an ambi mag release. That's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): unexpected.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think overall it's a very nice package. Now, how much would you think that a clock-ish kind of handgun, strike or fire?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): $250.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): With a metal frame?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): $350.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Really?
Savage (manual, reviewed): Probably $500.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you genuinely think that, Nick, or are you just fucking with me?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No, but you said something earlier about how usually aluminum is expensive. I am going to guess that it MSRPs for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): $4.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): $472.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): son of a bitch. It MSRPs for $472 on their website.
Savage (manual, reviewed): is pretty good.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It is, yes. Now, because of that, that means when you go look for it on a website, like I just clicked there, buy now, and it takes me to a website where it's $389.99. So metal, aluminum, so metal frame, Glock. Glock compatible parts, striker fire pistol, the STK 200. Comes with one magazine, which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is a Glock magazine. And that is a complaint, but it is STK branded on the base plate. Doesn't actually say Glock anywhere, but I mean, a Glock mag is a Glock mag. And,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, I always complain about one magazine. Like I think that any kind of gun should probably come with two minimum, three. Is preferable. So, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that I'm going to be very excited about this. Our buddy, John McClain, who works over at Rock Island, the guy who wears the weird pants during competition, he had a lot of input on this gun when they were making it. So, he actually loves it a lot. And he is the reason that I was like, yeah, I'll definitely do a review on that. So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you recall,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the... Is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the frame cast?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is it,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like some of the metal canic frames are like cast. Like you can see a casting line in the frame.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cast
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): frame.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Fireball.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm looking in the magwell for machine marks.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't really see any. But that's not saying that it's cast. It's just saying that they do a good finish. Maybe.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do not see a seam anywhere.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nor
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): even the remnants of a seam where even if they ground it down. Because you can still generally see that stuff. I don't see anything. So my guess is that it's machined.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): An
Nick (reference, not reviewed): easy way to tell would be to break it and then look at the grain structure.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hold on. BRB.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. If you have like a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): big
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hammer. Do what I did with that canic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that high point that I had.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah. I think it's going to be fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you ever pay me for that high point? I did. Okay. I sure as fuck did. I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like, I just thought about that. Seven months later. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): remember, I was like, God damn it. I haven't paid you yet. And then I sent it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, STK 200 from Rock Island Armory. Made in the Philippines. Obviously imported by RAA. Hold on. That is untrue. Arms Corps. Made by ACP in the Philippines, which is Arms Corps' parent company.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): imported by AP International in Pahrump. But, you know, Rock Island Armory, Arms Corps. Same. Same thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's crazy. $389.99 is kind of a shockingly good price. Let's see. Okay, guys.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know that I'm about to make all your dreams come true.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going hunting this weekend.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I got buck tags. So me and Mikey from Let's Go Hunt are going to go head up and see if I can get a buck. Because I think this is my first buck tag. I've had doe tags pretty much every year. But this is first time. I think I had to spend five preference points. I don't remember. A few preference points.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I got a buck tag.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): save
Savage (manual, reviewed): the bones?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like, well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): which bones?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Savage (manual, reviewed): the skull.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Maybe
Savage (manual, reviewed): like the, you know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just
Savage (manual, reviewed): buying a ribcage, stuff like that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Savage (manual, reviewed): you can bleach those and do some pretty cool art with them.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I have my nail guy skull and my ram skull hanging in the stairwell here at the shop.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if I get a buck with a good rack, but like I'm not going to wait for a buck with a good rack. Like if I see a four corn or whatever the hell they call them, I'm going pop that bitch right in his noggin.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not going to like give up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): taking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a buck just waiting for the perfect one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): maybe I should. I don't know. We'll see how it goes. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stopped
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): doing that after plenty of years. I'd go hunting and I'd go like the first day and I'd pass up on something because it's like the first time I've been out that year. And then I saw nothing else the rest of the year. So I'm like, I just started shooting the first thing that walked by. I don't give a fuck if it's a doe. I don't give a fuck if it's got spots. I don't give a fuck if it's a small buck. I'm going to shoot the first fucking deer I see and then I'll worry about doing something cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): after
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that. That's kind of how I am. I'm like, this is my first buck tag. If I skip on something and then don't get one, that's kind of a disappointment because it's not like those preference points
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): are easy to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): come
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): by.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): does Colorado do it? Is this whitetail?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Mule deer, I believe.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Do you have an antlered and antlerless? Yes. Okay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yes.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): How many? You only get one, I assume? I only have one, yes. And it's just antlered? Antlered season. Season two, yep. Oh, yeah, I forget you guys. So we have, like, it's the same season. Like, bow season goes from, like, September to February.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's bow, crossbow, compound, recurve. Like, it's primitive weapon, right? You can help with a fucking spear and an atlatl if you want to. But you can help with a spear, bow, compound, or recurve, or a crossbow. And then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): set days for, Like muzzleloader. And then there's a week of gun season, which is like, you know, the big week. But you just buy whatever tags you want. And like certain counties have, you know, each county has its own like bag limit. So I don't know what Medina County is, but historically it's been like four. You get, you can shoot,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can buy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): An
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): either sex tag or an antlerless tag.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): either sex gets you antlered or no antlers. Oh, interesting. And then antlerless only gets you antlerless. There's no, like, I don't, if I remember correctly, there's no antlered. It's just either sex or antlerless.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): again, you shoot whatever the fuck you want. But you're only allowed,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm trying to think of the last time that I actually bought a fucking hunting license and a deer tag. Because if you hunt on your own property, you can do what's called a homeowner's tag. You don't need to buy a hunting license or a deer tag because you're hunting on your own property. Hunting licenses are only for off your property. So I just hunt on my property. I haven't bought a hunting license or a deer tag in years.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): But it was like you could get two either sex and two antlerless. Or you could obviously shoot four antlerless animals if you wanted to. But you can get two antlered and two antlerless. And then some counties are like three and three or two and three or two and four. And it just depends on the year and like what the last survey of the state showed. Then they kind of adjust the numbers. There's more deer up here. There's less deer down here. You can shoot more deer here. Less deer here. Yada, yada, yada.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So it's weird that you have like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is like antler season. Like you're only allowed to shoot this at this time. Like, yeah, for us, it just depends on what kind of tag you have. If you want to pay the money to have. So like if I shoot four deer at home, but then I go to a county where there's a six deer bag limit, I can buy two more tags. I just can't shoot it in this county. I have to shoot it in one of these counties.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. And I mean, like we have zones. I have four. GMUs, game management units that I can hunt my tag in.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, but see, mine works in the whole state. Right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know. It's different. weird for me.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): But like people travel to Colorado. It's a destination hunting place. People aren't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): traveling.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to Ohio for whitetail.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I've
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): never
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): heard of that, but I believe you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you want to shoot a big deer, you come here.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. We definitely have argued about that before. agree. Yeah. They're big. So anyway. I'm doing that. I'm going to take my 300 PRC. I know it's a little bit overkill. just it's that rifles like kind of light. I've got a few bodies on it already. I know my dope. So I'm going to go confirm my zero this week and confirm my dope out to 300.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can have bodies under your gun.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So that gun has killed two nil guy and I laser engraved little nil guy skulls in the stock.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And I hope to put a buck on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as well.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, I'm going to do that. This coming weekend and hopefully next week I'll be able to tell you about the buck that I took.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if not, well,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): won't even have to show up for that podcast. Take the whole two and a half hours.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, I was told the other day that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can adjust my work schedule for duck hunting. Dude, nice.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Take advantage of that shit.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Seriously.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): might. I don't know. I have a lot to do.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was basically told if I wanted to come in later in the day so that I can go duck hunting in the mornings,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I am good to go.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's actually really cool.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I thought that was pretty awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is my Blue Alpha Battle Belt Lite with Blue Alpha magazine pouches.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it's got the leg strap from Blue Alpha. It is an awesome battle belt. I also had an extra one that I let my brother use.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And it worked great for him. had the inner belt and the outer belt. He used it all day long. Really liked it. And I just, yeah, this is the one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): point of that is that I think every single person at class, except for one dude, and that included the instructors, had a Blue Alpha battle belt light. So, like, they are out there. It's pretty much one of the gold standards. So, if you're looking for a belt, a battle belt, or even just an everyday belt, go to BlueAlphaBelts.com. And check out what they have. Lots of great stuff.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Guys, guess what time it is.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Time to argue and yell at each other?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yes. As soon as I find the audio.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): time for this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. Dusky did send a $2 rumble rant that said $22. It's like, just got to make me say that every episode. And I'll do it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like Ron Burgundy. I'll read whatever you put. So this is Bang Rank. Let me go ahead and pull this up. You know, you think you're ready and then you just realize you're not ready.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): While you get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ready,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one. You're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to lock up the chickens?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got to lock up the chickens, guys. Share screens. Bang rank. There we go. Share this. Do this. Okay. So bang rank is basically where we rank things based on our personal opinions and our personal opinions very often. Uh, do not work. So two weeks ago we did which game most shaped your tasting guns. And after every episode, I let this run for an additional week for people who listen after the fact, who listen to the podcast after the fact to go ahead
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and rate these. And on the listener board for this, uh, call of the, this is which game most shaped your tasting guns. Call of duty. They ranked a B and this is S is like. The highest and F is the lowest. So it's S and then A, B, C, D, F like letter grades in school. So Call of Duty was kind of the highest for the listeners after the fact. And then Metal Gear Solid, Battlefield, Red Dead Redemption and Counter-Strike was
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all rated as a C from the listeners after the fact. And then they ranked GoldenEye, 007 and Fallout a D.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then last week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did the worst gun show cliches. Audio listeners and people who watched after ranked the secret price where they just kind of like don't put prices on anything. So you got to ask and then haggle. They ranked that in A. Ranked as a B was the gun show markup, the inconvenienced vendor, the I know what I got guy, and the custom, you know, spikes tactical AR table. All ranked as a B. And then they ranked the not actually a gun booth,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, rain gutters. All that bullshit. The stun gun booth and gas station knives all as a C. So not really that cliche. Now, tonight, Jeremy,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): here's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what we got.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was picked by Savage One R today. And this is things that do not make you a FUD. So we're going to rank how bullshit each reason is for some calling someone a FUD. Like we've done what makes someone a FUD, but this is like, this is not a FUD. So S is going to be like completely unfair. That's not fuddy at all. And F is like, yeah, that kind of fits. That's pretty fuddy. So a higher tier means a worse excuse for calling someone a fud. And F is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like the best excuse.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. Now Jeremy plays it like you can only give basically one rank per item and everyone else can just play however they want. You could give everything an S, everything an F, however you want to. So our choices tonight are preferring wood furniture,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): liking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): revolvers, enjoying trap or skeet, sticking with iron sights only because red dots are just stupid, owning one gun you enjoy and not really venturing outside of that, and then ignoring every new product launch. Like, I don't give a shit. I like my Taurus.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can't even think of a Taurus model right now. Bad example.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): GX4.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Thank
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you. I like my Taurus GX4 and I don't need anything else.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): All right. I mean, the fact that you picked a Taurus makes you a fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I hate Taurus. That's why I picked it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Let's go ahead and get started with preferring wood furniture. Does this make you a FUD? S for yes. Or I'm sorry,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): things that do not make you a FUD. Does preferring wood furniture make you a FUD or not?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): again, just a reminder, higher tiers mean that it's a worse excuse for calling someone a FUD. So Jeremy, preferring wood furniture.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Does
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this make you a FUD or not?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and by the way, I'm going to play where I have to give each one a letter grade.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Sorry, my hearing aids were tickling my ears. What'd you say?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Preferring wood furniture. Things that do not make you a FUD.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): S is completely unfair. It doesn't make you a FUD. F is like, you're kind of a FUD if you like this.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Or FUD-ier. Totally a FUD. F is FUD-ier. S is... Well, like, I don't think it necessarily... I don't think any of these necessarily make you a FUD. I'm going
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to be honest. Like, I would rank every one of these except for one as an F. That's why tonight I'm going to play where I have to give each one a letter grade.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wait, wait. F being fuddier? Yes. Why would you say all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of these
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, no, no.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I would give everything an S then. Sorry.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): God damn it. That's what I was like. I'm like, really? Because we're going to argue about this now. I fucked that up.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): We have like a triple negative going
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would give everything except for one an S because none
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this makes me a FUD and I pretty much like every single one of these.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I mean, what's just beautiful?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): What is awesome? Now, if you're like. If you're the kind of guy that's like, I don't want that Maddie Mattel because blah, blah, blah. You know, wooden, steel. But just liking wood furniture or wood and steel guns, there's kind of a sex appeal. Wooks wouldn't exist if wood didn't have some kind of appeal to your soul. You know what mean? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the Wooks stuff, Fucking love it. And like, you know, I bought that C380 battle rifle, 308 battle rifle, or C308 battle rifle, I mean, and took all the bullshit black furniture off that and replaced it with wood. And it's just primo. My MP5 has that wood stock. And even though it's like not practical and kind of stupid, I just love it so much that I'll never take it off. Anyway,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy, things that do not make you a FUD is this.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Well, if I got a theorem, I also agree that I would put all of these as an S.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): But I'll try.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Thanks.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So you don't fucking cry. Thanks, buddy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hey,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): listen,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sent this out to the group like nine hours ago.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I know. It's fucking busy. I know. I'm going to put this as.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): going to put this as. I'm going to put this as my S because there's nothing wrong with preferring the look of wood furniture on a gun. It's just so fucking classic.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): As
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for Jeremy, how about
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Nick?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I am going to say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with Jeremy on this one, but I'm going to jump down a little bit just for the sake of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): controversy.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I guess I'm going to say B.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): average. Yeah, because there are situations in which it can make you a FUD,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it doesn't necessarily make you a FUD. So, yeah, I'm going to say B because it could be, but it also could not be.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (manual, reviewed): it's kind of an A for me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Savage (manual, reviewed): know, I mean,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Savage (manual, reviewed): are those guys that are like, oh, it's wood and metal or nothing. Screw that. Like Jeremy was saying, screw the Mattel bullshit. But I mean, A, you know, wood is awesome. I like my wood.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we know you like wood. I bet
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you do.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Also, man, okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is almost S for me, but like you guys mentioned, it is like sometimes it can be fuddy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's for the wrong reasons. So I give this one an A just because there's another one that I think I rank a little higher, which gives us an average, cast average of A. So we'll drag that one there. Boom. Number two, liking revolvers. So, things that do not make you a FUD. Nick.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to say...
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I resemble a lot of these. Same.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): am going to say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): C
Nick (reference, not reviewed): for this one just to be different from the last one, but I feel about the same way. It could, but it also could not.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): depends on the situation. It depends on what you're using the revolver for.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if you're like, well, revolvers are just more reliable, and so that's all I carry.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, then then, yeah, you might be a FUD. If you're like, hey, they're just fun to shoot. So I have a couple to go shoot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's not funny at all.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Savage. Oh, sorry. Let's say C. C. Savage.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah. F. As in fuck all you. This is the funniest shit ever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking jackass.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): You know what, Savage? You know what I have to say about that?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking love revolvers.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): single action, double action, single action only.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just awesome.
Savage (manual, reviewed): There's very few revolvers that I do like, but generally I don't find them very interesting at all.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Bro, I've got my Chiapa Rhino, my Python.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Chiapa Rhino and Pythons are exceptions.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): In
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the last episode. Shawn made a comment about shoulder holsters and cardigans.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wait
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a minute. Nick has stood up and now he's unbuttoning his girl sweater.
Savage (manual, reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): underneath it, he's got his PPK? PPSH? I don't remember.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No, it's my J-frame and shoulder holster
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): under
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cardigan.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's hilarious. Awesome. For me, liking revolvers, I don't think it's funny, but since I'm trying to give a different letter grade to each, it's a B. Jeremy?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, like what Nick said. If you're the kind of guy that's like, oh, revolvers are, you know, it's like the 1911 guy. It's like, two world wars. Like, if you're all thinking of revolvers as you're stuck in the 70s with the shitty pistols that existed at the time, like, yeah. Okay, it's not 1970 anymore. But just liking revolvers? No, revolvers are fucking cool. And revolvers can handle way more pressure than any
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): pistol can. So you can get a lot more Big Bang in a revolver than you can a pistol.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Rank it.
Savage (manual, reviewed): You can get more Big Bang in a single shot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Cool.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Cool story, bro.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): at least with a revolver, you can have like five or six shots when there's like a... Bear charging you or whatever.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I can have a 460, fucking 66,000 PSI cartridge launching a 300 grain bullet at like 1,700 feet per second. Like get wrecked, bitch. I would put this as, let me check my notes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm trying to like. Tear everything in my head. You gave the first one a B.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I gave the first one an S.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, you gave the first one an S.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I'm going to put this at...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): going to put... Oh, this is hard. I know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): going to give this... I'm going make this A.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. That's going to average us out because of Savage's fucking F to a C for the cast. I'm going to take a quick break because there's something going on in the chat over here. They're like having... I'm going to call the chat. I'm going to call the live viewers the Bang Gang. So the Bang Gang is having like a battle over here with Rumble Rants. Agent Entropy sent a $2 and said, what's gayer than 5-7? A couple seconds later, he sent another $2 and said, what's gayer than 5-7?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): couple minutes later, he sent another $2 and said, a PS90. What's gayer than a PS90? Then Lenny sent a $5 and said, agent, agent is way gayer, vain side of snicker down, level gay. Then Agent Entropy sent a $10 and said, answer, hi, Lenny. And then Lenny, being soundly defeated by the $10 rant, sent a $2 that said, hi, agent.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's the end of it. I just saw like these big color blocks going by over there. Enjoying Trapper Skeet. I'm going to start this one off. It is an S. A lot of FUDs do it, but it is an outstanding way to start. Spend a weekend. My God, it's so much fun. I don't think it's fuddy. I think that fuds do it, but I think it's a really cool, fun way to exercise the Second Amendment and to exercise a hobby and to have fun with your bros and your friends.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): There's nothing like drinking beer with your buddies and playing a game of blue chip.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): blue chip a skeet or clay game?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's just a...
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm just throwing all clay pigeon games. There's like 30 of them. Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy calls it when he and his buddies get drunk on Friday night and take Viagra.
Savage (manual, reviewed): They play duck, duck, goose, but not the way you'd expect.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): We play cow, pig, goat.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They hope you brought your bucket. They jerk off around a fire barrel and see who can put it out.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's really weird when you know one of your friends has hyperspermia.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I don't. That was a joke.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Enjoying Trapper Skeet.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, there's nothing like an afternoon of pulling out a clay pigeon thrower and just launching clays across the pond and breaking them. We were 4th of July. All my buddies were over. And Marco set up a clay pigeon thrower back by the barn. we just, I mean, God, we went through three or four cases of clays and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): couple bricks of shells. And it's just a good goddamn time.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So much fun. Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Hey, grab your buddy's shotgun. Somebody brought out a tactical Beretta, and we were trying to shoot clays with it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I've done that.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): blast.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And trying to shoot them one-handed and shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I got an over-under and a side-by-side specifically to shoot clays because it's so much fun.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. I love taking my coach gun out there. You can't wait very long, but goddamn. If they get too far away, the spread's too much and it's fucking, you know, like the pattern goes around the shell and you're like, what the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, what happened? The pattern goes around the clay and you're like, I swear to God, it was right in the middle of it. Yeah, nothing touched it.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, sporting clays is fun as well. It's just a good time. It is. I used to go to a sporting clay thing every Thursday out by my house before I was married. No, I'm going to make this be. This is right up there at the top. Savage.
Savage (manual, reviewed): This has got to be an S for me. All right. Some of the best memories with my dad, with the family, going out and doing things together. Clay shooting, trap shooting, skeet shooting, duck hunting. It's all good fun for the family.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's cool. That's awesome. Nick.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): S is least FUD, correct?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Correct. Yeah, it does not make you a FUD.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): S.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Boom.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's fun. It's a good time. It can be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): affordable,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know. Like shotgun shells aren't terribly expensive. Clay pigeons aren't terribly expensive.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, and it can be practical too. It can be really great practice for leading a moving target.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a skill that can transfer to bird hunting. So yeah, I give this an S.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, so that averages is out to an S. Zester in the chat said gay for clays. Yes, indeed I am. All right, now, sticking with iron sights. Red sights are retarded. Nick, start us off.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This is the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): first
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I felt real inspired to say F.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think that iron sights are good. I think that having
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): skill is good. I think that...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, like batteries die and optics fail and whatever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): being able to yank the optic off and use the irons or look through the optic if it's not functioning properly and use irons is awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't think that every gun needs irons. And I don't think that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): every
Nick (reference, not reviewed): situation needs irons. And yeah, if you're not like an enthusiast shooter and you just want to be able to like go have a good time at the range and you want to use a red dot, then. Fucking go for it, man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Very well said. So Nick is an F. Ironsides only, gang. Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): D.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): D.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let's see. How do I feel about Ironsides? Let me just see what I've done so far. I've done a B, an A, and an S. You're to get some F energy for me. I think iron sights is a very valuable skill. I think you should have it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also love red dots and I think you should do that too. think you should be able to pick up any handgun and be proficient with it. Jeremy, where do you stand?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): C.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): C.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Again, I think you should, just because optics have become more prevalent, they...
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Fail and break and all the things Nick said. And I think you should know how to use the default
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): aiming
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): system on a firearm.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): definitely. Let's see. Vince H said, I give this one a Z. Yeah, I can kind of agree with that.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): What's a Z job if you have to ask?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's going to average the cast out to a D. Owning one gun you enjoy. I only need the Taurus G.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what? I got to quit ever using Taurus for any example. I got the Springfield XD with the grip zone. That's all I need. Anything else? Stupid, plastic, garbage. Savage.
Savage (manual, reviewed): I mean, it's hard to say it's a FUD thing. mean, it could just be like somebody who's just not into guns, you know? Probably a C,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): guess.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): C for Savage. Nick.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): guess
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): C for Cabbage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to give this one a B because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't really see this as a FUD thing. And also, yeah, like Savage said, it could be a casual gun enjoyer. You know, like you're like, yeah, guns are neat, so I wouldn't buy one. And I go shoot it sometimes, but I don't really feel compelled to own more. Or it could be like I bought one for security, but I don't really have that much interest. So it's just like an appliance.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Or it could be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have this one and I really like it and I shoot the fuck out of it and I'm really good with it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it could be I can only afford one gun.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it could be I only afford one. I don't know that I've ever heard a FUD
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, you should only have one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah, I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): personally.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm not saying that that means you should have. I just I have personally.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think for me, I'm going to give this one. Let's see. I got S, A, B, F. This will be my
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): C,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I guess.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, I feel the same. There's reasons that you could do this. Unfortunately, I see a lot of fuds on the internet saying shit like this all the time. Like, I got the one, and it serves me perfectly well. I don't need anything else. Jeremy, where do you stand?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to go D. I'm going right down the line. Right down the line. Yeah, again, this could just be normie behavior.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's true. But it's like you get the guys who are like, ah, the only gun that I've ever needed was a 1911. And they own 30 of them. And they just keep buying more 1911s. And then when they come in the store and they ask me how, you're like, where's all your 1911s? And sometimes I don't have any in the store. And I have to ask, I have to tell them, well, I used to keep one or two around all the time because eventually somebody would buy them. But as of lately, they've really fallen out of favor. And they just don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sell like they used to because all the guys that really, really, really, really, really liked them are dying.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And I think 2011's a bit larger capacity is kind of people who love 1911's probably, probably really like 2011's. Additional capacity, 9mm, like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): at
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): least the younger guys coming up. So I think 2011's have taken a big bite out of the 1911 market personally.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Ignoring every new product launch is our next one. Oh, and by the way, that averaged us out to a C overall for the cast. I'll start off with this one. I'm going to give this a D
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a couple reasons. But like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): many guns has SIG come out with? Well, hold on. How many SKUs? Like how many individual models and options packages has SIG come out with like in the last month? It's aggressive and high.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't think it makes you a FUD to ignore every new product launch. think product launch, I just think it means that you're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): normal
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and you probably don't watch the gun news fucking every second of every day. Nick, where do you stand?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I agree. I'm going to give this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see. So to clarify, F is most FUD, S is least FUD.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to give this an A because,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): odds are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): probably don't need
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): whatever
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the fucking bullshit that's getting announced today is. It might be cool to like go look at or whatever. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): for every like one million
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): press
Nick (reference, not reviewed): releases, there's like one thing that I actually will buy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And like five things that I'm interested in. So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): no, I think you're just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ignore
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think Outlaw's got a good point.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Ignoring every new product, not just some of them. Yeah, that's true. But I think this makes you the funniest of all of these because the new launches are all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): via
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): social media and the old guys just, you know, it's not in shotgun news. God. You know what I mean?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Still waiting on my latest issue to show up.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, still waiting on American Rifleman to tell me what the new stuff coming out of. Right. I got to see who
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): paid the most money to tell me my opinion on things.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Right. It's.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean, this was me before I owned a store. Because I just didn't give a shit. Like, I liked what I liked. And I didn't have to know about. Like, I didn't own a store where my job was to literally sell this shit to people. So I didn't really care.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Like, I didn't really care about all the new. And, of course. I feel like products weren't coming out then like they are now. Like there might be a new gun that came out like every couple of years. But I mean, this is right in the time when, you know, the Gen 3 Glock had like a 20-year run.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Between two and three, there was like 25 years or something like that. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I kind of have to, whether I want to or not. I still don't care, but I, you know, I have to know what's coming out so I can.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sell
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): people. But I really think since the 04 ban got lifted and, you know, the assault weapons ban got lifted, that it's just there's, I feel like there's been so many more new companies. Because, like, I don't know. I feel like prior to 2015, it was all the big gun companies.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): didn't have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lot of the smaller ones that you have now. Yeah. The new upcoming guys. was literally Colt, Glock, Ruger, Smith. I mean, even FN wasn't releasing a lot of shit like they do now. You know what mean? Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, some companies do it well and some companies just like, how many flavors of this exact same thing can I make? Right. And, you know, like companies like Canik, like how many different SKUs do they have for different funky paint jobs and stuff? Like, I get it. It's cool. People buy them.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's just, it was,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was just,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know, I feel like the gun industry's changed a lot in the last, like, 15 years. Yeah. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would say that just ignoring it out of principle makes you more fuddy than, or ignoring it because you won't bother to pull up the internet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't even
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): internet
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, right. You see, it's a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): series
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of tubes. Invented by Al Gore.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Right. So I'm going to give this the F. This is at the bottom, only because I've run out of everything else.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yep, I know. It's a rough one. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): depends on your reasoning, I would say, on why you ignore it. But like I said, again, this is more normie behavior than it is like FUD behavior.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Some
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): people want the latest, greatest, everything. And some people just don't give a shit.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Savage has your want to do. Finish us off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ignoring
Savage (manual, reviewed): every new product launch definitely makes it more funny. So I'd put it like a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): B
Savage (manual, reviewed): -ish.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Savage (manual, reviewed): it's like I hardly pay attention to any new launch. Unless it's something really, really cool. I just,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): haven't seen anything really super interesting.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. That's going to average us out the cast to a C. So let's take a look at how the live viewers and the cast measured up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): enjoying
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Trapper. This is things that do not make you a FUD. S is the highest. Doesn't make you a FUD. F, you're a FUD. Enjoying Trapper Skeet hosts S, live viewers B. Oh, big, big. Difference there. Preferring wood furniture. Hosts, A. Live viewers, D. Hmm.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): This might be the most far apart we've been with the listeners ever. Liking revolvers. Hosts, C. Somewhere in the middle. Live viewers, A. Not a FUD. Not a FUD. Not a FUD. Owning one gun you enjoy. Hosts and live viewers, C. Right in the middle. Ignoring every new product launch. Hosts, C. Live viewers, D. They think it's fuddy. And sticking with our insights, Sonny hosts D live viewers. See, if you're listening after the fact, the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): listener, you know, listener voting or viewers who watch it not live, that that'll be open for one week. You can go vote. Just go to we like shooting dot com slash dashboard. Click on bang rank and you can vote there. I'll go ahead. I'll announce your responses next week. And that'll do it for this issue, this episode, as it were, of Bang Rank. We'll be back next week and have some more fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. Medical Gear Outfitters, if you play Bang Rank with your family and, you know, it gets a little out of hand, or if you live in France and, you know, you're just walking along, minding your own business, and suddenly you get clocked by a bunch of angry migrants, you're going to need some medical gear. Talk about it all the time. I've challenged you guys to buy things for bleeding control, for airway remediation, for respiration, for exposure and heat loss.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think I've challenged you guys to buy all that. If you had been doing that every week, you'd spend between $20 and $40 a week, and you would now have a full trauma kit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's one way you can do it. You can also just go buy the entire trauma kit. The civilian medical trauma kit is one that I highly recommend. That basically comes with everything that you need to handle the bare essentials of trauma care. And of course, that is obviously bleeding control. Not just stopping the bleed, but managing the bleed after the fact. Airway respiration and exposure. Heat loss, hypothermia, things like that. So that is what I teach in my civilian medical class. And all of it is available at Medical Gear
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Outfitters. That's Skinny Medics Company. So you're not only supporting yourself and your family by being prepared. But you're also supporting a great dude who's been on the show and been a friend of the show for a very long time. Now, I was at the pistol class and obviously the rifle class and the night shooting. What is it? Night fire basics class with Highlands Defense. And one of the fantastic things is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): med kits everywhere. There was like three med kits and a first aid kit on the table at the back. But like all of his students are dialed in. Like I think one,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): two,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): three, four. I think five people on the line had med kits on their belts. If not more, I might even be missing one. Like we all have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): small med kits on the back of our battle belts. Freaking awesome. You can buy those at Medical Gear Outfitters. And just being prepared if anything should ever happen. Like, God forbid. We don't want that. That's not why we do it. I know we're forced by the law to have automobile insurance. But this is a thing that you can make a difference if anything bad ever happens to you or your family. And I think it's important. So go to medicalgearoutfitters.com. Use coupon code WLSASLIFE to save some money. And maybe possibly someday save a life.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Now,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is time for your favorite time
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we fight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's time for Gun Fights.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): why
Nick (reference, not reviewed): though?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Why
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): must we fight? We must fight.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It could be worse. could be like Kevin Smith's podcast where it was like, let us fuck. Yeah, exactly.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's exactly what I was just thinking.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): us fuck.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Anyway. Where'd Savage go? Anyway.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's coming back. Anyway.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): swear every time something changes, Savage's camera turns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): off.
Savage (manual, reviewed): kicks me off. It's fucking annoying.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So there's that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Hold on. Let's put this up. On the screen.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, fuck.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Man,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm ill prepared. Hold on.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Opening Chrome. Okay. I'm ready. I'm ready for gunfights.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay. Okay.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I got a win, too. Do have your phone?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hey,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Nick, I'm playing on my phone.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Are
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you playing on your phone, Shawn? Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Welcome to Gun Fights. This is the shittiest, least enthusiastic game show on the internet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to show you guys five guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to tell you a little bit about those guns. There's a theme that connects those guns. You got to try to guess what they sold for. Whoever's the closest wins.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): person who gets the most out of five right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): our big wiener.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): love Gun Fights, personally.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're talking all this shit, but it's one of my favorites. Gideon Optics. of my brand. Gideon Optics says, fight for our entertainment.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): called self-deprecation.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, you're right, you're right.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And our theme tonight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not my theme,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know it's going to be good.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): theme was provided by our very own
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): homeboy, Kenneth G.,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): long-time listener.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And? Excellent at the oboe.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Kenny G plays... What does he play? I don't know.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh...
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Isn't Kenny G like a saxophone player
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): something? Probably,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That seems a little more likely.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Alright,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this is our first gun. This is the Brooklyn Arms Co. Pocket Revolver in .32 Rimfire. It is an antique.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's pretty fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): crazy.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This is a .32 Revolver. And you know how, like, normally... You would load cartridges into the back of a cylinder or like the cylinder swings out or you'd like stick a powder in a ball into the front and like compact it or something.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the cylinder, it's got these crazy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know what you call these like panels that slide forward to expose the chamber in the cylinder. So the cartridge actually loads in through the side of the cylinder.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then you would slide that panel back.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): God.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Wow. You can see that in this photo right here where it's open.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Does not work with high-pressure cartridges.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Pretty wild, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): kind of hate it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Not very strong, although it's a .32 rimfire from the days when black powder was a thing. So, like, chamber pressure. Yeah. You can like hold the cartridge in your fist.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it has a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): chamber
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): pressure of like 6,000.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if even. It's like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): six. Yeah, it's less than a fucking firecracker. I bet it was. You're like,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): ow.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I bet it was less.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Just hold it and fucking.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one had four. Actually, I also want to say that. He also was cool enough. A lot of people will write me with ideas. And there are even some people who are like, hey, here is a cool gun or like an interesting auction.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He
Nick (reference, not reviewed): provided me with four out of five of tonight's firearms and the theme. So like fucking gold star really saved me some work there. Thank you for allowing me to be lazy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Ten out
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ten.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Wood
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bang.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Absolutely. Would smoke cigars with. So this one had four bids, which is lower than usual, but it's a weird gun. And honestly, like, while I am certainly not an expert, I have seen and read about a lot of guns. And so a lot of times when something obscure comes up, it's like, oh, yeah, I've seen that before. This one, I was like, what in the fuck is that? This is not something I've seen.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This is not something I was familiar with. So I really appreciate him sending me this. This was pretty cool.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Four bids. It's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hard. Well,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): there were only four people in the country who knew about it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and it's like, it's so difficult.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah, fuck it. I'm committed.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I know. Same.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's like, I don't know that anyone would want this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): locked in.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): $1
Nick (reference, not reviewed): ,500. Wow. Failed gun designs. Savage says $400. An optional theme guess.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shawn
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says $144. And he is on the same wavelength as Savage because he also guessed optional theme guess. For the theme.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can tell you guys that's not correct.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Savage (manual, reviewed): sold for $426.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Savage was only $26 off. The closest. Wow. And for once, he and Jeremy didn't guess the exact same thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): honestly thought that this would be like very collectible or like more so. Right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because it's very interesting.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Right.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And it's in pretty good shape.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's like 150 years old, man.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I guess I didn't even really describe this thing that much to the people who are listening who can't see this thing. The Brooklyn Arms Co. pocket revolver. You should go look this up because it's pretty crazy. The cylinder where the chambers are has a sliding portion that has some serrations on it. So I guess you could get like a grip on it with your thumb. It appears to have a brass frame,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is engraved and actually like. Really pretty. Honestly, the gun itself is not a bad looking little gun. It's an old, what, like late 1800s, early 1900s pocket revolver. So it's single action, no trigger guard, tiny little trigger with the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): brace
Nick (reference, not reviewed): thing. I don't know how you'd phrase that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): on a Derringer where part of the frame comes down and then the trigger is just like a little tab that protrudes from that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): really, really interesting. Really interesting revolver. Definitely worth looking up if you're not familiar with it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Check
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it out.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Is the bore octagonal?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's a great question.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): click through the photos.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think that's just the rifling.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Although
Nick (reference, not reviewed): maybe it is. Maybe it is like polygonal rifling.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): polygonal. That's the word I meant.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty cool little gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Pretty
Nick (reference, not reviewed): interesting.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): First guess was 444.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then I was like, nah, four bids, it's way too high.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Son of a bitch, Savage. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was
Savage (manual, reviewed): going to go 200, but yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Savage (manual, reviewed): wow.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is the next gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I think we just did one of these recently. This is a Remington Elliott Antique Ring Trigger. Also 32 rimfire. This one's a pepper box. So this one, the barrels, it's got. Four barrels.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Nick (reference, not reviewed): are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a square configuration. The barrels hinge forward.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then, you know, you load the four individual chambers. Snap it shut. So it's break action. And then instead of having a trigger guard, the trigger is actually a ring that you would use to cycle the action. And the action on this is a revolving firing pin. So instead of having one barrel and four chambers that revolve, it has four chambers and four barrels and a firing pin that revolves. This had 22 bids.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is definitely well loved, but it's a, as it says in the title, a Civil War era revolver. Excuse me, not revolver. Civil War era pistol.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Pretty
Nick (reference, not reviewed): interesting design. Kind of an interesting shape.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): look at a lot of old guns and they do not look ergonomic. This one actually doesn't look terrible to me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ring trigger, do you push it out or does it come down and hinge?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I believe you push it forward to cycle the firing pin to the next position and essentially cock it. I believe. That's interesting. Jeremy knows.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): He knows about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): old
Nick (reference, not reviewed): shit because he's a FUD.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah, well.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I have seen guns similar to this, but they've all been broken.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): People like find them in a closet and bring them down to us and like, can you fix this? And I'm like, no. I'm like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): first
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): off.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Old shit's really complicated.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. It's like, first off, every part in here is hand fit. Secondly. Nobody's made this gun for a hundred and some years, so there's no parts available. C, if you want me to hand make all the parts, I will try. I can't guarantee that it's... It's going to work, and you're going to pay me for the attempt. And they're like, I'm like, and I charge $85 an hour. Yeah, you're like. And they're like, how long do you think it'll take? I'm like, six months. And they're like, oh.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it turns out this entire gun from 1872, it relies on this poorly heat-treated clock spring. Right. And it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): broke 100
Nick (reference, not reviewed): years ago.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it broke almost immediately.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty interesting little gun on this one, though.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of neat.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, I'm kind of annoyed because there's like 17 different possible themes based off these first two guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I hope you're buckled in, big boy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Are
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we all in?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what she said. we are. Yep, everybody's in. All right. Jeremy says $250 in rimfires. Savage says $500, 32 rimfire pistols. Shawn says $422 in nonstandard triggers.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for $473,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): which means Savage was, excuse me, $473.98. So Savage was $26.02 off. I'm going to kill you, Savage.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Fucking hell, man. And none
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of you are right on the theme. All
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So that eliminates
Nick (reference, not reviewed): some shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): actually surprised that you guys haven't figured it out yet.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think I might have it. I think I have it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. So this one is actually two guns. So one of them fits our theme and one of them does not. And I'll tell you guys right off the bat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't feel like being that much of a dick. Uh, it's the revolver that fits the theme. It is not the single shot that,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fits the theme. Um, all right. So this is a,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): single shot pistol that we're kind of going to disregard. And then also a revolver. Um, so the revolver is a 28 cup fire. Also this auction had six bids, even though it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fire. Uh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, it is cup fire. Um, which is not something again, that I was real familiar with. Uh, pretty. Pretty interesting. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): once
Nick (reference, not reviewed): again, this is a tiny little pocket gun, tiny little revolver.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): has the same Derringer style. I don't know how else to describe that trigger where part of the frame comes down and then the trigger is just a little tab. There's no actual trigger guard,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's okay because this is a single action. So if the hammer is not cocked, then, you know, you're good.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Did you just whistle an S?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Probably.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, maybe. So yeah, brass receiver,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the classic 1800s stuff. The steel has patinaed nicely.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in fairly good condition. What's really interesting on this one is you guys see those slots in the cylinder?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Now normally those slots would lock the cylinder in place.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): When
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're firing the revolver, right? Like the revolver, there's a little pall that comes up at the back of the cylinder on most modern day revolvers and rotates it to the next position. And then as you pull the trigger back further, there's a little tab that comes up and locks into that little notch in the cylinder to make sure that it is locked in alignment with the barrel, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can't see in the photos for this auction. Is that on the other side of this gun,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a little lever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): when you push that lever, it actually has a claw that goes into that groove
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): extracts the cartridge out of the front of the cylinder.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What? What?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Fucking crazy, right? So that doesn't actually lock the cylinder in place. That is an extractor groove. And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it pushes it out the bottom of the other side of the cylinder? Is that what it is?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pushes it out the front of the cylinder. So you would use your index finger on your right hand and you would push down on this little lever or forward and it has a little arm that goes in there with a claw
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): grabs the back of the cartridge and pushes it out the front of the cylinder.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Very
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): interesting.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Crazy, right?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, that's how you would unload this thing. Pull the empty casings out or unfired rounds. And then, yeah, you'd load it in reverse here. You can see, actually, I guess it's missing. Here's the hole where it would mount.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let
Nick (reference, not reviewed): me see if I can go back here. Here's the hole where it would mount. And then here's the notch in the frame where the cartridge goes into the cylinder or out of.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what I was talking about, that notch right there. I saw it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): there's a little arm that goes right here. And yeah, you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hit
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it with your trigger finger
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and you'd
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pop the cartridge out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Very interesting.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, pretty wild.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is tough. All right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of the bids are in.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy says $500 at obsolete black powder revolvers. Savage says $200 pistols that use obscure extracting designs. Shawn says $206, Civil War era.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn is the most accurate on his theme in that these are all Civil War era, more or less.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Nick (reference, not reviewed): had the one, the Derringer, here a minute ago with the four barrels that was not a revolver.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pepper box.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's got a revolving...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got a revolving firing pin. And I don't know that all of them have like wild
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): extraction
Nick (reference, not reviewed): designs.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Anyway, this sold for $231 for these two guns. Fuck. Jeremy said 500. Savage says 200. Shawn said 206. Oh, fuck you. $6 closer than Savage. Get wrecked, faggot. He was $25 off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dick.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Making him the closest.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Put that up there. All right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Um,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this next one is one gun. However, the first photo shows the same gun from three angles edited together. So I just want to avoid confusion there. Um, so yeah, this is one, one gun. This one only had one bid, but again, it's worth it because these are really interesting. Um, this one was also, uh, front loading.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is an antique Moore's patent front loading 32 teat fire six round. Single action revolver. And I'm not sure if teat fire is correct or not. To be totally honest, the listing said teat fire several times. So I assume it wasn't a typo or it might have just been a really prevalent typo.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, this one's a little less a little less wild. It's got like all of the typical pocket revolver stuff, right? That same. Trigger style where the frame comes down. got the little nubbin, single action. Here you can see the, well, let's see.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can see the ejector right here is this little U-shaped thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a screw on the bottom. So you would push that forward to knock the spent casings out. This one has a bird's head grip. It's got a bunch of engraving on it. It doesn't have a top strap, so the top of the cylinder is exposed.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): forcing cone is like, Very much a cone.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Savage (manual, reviewed): a coney cone.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Literally. Yeah. This is why they call it a forcing cone and it has never made sense since.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's like an inverted forcing cone. Yeah. Which is kind of wild because like usually it kind of goes the other way. But yeah, pretty, again,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): old
Nick (reference, not reviewed): ass little tiny revolver. Pretty interesting design choices. Lots of engraving, brass frame, beautifully patinaed. Overall, looks very nice for its age. It's one of those things where you look at it and you're like, oh yeah, the thing's old as fuck, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a cool way. Not like that poor thing kind of way.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, pretty neat. Only one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bid
Nick (reference, not reviewed): on this.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Real quick, did I actually get the theme right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I was just the closest, but not correct.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, you were not correct. And apparently teat fire is a thing. The bottom of the casing had a nipple or teat located in the center,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is filled with priming compound.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hold on. I got to think of a theme here. I wasn't thinking because I thought I got it.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Oh, oh, shit. I almost forgot. Yeah. Oh, shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): In
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fact, so I'm looking, I have never heard of Teatfire before. So Teatfire cartridge
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): shaped. Like a test tube.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then it's got a little nipple on the bottom of the test tube that is where the primer would be. And the projectile is in the top of the test tube. And then it's slightly flared.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I guess you would drop that in. That's really interesting. So like the rim is at the front of the cartridge. At the mouth. Weird.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you would drop it in and then the base of the cartridge is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): rounded.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This is all like really stupid shit to get around patents.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's how.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. I would say that's probably a good summation.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This is like all really dumb stuff to like, like somebody patented something and,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they're like just trying to come up with bullshit ways to get like, that's what this strikes me as.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the, the shape of the, the teat fire cartridge. Actually kind of explains the giant cone on the front of the, on the breach of the barrel there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then 30 years later, the Mosin-Nagant revolver took it to the extreme. Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): All right. All right. Bids are all in. Jeremy says $207 obsolete detonation styles. Savage says $200 Civil War pocket pistols. Shawn says $2.11, wood grips.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you fucking cunt. You guys suck it. Son of a
Savage (manual, reviewed): bitch.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn, this sold for $3.95.
Savage (manual, reviewed): God fucking damn it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn edged everybody out with the high bid. So even though he was $184 off, he was the closest.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): saw Savage starting to bid near me. So I was like, yep, I'm going to spin it up a bit.
Savage (manual, reviewed): What do you mean you started to see I literally just did $2.07.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what do you mean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you saw Savage?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): do you mean?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): What do you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you saw me? In the last two bids, Savage has been like doing my little thing that I do.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn has some sort of backdoor. He's like, I wrote the software. Yeah, right?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did write the software. That is true.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no, I do not have a backdoor. That's all Savage. Did anyone get the theme right?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Nope. Fuck you. Son of a bitch. This is the last gun. This is the only one that I had to go find. Again,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thank
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you, Kenneth. This one is a Civil War era also. Allen and Wheel Lock Side Hammer.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Allen and Wheel Lock, I read a little bit about the company and I thought it was kind of funny because they changed names multiple times. Wheel Lock is also a type of firearm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): action.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Detonation system. I don't know what you'd call that. Ignition system. And then there was another one that was at one point it was called like Allen and Forehand or something like that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was like, OK, you guys are just going through the Allen and Stock, Allen and Handguard, Allen and Barrels. Anyway, this is a side hammer, 32 rimfire revolver, just like all the well. Not all the others, but like a bunch of the others. Got that little weird trigger thing. This one's all steel, no brass. And then just like the name suggests, if you imagine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): giant
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): side
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mounted hammer that you would see on like a flint lock or a wheel lock or a match lock or any of those, that's kind of what this looks like. So imagine a small. Compact revolver with a smooth cylinder. And then on the right hand side of the gun, there is a giant ass hammer that is totally external. Screwed onto the side of it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one also looks old as shit, but like not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's been abused, but just, you know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): looks this way because it's old as shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty good. Actually, it had 36 bids. Yeah, pretty.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Pretty
Nick (reference, not reviewed): interesting little revolver design.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Bro,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what the fuck can this theme possibly be?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): thing's got a giant cock on the side of it, though. Yeah, it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does. Well,
Savage (manual, reviewed): that automatically increases the price.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): For some people.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Savage, that's not what people are talking about when they talk about the mouthfeel of the gun.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hmm.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): God, dude.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): have an idea, but I don't know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Maybe.
Savage (manual, reviewed): We'll see.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Dude.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Fuck.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Somebody already said 32 auto or 32 rimfires, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but it's not all 32 rimfires. I know. The one threw me off.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): said rimfires.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): specifically 32s, but one was a 28.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yep.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): One was a cup fire, whatever the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hell
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is. One was a 32 teat.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (manual, reviewed): and the teat. Yeah, there's a teat fire and a cup
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fire.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): kinds of weirdness.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Are
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys ready? Are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ready?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, you tell us. Are we ready?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, actually, it looks like it. Jeremy says $400 and failed firearms companies.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Savage
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says $500 and whore guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shawn
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says $458. Fuck you, Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): -handed guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): $663.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Damn
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it!
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Savage was the closest because he had the high bid. He was $163.99 off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): none of you guys were correct on your theme guesses.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Man,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's going to be either crazy or just something we didn't notice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well, once
Nick (reference, not reviewed): upon a time,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was a man named... Roland White.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jeremy's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): about to get really pissed off because Roland White filed some patents.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one of those patents was for a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): magazine
Nick (reference, not reviewed): -fed revolver
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): did not fucking work. In fact, it did not fucking work so bad that not only did it jam a lot, but when it did actually work... Theoretically, it would set every round and every chamber off at the same time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nice.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Only one was ever built.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Tight. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): patent covered one very, very important
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): design
Nick (reference, not reviewed): aspect.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cartridge firing revolver that was loaded from the back of the cylinder.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Savage (manual, reviewed): son of a bitch. So these were patent skirting. Fucking guns.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): These were all designed to get around his patent. Smith & Wesson paid him a shitload of money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): lock down that patent and basically be the sole people that were able to produce a revolver that loaded from the rear of the cylinder. And yeah, a bunch of companies came up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): tried to figure out ways to get around it. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): lot of them got sued.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a lot of them ended up paying royalties to Smith & Wesson, or they just outright lost. And yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): here we are with some really, really strange, really interesting design choices to try to get around a patent that honestly kind of fucked the industry for a while.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah, this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good
Nick (reference, not reviewed): theme.
Savage (manual, reviewed): I appreciate
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): agree
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100%.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): great, great, great job. I really appreciate him sending this in. I think this one was a really fun one. We got to look at some really interesting stuff. I actually learned a bunch.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Some of these I'd never seen or heard of.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'd heard about that patent thing, but I'd never really looked at
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of the stuff that was done to try to get around it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I had no chance of ever getting that theme right, but it's cool as shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it also like kind of made me wonder how much more advanced stuff would have been if there hadn't been that time period where like nobody could do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cartridge loading from the rear of the cylinder. Right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of kind of mind blowing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): something that we take is so basic today. Like, of course, how else would you load it? Like, what better way could there be? Like once upon a time that was locked down and no one could do it.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah, that sliding open chamber
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is so
Savage (manual, reviewed): insane.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I almost feel like that shouldn't be legal to patent.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): feel that way about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lot of things. Yeah, a lot of that stuff, man. I was just looking at the chat. So it looks like, yeah, it looks like Pogodave is out tonight. Vince H was running it for us.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Looks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like Lenny DW got one. Nick F got one. Captain Doogie got one. And Jay Weth got two, meaning he was the winner tonight. Damn. All right. Oh, and looks like Gideon Optics put up a prize. Damn.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hold
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on. I got to scroll way up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Keep
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): forgetting I don't want
Nick (reference, not reviewed): to play. Or is Hug Muffin just saying that?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Thanks,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Gideon.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't see anything. Just trying to pressure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): him.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Exactly. Well, honestly, best case scenario is Savage winning.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Savage (manual, reviewed): you say so.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right.
Savage (manual, reviewed): I got to pull forward, man. I'm pretty far behind.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Well, you did tonight. Yeah. Savage got three. Shawn got two. Jeremy got zero for, I think, the first time in a long time that Jeremy struck out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would think that some of that shit... See, that's what pisses me off about Gumbroker.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Those
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): didn't go for more
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so fucking weird. And so old. They should have gone for way more fucking money.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And they were all in good shape. And the fact that they're so fucking weird makes them... Way more interesting.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Right. Like, I like World War I guns way more than I like World War II guns.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Because World War I, they were trying to figure out, like, machine guns. Yeah. Like the subguns
Nick (reference, not reviewed): during World War
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. They're so fucking crazy. Like, if you want
Nick (reference, not reviewed): actual good subguns, go to World War II. But, like, World War I is interesting.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh yeah, that fucking 9mm Gilsenti, the fucking Italians fielded. It's like two guns welded together. I'm like, just shit like that, man. And there were so many bad designs, but you're like, I can see what you wanted to do here. It's just so much more interesting. The
Savage (manual, reviewed): Lewis gun is one of my absolute fucking favorite guns of all time. Because it's so fucking cool.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I was talking to somebody at work the other day. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): talking
Nick (reference, not reviewed): about like the stuff that I have designed at work.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And we
Nick (reference, not reviewed): were looking at some of the iterations and I was like, you know what? I don't feel bad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): my stuff always starts out like overly complicated.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then I distill it down
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I feel like it's way easier to design something that uses a lot of parts to accomplish a task than it is to design something that uses like just a couple.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't feel bad about that because I look at like firearms design at the turn of the century versus like polymer frame striker fired pistols today. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): makes me feel a little bit better. Like, yeah, the original one was like I was trying to do way too much and it was like 40 parts and had all this crazy shit going on. And by the time I got to the end, it's like three parts and it's super like simple and nice. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): love this old. Stuff like this where it's like somebody had a wild idea that they were trying to figure out and did it work? Fuck no. No, it didn't work. It sucked. But like they did a thing. It's way over the top and ridiculous and really neat. But they like explored some stuff and learned some things and, you know, it like moved us just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): little bit, a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): little bit further.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Cool. Cool theme. Some cool guns. We got to learn some things. We laughed. We cried. We got angry.
Savage (manual, reviewed): The
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): story.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, the story. The score so far is Shawn at 27. Still in the lead. Jeremy at 26. Savage coming up fast at 20 points. I think you've won the last two in a row.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): know I won the last one. I don't know if I won the last two.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Savage (manual, reviewed): now I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): lost
Savage (manual, reviewed): one and now.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think I won last week.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Savage (manual, reviewed): did you?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, because that finally broke Jeremy and I's tie.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Maybe
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it was the week before. I don't remember.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Maybe. Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't remember.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And I am still bringing up the rear at three points. Good job, Nick. So thank you guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): coming to my TEDx.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): welcome. So I was just looking at this gun,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): STK 200.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you look down the barrel?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it loaded? At the sights. Like, it's got metal sights on it, so it's better than a Glock in that way. And I'm looking at these sights.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 100%.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they're suppressor height sights.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's good.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): But you know what? They're not.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not night sights.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not night sights.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Throw the gun away.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Trash.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): idiots. All right. I go to nightvision.com. I click on Glock. I'm going to want some suppressor heights for this probably. So I'm going to say,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, suppressor height tritium plus options. All right. These fit Glock 19s. Yes. Okay. There we go. So I have brought up the night vision suppressor height sights for Glock. Sight style, suppressor height. I'm going to go. They got a lot of options here for colors, for front ring color.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to go blue.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Front
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ring color, blue. Rear ring color, either white or blacked out. I'm going to go blacked out. And there you have it. I've got the blue front perfect dot with green tritium and the black rear perfect dots with green tritium. And that'll suppressor height Glock sights for, that'll fit a Glock 19. I think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): probably what this is. Just double check.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. And I'm going to throw that in my cart. $117 for front and rear night sights that are going to fit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gun right here. I can just drift those out and drift the rear out, take the front screw out, and then throw these new ones on. Bada bing, bada boom. I'm going to use coupon code WLSSLIFE over at nightfission.com.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see how easy that is? Very, very simple. A little hammer, a little punch, and a little money. You improve a gun greatly. So go check out Night Vision. N-I-G-H-T-F-I-S-I-O-N.com. Coupon code WLS is life. Savage. Go ballistic on us.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well, I hate it. Thanks.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah. That was me angry. Actually, I'm pretty happy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): By the way, Gideon did put up $250. He said, I'm lit. $250 for the winner of Listener Gun Fights tonight. Woo.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Hell yeah, Gideon. Nice job. We got classes going. That was me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): For
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the listener leaderboard.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Get
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wrecked.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Speaking of getting wrecked, a shooter last week got fucking wrecked. And, you know, it was a tragedy, absolutely, that a school in Bend, Oregon, you know, some psycho went over there and decided to take the lives of three children and one adult. And fuck that guy. May he rot in hell. And I hope his death was painful.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (manual, reviewed): immediately after it happening, social media exploded with the tried and true scripts getting recited over and over and over again by the anti-gunners until they realized
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Savage (manual, reviewed): shit that actually went down and why it went down the way it did. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Savage (manual, reviewed): shooter was taken out, actually, by an armed civilian. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Savage (manual, reviewed): it happened so fast within the first three minutes, I want to say, that he was taken down and was dead before the police got there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Savage (manual, reviewed): literally three minutes from when they were called. Like it's it's insane how fast it happened. And on top of that, so, you know, Oregon, like Washington State and Colorado has some pretty. Insanely strict gun laws. And first of all, this happened within a school, so it was a gun-free zone. So right off the bat, that's the first clear law that was broken.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Other one, obviously, sorry?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Clarification real quick.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not automatically illegal in Oregon because it's up to each district on whether firearms are allowed on campus. This one, absolutely. Does not allow it. So you're correct in that. It's just not a given in Oregon that that's the case, just specifically in this one.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah. Secondly, the geniuses on social media said that it was done by an assault weapon. And no, he actually had a shotgun. So that was number two fucking loss for them. And then third, obviously, a father who saw this thing go down, ran in and shot the guy. Almost immediately. Unfortunately, the shooter was able to kill, you know, three innocent children. And a teacher, but it could
Savage (manual, reviewed): have been so much fucking worse. And this is like a shining beacon for why it is so important to allow lawful people to own firearms for self-defense and defense of others. Like the anti-gun side got completely... Fucking wrecked over this. Like, it's so obvious. It was like proof positive. Everything we have been saying for so fucking long. Over
Savage (manual, reviewed): and over and over again.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (manual, reviewed): it came true. And this guy is a hero. He saved so many innocent lives. Fuck the shooter. And I'm glad he was taken out so fast. I wish he could have been taken out faster. But the fact is that all of the gun laws in Oregon completely fucking... Failed. And that's why four people died. That's really what it comes down to. And the reason why everybody else is alive
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Savage (manual, reviewed): because an armed citizen went in there and ended the violence with violence.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, a dad with two kids in that school driving back to work on his lunch break
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sees some dude walking into a school with a gun, the school that his kids go to,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): goes,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): follows, pursues. Military crawls through broken glass on a door or a window to get in. Finds the dude, engages the dude effectively. Saves us a lot of tax money after the fact.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking amazing. Like this is why I train. This is why I carry. This is why I support the Second Amendment. And yeah, absolutely. Did
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guys see a picture of the kid that did it? Motherfucker looks like a school shooter. Like Minority Report computers would have been, or those weird bald people would have been going off like a mofo because he looked like a school shooter. He definitely was going to commit a crime.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Yeah, he was born a school shooter the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): way
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that
Savage (manual, reviewed): motherfucker looked. Like, goddamn. Yeah. And so, you know, following on the tales of that, just as an example for how fuck the anti-gunners were, March for Our Lives thought they would chime in with being smart. And they had this Twitter post that said, the NRA wants you to focus on how this was stopped. Yeah, I wonder why.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Savage (manual, reviewed): the focus should be on how it started. A system that allowed a gun in the hands of a 16-year-old by the time anyone could stop him. You know, a 5-year-old, 8-year-old, 11-year-old, and the teacher were dead. Yeah, the system. Which system is that in Oregon? for our lives. Oregon has an A-minus rating. From Moms Demand Action and Brady and these March for Our Lives. A minus. Like it's got one of the highest fucking ratings you can possibly get for gun control, which should result in
Savage (manual, reviewed): less gun, quote unquote, gun deaths and mass shootings, school shootings.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yet
Savage (manual, reviewed): all of those fucking fail.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (manual, reviewed): then they keep going on. They double down. They say.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Savage (manual, reviewed): guy, the hero, he stopped the shooter, but he didn't stop the shooting. That's the difference. Fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Neither did the cops, you fucking losers.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Neither did the law. Neither did, you know. Well, and the problem is they don't want to focus on the base cause of this, which is a fundamental breakdown of society.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. I
Savage (manual, reviewed): mean, that's it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Look
Savage (manual, reviewed): at this. They say. An unarmed teacher tackled him first. That's what happened first before he was shot, before the teacher got shot, by the way, and died.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Savage (manual, reviewed): good violence. You spent decades blocking laws to keep guns away from kids. Again, Oregon has all these fucking laws. How do these pieces of shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): get
Savage (manual, reviewed): up and look at themselves in the mirror and say, you go out there and say the most retarded shit you can possibly say in public?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): When
Savage (manual, reviewed): everybody knows that you're lying pieces of shit. Like, I can't get around the delusion of these people anymore. It is so far outside of reality that it's unmatched. You can't explain this shit anymore.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know how they
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): convince
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): themselves that they have the right position here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, okay, what law that is not on Oregon's books would have stopped this?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you not realize that bad people exist? That like people want to hurt other people?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what specific law? Like what law is missing in Oregon that would have stopped this? Just tell us. Tell us what laws. Tell us what laws it is so we can consider it and think about it. Not that we're going to bend over for it because we're not. We've given up too much of our cake. We're not giving up anymore ever again. So like what law do you honestly think? Keeping the gun out of the kid's hands. Like the gun apparently was recently purchased by the mother. Kept it home.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): she
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): went through a background check and whatever else. Hoops, Oregon needs for her to jump through to get it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Maybe safe storage. We haven't heard that yet. But the kid took the gun and he wanted to hurt people.
Savage (manual, reviewed): What's safe storage going to do? Nobody's going to be going house to house and checking to make sure that your guns are stored safely. These people have the minds of toddlers. They really do.
Savage (manual, reviewed): They're adults with the reasoning ability of children and the emotional intelligence of a fucking rock. Like, there's just nothing there. These are NPCs.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They're
Savage (manual, reviewed): basically AI slop repeating the same shit over and over and over again. It's a cult. It's a fucking moronic, childish,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): idiotic
Savage (manual, reviewed): cult.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what was the... The father's name. He had a weird fucking name. It's Caleb, but it's like K-A-Y-L-U-B. Whatever. I want to say his name because he's a fucking hero.
Savage (manual, reviewed): He needs some beer money.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I mean, he deserves more than that. He deserves a Medal of Honor or a Medal of Bravery or whatever the civilian version.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Fuck.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And Oregon. I want to say his name because Caleb Giammanco. Caleb Giammanco.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Fuck yeah, buddy. Hero. Way to fucking go.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't like the word hero getting thrown around, but there is nothing more heroic than putting your life on the line to follow someone with a gun into a school, which can you imagine?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Can
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you imagine? You're like going in, you're crawling through the broken glass door to find it. You're following the sounds of screams and yelling and gunfire. You have a gun, but like what happens when you turn that corner? What happens when you peek your head in that classroom? What happens if. You're in the middle of a hallway with no points of egress, and that shooter with a shotgun turns that corner. Like the bravery
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you have to exhibit as a human being is almost unfathomable. Like I know most of us feel like we would try to do the same if put in the same situation, but like the bravery and courage that that guy exhibited, like fuck, man. So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): awesome. He's up against a shotgun in close quarters.
Savage (manual, reviewed): That's not a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing
Savage (manual, reviewed): to think about.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, that's not a great place to be.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, and afterwards he called his mom
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he was like, Mom, I shot someone and killed them. They were at the school and he wasn't proud of it. He was sad and morose. Because he said that he couldn't save them all. Like, what the fuck,
Savage (manual, reviewed): bro?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): mean, I'm sure he's going through a lot of shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Nick (reference, not reviewed): now. Which is terrible because the first thing I would do is jump into our group message and be like, poor Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would text my group chat, you guys owe me a steak dinner.
Savage (manual, reviewed): I'd fucking, you know what, I would. I'd buy you a fucking steak dinner for that,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, that's the deal. And the first person who gets a stateside, In our friend group, the other ones have to buy him a steak dinner. Tight.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Nick (reference, not reviewed): seems like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Deadpool situation, you know?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Right. Easy way to earn a steak, man.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, you're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): encouraging.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And like two of the guys in the group. Does it have to be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): legal
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): state side?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yes, yes. You got an hour. Two of the guys in the group chat are cops and we're like, you can't do it on duty. We don't get that chance, so you don't fucking know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): could kill for a steak right now.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Considering one of them has already caused the death of two people, but indirectly.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Well, I mean, if we're going indirectly, I've caused the death of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): lots
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of people. But, you know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): when you got COVID and went to that nursing home and just started spitting in their mouths?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yep.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Jesus.
Savage (manual, reviewed): All that plan B. Anyways.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Also,
Savage (manual, reviewed): yep.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Nothing like tasing pregnant chicks at a Section 8 housing.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Gotta do what you gotta do.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys are. Never bought Plan B and rented a couple of movies?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): When you... When the neighbor's kid's hanging out with you because you're going to meet his dad somewhere and you had to take him there, but you have to stop by Walmart on the way and buy condoms, lube, and ranch dressing with a 16-year-old boy in tow, it looks weird.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That sounds right for Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100%. That's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): true
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): goddamn story. You have to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stop
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and buy those
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): things. It was the only time I was going to get a chance to get to the store that day, and I wanted to fuck my girlfriend at the time when I got home later that day.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Bro,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they absolutely
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): called the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): FBI.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Well, they never showed up in my house.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like, it's not for him. Jesus, that makes it worse.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I know what this looks like. Quit thinking that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They were just like, no, I didn't think that at all, you fucking psychopath.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they're just so zoned out they don't give a shit. They're like, welcome to Walmart. Yeah, there are
Savage (manual, reviewed): NPCs there, man. There's no kidding around that shit. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): more
Savage (manual, reviewed): good news keeps on rolling our way, and the best part is that it's actually coming from the Gun Violence Archive, which is hilarious. I love this so much. I still can't believe they're fucking out there. I know. It is ridiculous. A bunch of fucking basement-dwelling Redditors trying to gain some fucking rep
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): by
Savage (manual, reviewed): establishing the Gun Violence Archive despite the fact that they're completely an activist organization.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Savage (manual, reviewed): even them being an activist organization cannot defeat the fact that their own data proves that shootings are down by quite a fucking lot. So through the first three quarters of 2026, Gun Violence Archive counted 9,790 shooting deaths, 18,199 injuries nationwide as of its October 13th snapshot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Savage (manual, reviewed): say here it's grim numbers on their face with deaths recorded in all 50 states plus Washington, D.C., but they continue a historic downward trend. Q3 itself produced 3,301 shooting deaths, the lowest third quarter in over a decade since Gun Violence Archives started tracking, even with their bullshit made-up numbers. So, ironically, California, Florida, not surprising from
Savage (manual, reviewed): Florida, New Jersey, and Nebraska each posted their lowest total since 2015. The deadliest single day of the year so far landed on July 5th with 88. Fatally shot on the 4th of July weekend. Damn. But the fact that the numbers are down so much that it's historic lows, like what is going on? It's crazy. But that's not the best part. Gun sales have climbed
Savage (manual, reviewed): thanks to, in part, to new restrictions. Firearms sales are up roughly 2% in 2026. With an estimated 10.6 million guns moving across counters in the first three quarters, about 6.5 million handguns and 4.1 million long guns, Q3 alone moved about 14,000 more units than the same stretch in 2025.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (manual, reviewed): that's based off the FBI Nick's adjusted data.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): mean, all of the trends are exactly the opposite of what the anti-gunners have been claiming for the last... You know, they always say more guns, more gun crimes, more gun deaths. You have armed citizens. They're going to end up making mass shootings worse. Everything single thing they said has turned up completely fucking false. And this is this is the best thing because this is real data. This is the real world. And every day the real world is
Savage (manual, reviewed): proving those fuckers wrong.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, I saw. A thing that was like since the Lindsay Clancy trial and everything was going on, over 80 mothers have murdered 123 of their children across the United States. Get the fuck out of here. is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): way
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): more than murders committed with a gun that are not gang related or suicide. Way more. Fucking eons more. It's insane how many more it is. What is going on with these crazy ass white bitches? They got to get the fuck off TikTok, man.
Savage (manual, reviewed): They're in
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): their
Savage (manual, reviewed): brain.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Savage (manual, reviewed): I guess we'll end with a little bit of a downer.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Savage (manual, reviewed): Ruger,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Savage (manual, reviewed): Ruger, Ruger, the company is to pause
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Black
Savage (manual, reviewed): Hawk, Vaccaro and other single action revolvers as well as other guns that they. They've been selling for a long time, frankly, because they haven't been selling much at all. So Ruger plans to finish its current Black Hawk Super Black Hawk. Black Hawk.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Did you say Black Hawk?
Savage (manual, reviewed): I think I did. And single series production runs by the end of 2026. While Bearcat production stops immediately, the Wrangler and Super Wrangler will continue. That will leave just two single action revolver lines in regular. The cuts go beyond single actions. The Ruger's also suspending the GP100, SP101, and LCR, now winding down several handgun and rifle lines. They're also going to be
Savage (manual, reviewed): cutting things like, let me see, what was it, the SR1911, LC carbine, PC charger, that got fucking cut twice now, PC carbine, LC charger. Red Hawk, Super Red Hawk, Black Hawk, all the Black Hawks. Single Series Revolvers, Vic Haro, number one. Series 77 rifles. Man, those ones were probably not selling a lot. Hawkeye and Ruger Precision rifles. So they're just cutting a lot of shit that
Savage (manual, reviewed): just hasn't been selling. And, you know, but a lot of the mainstays are still staying strong. They've still got the LCP family, RX-M, Max 9, Security 380, Security 9, Ruger F7 Mark IV, 22 Charger, American Rifle, American Rimfire, Ruger Precision Rimfire, Harrier 1022, and the Mini-14 are still going strong.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): am
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): actually surprised that they're still making the Mini-14 because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Savage (manual, reviewed): can't sell the goddamn things.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There's
Savage (manual, reviewed): so many of them around, though.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Right, but I get the drop in a lot of the revolvers. I mean, I swear to God, I mean, pistol to revolver at this point now is probably 101 what I sell.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I believe it. Dude, I'm kind of sad actually about the Vaccaro and the LC carbine and the PC carbine and...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): PC carbine I was surprised on. Oh, and the Ruger Precision.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Ruger Precision, well...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): problem is, it's just a Ruger American in a chassis. Really?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, and they're fucking great and very cost-effective.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not a Ruger American in a chassis. The chassis is part of the action,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's a different design. But there are rumors that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): might
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be
Nick (reference, not reviewed): replacing it with a Ruger American in a chassis.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Savage (manual, reviewed): actually have a Ruger 77
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): series.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Bolt action rifle. Well, I got into it with somebody on that on Instagram or something where somebody was like, I can't believe they're getting rid of, you know, like the M77. And I was like, why? I'm like, a Ruger American is more accurate than like 95% of rifles, 99% of rifles that came out of the 60s and 70s. Like if you took a Remington 700 from 1968. And you took a Ruger American. The Ruger American will whoop the shit out of it.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Hands down. Every fucking time. And most people don't want or need a $5,000 custom fucking rifle. They want to go deer home with the son of a bitch. As long as it can hit a pie plate at 100 yards, they're happy. And they do way better than that. Mechanically, they're far more accurate. They're one MOA, generally. And it's just... I'm like, and it's 500 bucks or 600 bucks. Like,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I mean, you get a fucking, the new Glenfields, which is just an old Gen 1 Ruger American, but they're like 450 bucks and will outshoot most people that get behind them. Like, nobody needs, you buy an M77 nowadays because it's pretty. You buy the 70s and the 700s and the da-da-da-da-da because you like the classic look of it. You don't buy it because it's like a better gun because it's not anymore.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's just not.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, as long as they're making the RXM, I think they'll be okay.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): They finally came out with a polymer frame gun that wasn't weird. And it's just a Glock clone.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, it's kind of weird. And it sucks that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually looking at this. I wonder if this thing is. It's a slightly improved Glock clone, let's be honest.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, at least it's not a straight up Glock clone.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Nick (reference, not reviewed): were like, hey, we took the Glock and we made it a little bit better.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was looking to see if this STK200 was a cassette style. It is not. It is just a Glock 3
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): -ish.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Glock 3-ish. I don't want to be unfair.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): E
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): -ish. What else you got, Sav?
Savage (manual, reviewed): That's the end of my shit.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Everyone, you should sign up for Second Call Defense
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because do
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you think that Oregon is going to go after this father that stopped the school shooting? I imagine in some ways that his life will be harder, that they'll charge him with something. Like he clearly broke the law. Obviously, they're going to want to hold him accountable. Because they can't hold the school shooter accountable and they probably wouldn't anyway because you know what? He had a tough life. But this white privilege motherfucker that went into that school with a gun and shot that kid in the school with a gun, that's how it would be prevented by Gun Violence
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Archive or whatever their stupid name is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Even
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): though he ended the threat and saved countless lives, they are going to go after him.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did the right thing. He did the heroic thing. But he may find himself In legal trouble. And that's what second call defense is for. 15 bucks a month, man. If he had paid 15 bucks a month, he would have an attorney. He would be covered in so many different ways. And I think that's important. So second call defense.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That's got to be political suicide for any DA that tries to bring charges against him. do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all the time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know, but like something that high profile and you're the one that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Go in front of a jury.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fuck that. Like, oh my God. Are you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jury in Oregon? You think they're going to side with that guy?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): literally had a mistrial for Lindsay Clancy, who admitted to murdering her three children.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): these fucking jurors. to throw that guy in jail, we riot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to try.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to try. You should riot in Ohio.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): meant go there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Nick (reference, not reviewed): should definitely. By the way, kind of off topic, but did you guys see what happened in the comments over here?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I did. Why don't you go ahead and.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I thought this was very cool. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Shawn mentioned, Gideon Optics over there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did, in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fact, agree to give somebody credit towards an optic if they won. And Jay West,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): our
Nick (reference, not reviewed): buddy from Mac Bros Podcast won.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he went ahead and was like, hey, does anybody not have a Gideon optic?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he ended up giving it to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): somebody
Nick (reference, not reviewed): else in the live chat who has not gotten one yet.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Ragnar the Odinson.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Dude,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's fucking amazing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): very cool.
Savage (manual, reviewed): Gideon is the fucking best.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jaywith
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is awesome. Yeah, and I definitely thought that that should be recognized and that we should plug him.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Mac bros. M-A-C-B-R-O-Z on the Firearms Radio Network.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Sign up for Second Call Defense. WeLikeShooting.com slash SCD will take you there. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): absolutely
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): worth it. Absolutely worth it. Even if no jury will do something, he will very likely need an attorney
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's Oregon.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Bunch
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of commies. Jeremy,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hear the reviews.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Anonymous. Jeremy, you're muted. My blood has not boiled, thereby inducing road rage while listening to the podcast in many months. This is because I have not listened to shirt money stealing Aaron and Jeremy fight and trifle over utter nonsense. Our wives and girlfriends are more safe from getting hit on without him. I would, however, like to hear from Aaron when he finishes writing his book, which I presume is titled, I Know Why the Caged Jew Sings, or perhaps he... Where the fuck did that go? Are
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you on the wrong? No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Am
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I on the wrong notes? I guess.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): episode
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 685. Why did it just blank out of existence?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Holy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Like I had three different ones and then I refreshed and now there's two of the same, but one different one.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Or perhaps he has changed the title to Mine Autobus Campfin. Translation, My Struggle Bus.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Five squares, no notes. P.S. Drombe, look up how to say the N-word in sign language. You must do this on air. P.P.S., Aaron, if you have been fired again and need help editing your resume, I'd be happy to help for the low, low price of one firearm transfer.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Isn't that like $1,000?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Actually, I think Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): free from Aaron.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah, that's right, because how dare anyone charge for that? Hey, Jeremy,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me ask you this question.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): still so confused by what happened.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): happened where?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): With the reviews, how like one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know. have three. Anonymous Coward from Georgia, Anonymous Coward from Montana, and Anonymous.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I also have three, but I had the second two and then one after that, but not the first one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh, I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Anyway.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And then you did something and it like reset my page and sent me up to the top. All I did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is refresh my page.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Well, I don't know what the fuck you did.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if you could
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): figure out the code and figure out what's going on, that would help me a lot.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I never learned to code.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Learn to code, bitch.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): go work on a fucking oil rig before I do that. Me too. Anonymous Coward from Georgia. Three things that make a good podcaster. One, look like Savage. Don't show your face. Two, sound like Dooley. Three, have the tism like Jeremy. You know what?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Good
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): points. Very
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): points. I should have said, sound like Dooley.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): There you go.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Got
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sound
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): eating
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): words. I'm just a big guy, and I sound like I got to talk from the back of my throat. It's almost like Randy Savage is getting ass fucked.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Macho man.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't think I can write
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that tell you something, Gene.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I can't write that one down. Mean Gene Okerlund.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hurt. Yeah. I'll read the next one like Dooley. Anonymous coward from Montana. It's official. The listeners of the Reloading Podcast have decided that anyone who blindly supports the government is a cuck. Uh-huh.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dude, it's crazy that talking like Dooley actually physically hurts Jeremy.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And Dooley talks like that every day. Yeah. Skill issue.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's just how tough he is.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that third one I don't understand. The listeners, and they sent this to We Like Shooting because the only way to get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): reviews.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the three guys that listen to the Reloading Podcast have decided that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The Reloading Podcast is one of the bigger ones on the Firearms Radio Network.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm just giving them shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just want to clarify the record. Yeah, anyway, they said that the listeners of the Reloading Podcast have decided that anyone who blindly supports the government is a cuck.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thank you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and it says Anonymous Coward, so someone texted that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Huh. Jeremy, pick a winner. Pick a wiener.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): first guy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): first guy. There you go. All right. Anonymous. Email automatedwelikeshooting.com and Krista will get you your winnings. For the rest of you, can go to eitherwelikeshooting.com slash dashboard. Click on reviews and leave it there. Or you can text your name and review to 743-500-2171. And we will try to make you the winner, but you got to come hard.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wait,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what? What? Are we not doing phrasing anymore? No, we're not. If you would like to buy a suppressor that works really fucking good, go check out Bowers Group.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Man,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we've talked about the first 375, the War Dog K9, like so many good ones just depending on your application. And the best part about it is if you're not sure, just go hit up Tom. Like send him an email, call him, and Tom and Dorothy will answer all your questions, give you the best advice, even if. It's not one of their cans, and I think that's huge. So bowersgroup.com, coupon code WLS. We'll save you some money. Join Gun Owners of America.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Gunowners.org slash WLS. GOA just keeps killing it. They're doing such good work for us as gun owners, and you owe them a membership for all the good that they've been doing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't say that lightly either. Like, I don't think we owe anybody for anything, but they've just been doing such a great job.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): If you'd like to support the show, you can go to agency171.com, read about it, find out about it, and decide if it's worth it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hope to see you there. If not, totally understand. I still appreciate you listening a lot. Suicide Prevention Line, we need all the patriots here to fight with us against the evil powers of the left. If you're struggling, you don't have to do it by yourself. You can text or call 988 from your phone.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that, my friends, is going to do it for this episode of Your Favorite Gun Podcast, obviously. We like shooting. I hope that you have a great fucking week.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hope to see you at some training sometime soon.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Either
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): way,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): choose
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. Nick loves you. Savage loves you. Jeremy would like to love on you. And I just really appreciate your time.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): make
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck on me? No, I make fuck on you.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That shit was awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do I stop the show? I forgot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): podcast has been a production of the Firearms Radio Network.