Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Keep listening for a discount. Would you know what to do if someone was seriously injured? Civilian Medical One offers realistic online trauma training built for everyday people. Be ready to act when seconds count. Visit civmedical.com, c-i-v-medical.com, and use code FRN for a discount. Shawn
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): episode of We Like Shooting is brought to you by Foxtrot Mike, Gideon Optics, Medical Gear Outfitters, night vision bowers group flatline fiber co second call defense and sean's modular penis
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): erin and jeremy too savage and nick bringing it to you talking guns and having fun we like shooting we're out of control some we like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shooting welcome to we like shooting episode 679 we got the four the quattro amigos here we got nick lynch from bus bill systems we got jeremy pozderick from rivers edge tactical in ohio go visit right machine guns go uh check out some of nick shirts over at bus built systems savage one r bringing us the news talking about the stuff that you know matters out there in the universe or at least the stuff that matters to him i mean that's good either way my name is sean heron i'll be here with the gang hanging
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): out chilling drinking uh some cayman jack strawberry margarita
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you're
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is drinking ah he's got some montucky cold snacks i love those
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): know
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): pbr or something
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they are they're actually really tasty
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't know if these are actually made
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know either because i've had the only place i've ever had them is here and iowa
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what pbr
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no uh the montucky cold snacks
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh lacrosse wisconsin founded in bozeman
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm guessing
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's not really a montana beer that's not
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy you said you were sore
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): making how many fucking pounds
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tomatoes into sauce
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so yeah 90 pounds of tomatoes um well just shy just shy of 90 pounds like probably like 85 86 pounds um 90 sounds cooler um but uh we've been chopping and freezing tomatoes for a couple of weeks now as they've been coming out of the garden um so about like these gallon plastic jugs and we've been quartering them and stuffing them in there and freezing them so today was like the day to to do canning
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so we pulled them out thawed them out put them i got a big 24 quart stainless steel pot filled that up
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): them down hit them with immersion blender
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh then
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): put them through a food mill i don't know if you know what a food mill is no it's a way to separate the meat of a tomato from the skins and seeds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): food mill gets rid of the skins and some of the seeds and then you got to do it again to get rid of most of the seeds
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh so we had a food mill what essentially is like i was probably like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): nine gallons of red tomato juice water and then like yeah i had like two pots going i had this big one and a smaller one um like a six gallon and a three gallon pot going and then cooked them down enough that i could put them together in the big pot and then cook that down even further i ended up with 16 quarts um all when it was all said and done and uh and then i was pressure canning it as the right before the last show
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): started um and i just pulled the lid off the pressure canner after it came back down to pressure or to atmospheric pressure and uh now the jars are just cooling and the lids are popping so something something went right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's so awesome because you know that will last you a few months what like six months
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah probably it was tomatoes from our garden oregano from our garden parsley from our garden basil from our garden uh onions from our garden and the garlic i got from a friend of mine who grows a shit ton more he just grows a shit ton of garlic um so like everything in the
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): than like salt and pepper everything else we either grew or a friend of ours grew it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking awesome and seriously so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 16 quarts you know that's that's um that's four
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gallons of
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sauce essentially
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so much we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lost we ate it we actually ate a quart for dinner tonight just to try it and then um we i lost a quart because two of the jars cracked um putting the sauce in them which shouldn't have done because they were Hot out of the oven and the sauce was hot in the pot.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So like they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): were, they were close to the same temperature and they still just shattered. Two of them just shattered when I put the hot sauce in them. And I was like, what the fuck? And I even had them on a towel. They weren't directly on the counter. Like I did everything fucking right. And they still,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it'll be fine though. Just like scoop it all back, you know, scoop it off the counter and just put it in a new jar and you'll be fine.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yes. Tomatoes have enough acid to not be pressure canned, but my water bath can. canner uh only holds seven quarts and my pressure canner will hold 20 quarts so it's a lot easier to just do it all in one shot than to have to water bath can in separate batches
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was just trying to make a joke about you eating the
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no outlaw asked that or uh dr scary guy asked don't tomatoes have enough acid to not need pressure canning yes they do but i have a very big pressure can i have the biggest pressure canner that uh american all american pressure canners or whatever it is uh makes it's a 41 and a half quart pressure canner um and i can do up to 20 quarts at a pop of whatever the fuck i want to do like if you can water
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): bath it you can also pressure can it um and the processing time is a lot less and if you want to you can actually put meat in the sauce pre canning instead of having to make it when you make it and then you just have like meat sauce and can pressure can that and it's it's all copacetic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it sounds fucking crazy those big pressure canners are expensive right
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was 600 bucks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah that's what i thought
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah but um
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): thing i learned when i was a kid and my dad told me one time or no it my dad's buddy told me one time he goes you could turn a big welder down and weld small things you can't turn a little welder up and weld big things
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he goes to get the biggest fucking welder that you'll ever need and then you never need another one i was like
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not wrong yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): seriously so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i just i just pulled the lid off of it nothing broke on the inside water was clear jars are good lids are sucking down so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just crazy to me like you know because a lot of people are like oh look i grew some basil in my you know outdoor garden but like you guys are you guys are doing it
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bulk
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is awesome it's so cool for your kids because a they're like seeing you guys do all this work you you and your wife and you know they get to be a part of it they get to eat all the delicious stuff that you guys make and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like they'll fucking
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): eat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they get to see you like take it straight from the garden to the kitchen to the dinner table
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah that's well that's that's like you know is it cheaper to raise all the animals that we raise and have them butchered and yada yada yada no i mean it's not it's not like much cheaper it's a little cheaper just because i sell the excess and i can make a little bit of money doing that but you know and it just kind of pays for us to have it it doesn't really like make a lot of money yeah um
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then my kids get to see where food comes from they know that when we have bacon for breakfast like this came from a pig like this is a pig yeah dad what part of the pig is the bacon and like it's the belly oh okay um i think we as a society have gotten far too far away from
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): actual food
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and we've been hearing you talk about this stuff for like fucking years to be able to see you actually put it into place and to like see the pictures of the gardens and tomatoes and just like all the stuff you're it's fucking awesome
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): took
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): picture of my wife
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): she was
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like stirring
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): big pot of tomatoes and i sent it to a buddy of mine who does a lot of canning and he goes oh putting the work in i said yeah i said it took seven years to get the settings right but this automatic stirrer i bought
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh working out really well it's doing good
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): freaking awesome jeremy's gonna get fucking poisoned to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): death i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking told my wife i said that right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): after i said it and she laughed
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): got a new we got
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a new dishwasher because uh well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): we actually got a new
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): countertop sink and dishwasher like all at the same time and um
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was at work and i said something like oh we got a new dishwasher it's getting delivered today and my manager goes i didn't know you got divorced and remarried
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): told my wife that she was like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): she's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like god i hate your friends
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh all right well let's get into it uh this
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): title sponsor is foxtrot mike in the last show in uh dear wls this week someone asked about they want a seven He's got some 7.62x39 ammo. He wants a 7.62x39 gun. It's not like an AR or an AK. And I suggested the Ranch Rifle because Foxtrot Mike does have those in 7.62x39. And it really made me think that, holy shit, I need to pick one of those up. So I went and looked. It looks like they're about a grand. I can use our coupon code WLS's Life, which is going to save me
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): money.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I could
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): probably get one sent to me, but I don't really have a purpose for it. I just think that would actually be a pretty fun, like kind of scout rifle or, you know, truck gun
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it were
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, yeah, that would
Nick (reference, not reviewed): be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sweet.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Literally a ranch rifle. So yeah, they're out there. You can go take a look at all the ranch rifles. Quite a few of them in stock right now, actually they generally sell out very fast. So if you've been thinking about a ranch rifle, you may want to go take a look right now. Cause there's some really good deals going on on those. And again, if you go to, like shooting.com slash sponsors, click on foxtrot mike and use our code wls's life you'll be able to save some money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all right it's time for some gear chat that's where we talk about stuff that we have want need i'm going to start off
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nikolai dunschkov
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): borchowski
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what was that uh fucking wrestler nikolai
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you remember
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the russian one yeah
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it batikov or something like that
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't remember
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that sucks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick what you got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): let's see let's start with this one um fierce firearms i don't if you guys are familiar with them
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i don't know a whole lot about the company
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): didn't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we talk about these last week
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think so i just put it did we
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): maybe you just told us about that maybe you told me about it after the show
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): oh i think i think so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i think you told me about it but maybe not on the show um sorry to interrupt
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're good uh
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): this is the the fierce firearms they have a new rifle out called the wingman
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): some of you guys might be aware i like dumb things and i like
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): guns um
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): like short barrels you know
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): pistols
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a good thing you like short barrels since you have one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): maybe that's why maybe it's because my barrel is so long and inconvenient to deal with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it just really you know um so you really like that new celtic right
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't feel the need to compensate i guess but
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guess so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a big boy am a real big boy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah they came out with this rifle the wingman um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a 12 and a half inch barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): bolt action rifle so of course it is an sbr it comes in uh 22 arc six arc and uh or not arc um creedmore
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): creedmore six creedmore and uh six uh six five creedmore
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think it comes in 22 creedmoor 25 creedmoor and 6.5 creedmoor god damn it
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i just really butchered that one didn't i um
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): 22 creedmoor 25 creedmoor
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh 6.5 creedmoor i always forget that 25 creedmoor is a thing
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): too
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): so my mind just jumps up to six mil but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i think that these are pretty neat five a little over five pounds um was it 5.3 so pretty lightweight it's got a carbon wrapped barrel um they are advertising half moa accuracy
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): also sell hand loads um
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): tuned for these rifles it works out to be like four bucks a shot or something so it's not something that you're going to want to shoot a lot of
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh if you don't reload and don't have the ability to work up your own load
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): it might be
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of thing where you go shoot something cheaper and then have that that you like
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): know shoot enough to get your
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): your dope and get sighted in and then use it for hunting or whatever
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah anyway
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is cool fucking five pounds like i want that yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think these are pretty neat um
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): grand price tag which is pretty spendy um these fall into that like semi-custom territory
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): where i guess you wouldn't really like call it full-on custom because you're not calling and telling them like these are The things that I want. Um, but it's a, you know, it's a,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, sorry. Is that playing?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I'm sorry. Uh, but they're,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're a higher end bolt action tier, I guess is what they're at here. I,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have never even seen one of these in person, so I don't know how good they are. Uh, I have not heard a lot about them. So like personally, I have no, no knowledge,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they look great. Um, the, uh, The specs and everything
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): seem
Nick (reference, not reviewed): solid on them and they're,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know, positioned as a higher end rifle. So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I don't know. I will probably, this is something that I could not afford, but I do think is very cool. And I think it's awesome to see
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): little
Nick (reference, not reviewed): SBRs like this because
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): love them.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Totally agree. I think these are cool. And now, like literally for SBRs, no reason not to have one. there's no well for some people some places in some situations there's no form four or not form four what's the form for an sbi
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): form one form one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): well form four if you buy from a shop form one if you make it yourself there you go yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so no no two hundred dollars no
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): registration
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think it's cool and fuck a hunting rifle that's five pounds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): super short and handy like 12 and a half inches and then you have your full-size suppressor on the end of that thing and it's still
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know under 20 inches
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're hot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): three grand doesn't seem like it seems in line with like what this kind of stuff costs
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it it's out of my tax bracket
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't think it's an insane price
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you see they have 2011s as well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): did they have some uh sidebuyer uh over unders as well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and some
Nick (reference, not reviewed): suppressors
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 500 bucks it looks like for those oh yeah so some pressers too
Nick (reference, not reviewed): let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they've got all kinds of stuff and i i was not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): familiar
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with them previously
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): same i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think before you told me about them i've ever heard of them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they've actually got like a good website and it looks like they have good content i they just like went under my radar until you brought them up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh yeah the the way that i to to be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fully
Nick (reference, not reviewed): transparent here the way that i uh became aware of them is that a buddy of mine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): went to went to work for him that's he was like hey check these out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these
Nick (reference, not reviewed): seem like something you'd like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i was like holy shit that is something that i like um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i uh i think these look pretty neat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i totally agree
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think they're cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think this is exactly what you've been talking about wanting for like 10 years
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah now
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that the sbr stuff is easier
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i would like to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do
Nick (reference, not reviewed): some sort of sbr i was kind of looking at um i've been kind of looking at how is
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): six arc
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just cut the barrel off at like the end of the stock and put a can on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're cheap and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): reviews
Nick (reference, not reviewed): seem to be eh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Nick (reference, not reviewed): terrible maybe yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i hope i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hope you get to shoot one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is this is pretty sweet though
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i totally agree
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is uh what are they saying in the chat no chat on the screen because live chat means nothing no no chat on the screen because it makes the clips that we publish like fucking weird and sometimes they're over our faces and like i guess i could put it over savage's face
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): always over my face
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well because not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): our face my
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just a you know you're what is that what game is that from
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the pyro
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): team fortress 2
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i i do want to keep people to keep in mind that his neighborhood did just burn down
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just fyi
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): coincidence
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well i'm yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hug muffin says he just got his cnr ffl bracing himself for glorious financial ruination
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wait
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can you guys hear me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah travis
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): said he can't hear me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think he's just sad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got seasonal affective disorder what else do you have to talk about nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um this uh this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a high point
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mounted on a SIG.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you have my attention.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, on my 229 here,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have my High Point Hush 45.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think you're muted now.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh, yeah, now he's muted. He's shaking his head.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Travis said, I see your lips moving, but I cannot hear the words coming out of your poop mouth.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): no i wasn't the suppressor is just so effective that you guys couldn't hear me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so this is the uh the hush point 45 i don't think it's gonna keep focused but that's okay uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's a 45 acp pistol can
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right at the moment i have it mounted on my sig 229
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): has been a pretty fun suppressor host
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see i bought this i did i did buy this um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): bought this like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): may
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a week ago finally got the paperwork submitted
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nice
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): already got approved it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): been uh it's yeah i we submitted the paperwork on friday and it got approved on monday
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dang um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it was literally just sitting waiting for me to get paperwork done
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh yeah so finally got finally got that done
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um i'd i'd been able to shoot a couple rounds through it but not like a whole lot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): but i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): brought it home and got it set up on the sig and also on the glock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i've been shooting it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know in the backyard because i don't have to worry about annoying my neighbors when i shoot suppressed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah it's been
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): been pretty good it's very quiet uh it is it is kind of hefty you know like it's a it is not a compact can
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no it's pretty
Nick (reference, not reviewed): big
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it have a booster on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yes it does
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay cool
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so that is my biggest complaint
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): does not come with a booster it comes with two um fixed mounts for half 28 and then i can never remember what the the 45 threaded uh pitch is it's like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): five
Nick (reference, not reviewed): seven eight by something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): five
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seven by 28
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i i can never remember what yeah it comes with two two fixed mounts um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): works if you're mounting them on a high point pistol
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they have a fixed barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if you're putting them on a carbine or something but it doesn't really work on a tilting
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): browning action pistol so uh yeah so you have to buy the booster and everything separately um that really sucks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): my opinion but uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): guess it keeps the cost of the can down a little bit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i got a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a rugged
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): booster
Nick (reference, not reviewed): assembly to put in here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and then i got that the actual piston that i'm using i think i've talked about this before i got the griffin um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the easy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): lock or the cam lock i can't remember the the one that does not have the interrupted threads
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and i ended up going that route
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's the easy lock uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): okay yeah so it's the it's the easy lock um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): went this route because i started looking at what it was going to cost to put pistons on different guns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i was going to need at least three different pistons
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and that adds up pretty fast and it's also a pain in the ass to take the gun apart
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or i mean to take the uh excuse me to take the suppressor apart and have to swap that thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): over
Nick (reference, not reviewed): every time you want to shoot on a different gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i didn't want to deal with that so uh i was able to find some used stuff on gaffs
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nice
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um i was able to find the uh the muzzle adapters that thread onto the pistol so i bought the piston um and then the uh almost all of the muzzle devices i've been able to buy used and i've gotten them much cheaper and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): at some point it will cost me more than buying pistons but it has not yet so that's cool uh so that might be something to look into if you're getting into a pistol can um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so i've been shooting this in the backyard and it's been a ton of fun uh i think that it is like the first it's got a little bit of a first round podcast. But it's not too bad. And then after that, it's pretty quiet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm very happy with it. It's a cool setup, man. Yeah, yeah. It's a ton of fun. It's a great little host. And then, yeah, the can I couldn't be happier with. It's been
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): ton of fun. and like i said i i live in an area where like i can
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): go shoot in the backyard but i always feel like a dick if i'm shooting more than just a little bit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because i i do have neighbors that'll go out and shoot like a couple hundred rounds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's just really annoying on like sunday afternoon when you're trying to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): relax
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or you know whatever
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that makes sense
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um anyway so i just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i try not to do it very much um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): to be polite
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh yeah having having the the suppressor on the can now or excuse me the suppressor on the can having the can on the on the pistol now means that it's another thing that i can shoot in the yard along with the 22 and a couple of the rifles but um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see it looks like uh msrp's 450 these are going for 420 on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): blaze.com is that exclusively
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): where they're sold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not i don't think so i got this so i bought this through high point um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was able to get a industry price on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know if i'm supposed to say that or not but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sure it's fine i got it so um so yeah i did not pay full price i don't remember exactly what i paid because like i said it was months ago um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't know if i'm supposed to talk about that part but uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah uh even at 400 bucks i think
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a pretty good deal
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 45 can even
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah and even without the the booster like you're gonna spend i ended up spending probably another 150 bucks on the booster and muzzle devices
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think most pistol suppressors if they come with like the booster and everything they only come with one piston right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you'd still have to buy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yes other
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pistons typically
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i mean if i was just buying one piston and one booster i probably could have done it a little cheaper and been closer to 100 bucks but um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i uh i am pretty happy with this thing and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now
Nick (reference, not reviewed): my biggest source of irritation is that i have to take it off to put it on other stuff um direct thread
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): maybe yeah maybe i'll go
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): end
Nick (reference, not reviewed): up selling all the griffin stuff and going direct thread and just buying multiple cans
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh we'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is the way to go but it's also like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sick of that shit no it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i couldn't be happier with it um as a as a first like general purpose um pistol can it's it's pretty good i think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and not as big as some other 45 cans it's rated for 30 super carry 380 9 mil 40 smith wesson 10 mil and 45 auto and then rifle is 300 blackout subs only and 5.7
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i have an asp but it is uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): boosterless
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you kind of have to like tune the gun to it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so it's it's on my project 1911 uh which has been like a nice hobby because i pull it out every once in a while and spend like a day and a half working on it and then i put it away
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um someday it'll be done but i'm not in a rush to get there i'm just i'm just enjoying
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): enjoying
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the ride
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): awesome uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like a like an old man with a classic car right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh so yeah someday that will be set up and that will be the asp the bowers asp will just live on that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): permanently and that can's awesome
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it weighs like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): seven
Nick (reference, not reviewed): ounces or something six ounces i i it it you can't tell that it's on the end of the gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): comes in a little nylon pouch and the other day i grabbed the nylon pouch out of the safe to grab something else and set it on top of the safe and i was like what the fuck what is the can not in there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because i got scared because it was like so light it just felt like it was just the little pouch it was it was in there it just doesn't weigh anything
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and uh to travis out there what's the cost of a metal 3d printer to make cans i don't know but if everybody wants to contribute we can start printing some out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a hundred grand for the the worst one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't jeremy you looked it up before what was that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the metal 3d
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): printer. This
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is the powder centering one, I think. Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, there's a few different kinds, but yeah. Um, like the cost of it. Yeah. Oh, it was like 3 million or something. No, it was not that to buy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the machine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one that we were looking at was not that expensive.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, yeah. But that wasn't, that wouldn't do what we wanted it to do either. Um, God, I don't remember. That was a long time ago i thought it was like it was
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a lot of 75 75
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to 100 i think uh maybe i don't remember that was a long time ago i know that there was one oh no you know what i'm thinking of a guy that i know has a metal 3d printer and i asked him why it was so fucking expensive just to get prototypes made and he's like it's cheaper to buy 200 of them because that's how many the deck will hold it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): cheaper
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): for me to make you 200 of them than it is for me to make you one of them yeah um he goes because his machine was uh i think 1.5 million
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): crazy dude
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what i'm thinking of yeah it's it's not cheap
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i don't think the little one i was looking at would do what we wanted either
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy for those that don't know so nick mentioned the booster and he mentioned the browning action can you explain what a booster does and why pistols generally need them and rifles do not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the browning tilt lock which is what most firearms um that you know and love or most handguns or should say pistols that you know and love is the barrel does this and goes up and down as sean is pointing out and when it closes you'll notice the barrel pop up and lock into the slide very if you get it real close and go just a little bit and watch the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): up
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): down up anyways so that's a tilt lock um the the 1911 used lot lugs in the front of the in the barrel just forward of the chamber uh modern guns just use the slide itself and the chamber itself
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's a tilt lock um that's a tilt lock barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): problem is your barrel actually angles upward when when the when the barrel unlocks and it tilts i.e the chamber drops down and the muzzle comes up when you hang a suppressor which is just a big goddamn weight and more leverage out on the front of that gun you have created a geometric problem that it wasn't designed for you've slowed down the reciprocation of the slide by adding more weight to that tilt
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what a pooster
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): piston
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): booster or nielsen device whichever you want to call it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is it's a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a spring inside the back of your suppressor that's threaded onto the barrel when you shoot the gases that come up behind the bullet actually throw the suppressor forward on this spring which kind of floats it off the end of the barrel and it allows the barrel to go
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then it springs back into place really quick so it takes the weight of the can because you've thrown it essentially off the barrel quote unquote um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you've
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): thrown the weight forward off the barrel it allows the barrel to tilt and lock because you know the slide's really quick it doesn't have it doesn't take long so the spring is just enough that it throws the weight of the can off the barrel it tilts it locks back into place the spring snaps back and you're ready for the second shot and it's just to overcome the extra drag of having a weight and a and a lever out in front of your barrel essentially
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anything
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to add nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): muted oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he's got one
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that that is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's more or less what happens the can comes off the front of the gun um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that the the weight isn't hanging off of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): barrel anymore and then the spring pulls it back
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now in some of my videos you'll see me shooting boosters on rifles
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you can't do that with all of them in fact many of them it will destroy them break them and you'll be fucked however a lot of the aklis defense uh that's the boosters that i have his shit is like unbreakable undestroyable and so i don't even bother taking the booster off when i switch that can from a pistol to a rifle just because they're awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not gonna it's not gonna break most of them but it's gonna wear that fucking spring out way quick it. Then it would. Otherwise, with with sub guns, you generally have a higher rate of fire. You have more rounds. You have sometimes more velocity because of longer barrels. And you're just going to work that spring with for no reason. the other part is like a pistol with a fixed barrel like a lot of 22s
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): or like a Bursa Thunder 380 where the barrel is pressed into the frame
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): doesn't there is no reciprocation you know there is no tilt lock you don't need a booster
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): only need it I don't even think you need a booster on a rotating on a rotating barrel don't hold me to that but I don't believe on most rotating locking barrels because it it's not extra that's not it's just it doesn't just it just doesn't fuck with how it works as much
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the only one that i have is like a grand power excalibur i think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god those are
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so fucking cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): getting the barrel back in that son of a bitch is a pain in the dick i've taken that gun apart once
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i've taken it apart um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i took i took the one that i had on loan i had to send mine back though
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): unfortunately that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sucks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but i took that thing apart and back together like five times just because i wanted to get good at it and it was so frustrating it's like taking a mark three apart it's just you get mad every time you're doing and you're like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): why
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): does it say paper to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): jump when there is no paper jam you know it's one of those
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um it's almost like a fucking and then it goes click and falls in and you go oh how'd i do that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly can't recreate it so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): annoying
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah like the the little barrettas the little uh i mean even though it's like a little flip barrel where you can load it from the back that barrel doesn't doesn't tilt under fire so like those are fine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just it's really just tilt lock barrels which but that's most uh because john moses browning was a fucking genius that's most of the the the handguns that we use nowadays so yeah generally speaking if it's still like bro you need a booster to make it function properly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): excellent
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all right let's do this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): talk about our friends over at gideon optics so i noticed that they released something new and i think that they're the first ones to market with this specific thing so you've heard us talk about the valor mini i fucking love that that red dot and it is an enclosed emitter red dot small rmsc cut and they just released a version that is that fits the glock gen 6 uh without plates without adapters anything it is a valor mini specifically for a glock gen 6 cut
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on on a red dot now i don't know exactly if
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is still going on but this weekend they had uh 25 off plus for the first 50 orders you get a free suppressor
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so they gave away 50 suppressors with orders over the weekend which is pretty freaking awesome um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah i talk often about them and out innovating just about any everyone out there and literally i think they're the first ones to market with the gen six specific cut uh optic which is crazy like crazy um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i am not aware of anybody else
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): same so they're like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me just unblur my tabs here real quick i think right now it's 247.99 for the gen 6 valor mini and the first 50 get a suppressor yeah i was bob gideon optic said be right back i'll see if there's any left but i doubt it um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): totally
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): understand i saw the email today and i was like holy shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): free
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): suppressor
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but yeah they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have these out there they're right now uh we talk about getting optics all the freaking time but the valor mini one of my favorite one of my favorite red dots in general i have one right here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you can see it's on this uh ea cmx triple x and just fits that nice little rmsc looks beautiful up top there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now they've got them for the guac gen 6 which has like you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually looks like a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a pretty complicated cut
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got you know a little uh hip in the front and yeah all the here i can actually put it on screen hold on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's got like a lug or something in there and yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of interesting yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So yeah, that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cool that they've got the direct mount.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I agree. And I think they're the first ones to market with a specific
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that. So very cool. If you're looking for a red dot, rifle scope, LVPO, or I'm sorry, LPVO, you can go check out Gideon Optics. Well, I'll tell you this. Go to WeLikeShooting.com slash sponsors, click on Gideon Optics and use coupon code WLS's life to save money. i also noticed that they've got uh any order over 200 bucks free shipping so just like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): literally saving all of your money to put it back in your pocket so that you can go sign up for the agency or you know like feed your family whatever i don't know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know what people do so go check them out for anything that you're looking for guinean optics
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): awesome
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): oh hold on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me read what he says here he says be a dozen free suppressor coupons to go at least
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gang free suppressor let me take a look at this so it is a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): also
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): receive a backdraft suppressor gift card towards one backdraft hunter four inch aluminum suppressor hub adapter required sold separately for blah blah blah it's blanked out i can't see it thank you youtube and here i'll do this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hub adapter is 69.99
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it looks like there's some left dude Dude, fucking free suppressor, bro. GideonOptics.com.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you go.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hope that I have made your day better.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sure it's on everyone's mind because, oh, my God, my phone has blown up about it. I've gotten messages on every social media thing. I've responded to 774 social media comments about it in the last few days. Is that it? Yeah. one of our youtube channels got deleted by youtube for community guidelines violations
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so i don't want
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ending and why
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't want this to be uh you know like a hunting story that's that's not what i'm after here but i would like to tell you guys the whole story and everything that happened and like you know just all the all the behind the scenes stuff that like nobody ever gets to hear uh this was covered by ben steger on his channel which was kind of crazy i literally
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): angel
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was out with some friends uh she went to the garth brooks concert she asked if i wanted to go obviously and i was like i would rather fucking shoot myself
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i did not go and uh so i was home alone and i was like i'm gonna go make some popcorn and watch a show on the patio so i walk into the kitchen i turn on i pull up youtube just for some background noise while i'm making some popcorn and i see ben stoker has a ben steger has a new video so i click it and then i walk out to go grab something out of the living room
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like 10 seconds into the video i hear ben say something about we like shooting and i was like oh my god what the fuck did we do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was like fucking jeremy got caught saying the n-word again here we go it's game over and uh no he was just covering like what had happened and uh all positive so we didn't get sigged or t-rexed thank god um and then paul from legally armed america did a bunch of posting about it i got calls from everyone in the universe john crump iraq veteran 88 88 jared from guns and gadgets patent from the gun collective hank
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): strange braden langley like just fucking i know i'm forgetting uh tundra tactical like i know i'm forgetting people uh leviathan group called me at one point um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like yo what the fuck so what had happened was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): talked about this on the show for the last few weeks but our wls podcast which was i'll be honest it's a sacrificial channel because that's where we live streamed the show for a long time and i was like well i don't want to get our bigger channel deleted because of the live streams but then like i just stopped posting on the bigger channel. Cause I was like, well,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not worth it if it's going to get deleted. So we posted on the sacrificial channel, YouTube, it deleted 364 videos in the month of August. We had deleted Krista and between Krista and I probably another 300, 400 videos.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And, uh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I woke up one morning last week and Krista had sent me a screenshot saying that the channel had been deleted and i was like fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking that sucks like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know even though it's a sacrificial channel it sucks to have like you know Our entire backlog just like no longer on the internet. And it, you know, it's frustrating. Obviously there was like 700 fewer videos, but there was still, you know, quite a few out there. But we had deleted most of them that we thought were violative and we had tried to do the right thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so I was like, whatever. So I created a social post just being like, hey, check out how fucked up this is. And it turns out we had deleted all the videos. I think there was six, nine videos still on the channel out of thousands, by the way, there was still nine and we thought that they would be, be good to go. And when I started to look at my email, it looked like they had
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): given
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): us our third strike and it's three strikes channel deleted on a video that we had already deleted.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was like, what the fuck? So I started looking into their community guidelines and their advertiser safe guidelines and stuff. And sure enough in in the documentation it's like uh strikes and community guidelines violations can be issued for deleted videos which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't even know how that works or what the the thinking behind that is but okay well all right got me on that one guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so i posted the thing it blew up um hundreds and hundreds of thousands of views thousands of comments amongst all the social media stuff. And like, people were pretty upset about it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the next day,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, and like my phone was blowing up. Like I was getting texts and calls pretty much for a couple of days straight. So then I got called by my buddy, Chris from Leviathan group. We've been friends for a very long time. We don't work with Leviathan group, but like Chris is a homie, love him. And he was like, Hey, uh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got some movement going and, or actually, I'm sorry, I woke up that morning and I got an email from YouTube community, whatever, saying that the channel that we took a look at it. Some of the stuff is violative, but your channel has been restored and all strikes have been removed,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bro, that never fucking happens. Never happens. Like it just does not happen. A small, that channel has 3,400 subscribers.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just like that is not a thing that exists in the world like you don't small channels like that don't get any attention at all when they get removed so i got that i talked to my buddy chris he said do you want to meet with the youtube guy i talked to the youtube guy who is fucking awesome by the way and like really good guy really understands the challenges that we face and stuff that we go through and you know we just talked about you know here's what i'm doing like I told him about my strike striker program that basically runs through,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gets the community guidelines, runs, you know, voice transcription on everything, uses AI to make sure that all the violative stuff and the websites and all that stuff is removed. And then we upload that. And he was like, yeah, I mean, like you're going above and beyond. That's cool. You guys will be good for a while. And I was like, okay, cool. Now my firearms radio network channel also has two strikes, probably going to get three strikes within the next week and get that deleted and so on and so forth. but you know it was uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wish that it could always be like this i wish that all creators would have a chance to talk to somebody explain the things that they're trying to do to do the right thing to exist on the platform unfortunately that's just not the way it is it's not the way it goes we got very lucky i i didn't even reach out to youtube i filed an appeal they rejected it in an hour and that was the end for me i made a social post angrily and never expected anything else to happen
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just got lucky
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you want to know something every time we talk about this yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um remember bo burnham the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): comedian
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 100
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wrote a song like i don't know 15 20 years ago called uh welcome to youtube back when youtube used to do like uh you know the year end uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know the song well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and and the end of the song and he says it'll go on and on forever until it's privatized
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i was
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like and they fucking sold and he changed hands and it's just like downhill ever since you're like what the fuck guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's it's pretty crazy so yeah like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): happened um um it's really cool that we got the channel back i will i'm actually i feel good enough now to start uploading the show to our main channel um so i think that i think we'll be good there but the point of the story is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): couple things number one everyone's like hey have you considered being on rumble and i was like god damn the first couple i'm like yeah we're on rumble yeah we're on rumble yeah we're on rumble yeah we're on rumble and then i'm like yo motherfuckers we've been on rumble we've been on rumble since it started we have three point One million views on rumble.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we're doing okay over there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): next comment. Have you thought about joining pepper box? Yo, motherfucker. Pepper box is a closed platform. We, we have never been invited on that platform, nor will we be invited on that platform.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Call, call me guys. Right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): platform is a closed platform.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Sure. You want to put us
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on there and pay us. Awesome. Cool. Let's do that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well, yeah, but like that's their platform.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. They're going to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't put other people on their platform and that's, I'm not saying I want to be on that platform or that they should invite us. They should not like that's their platform. It's closed. But the amount of people telling me, have you, have you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): put
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): your, put your stuff on pepper box? Like no motherfucker. That's not even an option. And it's retarded that you're even recommending it. So that was a little bit annoying. Um, but yeah, the frustration is, have you considered being on rumble yet? We've been there since the beginning. We get a fucking ton of views there. but like people don't know. And you know, the reason they don't know is because they're not on rumble. Um, had a bunch of people that were like whining at me saying I was just trying to
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): get attention, which I really wasn't. I was just frustrated and made an angry post about it. Um, let's see.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, we got the channel back. The firearms radio network channel should be protected. Um, and yeah, that's, that's the end of the story. Uh, for i i just never hear about happy endings with youtube so it was uh it was a pleasant departure and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i still honestly can't believe it happened but it should be good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to go they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just edge no no happy endings right you have to go to you have to go to different websites to get the happy endings
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): go to our only fans only fans.com slash we like shooting
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually ended up deleting that by the way it took me so long to sign up for that account by the way it's hard to be a whore because like signing up for an onlyfans account was harder than like registering your car
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see outlaw says rumble needs to step up its game there are apis that can read my subs from youtube and then figure out who that channel is on rumble they also need to allow subs to be grouped
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually coming very soon uh we'll be streaming on a different platform we'll still be putting our stuff on rumble and stuff like that but we will be streaming on our own platform and like it'll push to rumble and youtube and x and all the all the normal places that we push to but like all the chat all this stuff it will be enclosed in our own system it'll do all the things we want it to do i don't want you guys to have to watch the fucking horrible rumble ads that interrupt your viewing experience the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i think that the rumble chat kind of sucks like all those things are better in our new streaming platform so you know we'll still push to all the other places that we already do but for you guys the ones that watch live uh you guys will have a premium experience coming in the next few weeks so anyway just wanted to kind of give you guys some behind the scenes on that uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): generally doesn't happen so it was a it was a crazy thing very very unexpected but uh welcome i will say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see where are we at
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i think we have time we have time you know we have time for we have time to save lives
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what i mean by that is you can save a life if you have the right knowledge and you can get the gear that you need to do those things savage say that i have a massive bleed on the inside of my right leg what what is the the effective thing to do there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): life-threatening savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): put
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): your dick in it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is one thing you could do savage is muted
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just you just stand there and go uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i would just stand there and watch you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you you know you do like the whole
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so cold thing and i'd be like it's okay
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sean it's okay it's not that bad i'd be like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cold i'm gonna die nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no buddy it's gonna be okay jeremy's trying to fucking thumb in a softy into my into my leg wound
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): softy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bro
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna be hard as diamonds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): could
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one of you guys just go to please go to medicalgearoutfitters.com and buy a cat gen seven tourniquet like goddamn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean i guess it sounds less fun but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay well i've talked about you know doing it piecemeal going and buying a tourniquet going
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and buying go
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ahead
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): could put a tourniquet on it or i could come
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): God damn.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I hate that it has to be a choice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): here to fuck your leg and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I didn't even bring bubblegum.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And I haven't chewed bubblegum in 17 years.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's great. Anyway, I talked about tourniquets. I talked about hemostatic gauze and just regular gauze and other normal things. i've talked about israeli bandages and the oleus bandages and just pressure bandages to basically hold the wound packing in once you actually get the bleeding stopped and then from massive bleeding or bleeding control we go to airway and so the thing about the airways you need to make sure that it's open and that they can actually use it so to make sure that it's open one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of the things that you can do is a nasopharyngeal airway they're like eight dollars
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): comes with a little thing of lube they're very easy to put in um you can watch youtube videos on it or you could even take an online medical course uh to learn how to do those things and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a great way to make sure that their airway is open so like if you bought the tourniquet if you bought the hemostatic gauze if you bought the pressure bandage the next thing you're going to do is uh just go buy a couple of the nasopharyngeal airways or npas as it were and you know we're building a kit so go to medical gear outfitters.com use coupon code wls is life and you can save some of that money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): righty then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i guess you know on that note it is time to do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very disturbed by what jeremy said save your life or it could come
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i know what i'd pick but goddamn i hate that you're as fucked up as i am
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well let's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me see i did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not say thank you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me go over to bang rank share this tab instead i'm not even gonna fuck with stream yard right now because it annoys me every week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right biggest gun flops is what we're going to do tonight and for those that don't know bang rank we rank it it's like the ranking systems you've seen on social media and youtube and stuff uh s is like the top tier of whatever we happen to be ranking and then it's letter grades a b c d f f being obviously the worst uh you know what i got in school and so tonight jeremy biggest gun flops we're going to rank each one by the scale of its failure concept execution launch reliability
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): recall or market rejection this is just the biggest flop so like the biggest flop worst thing possible out there is going to be an s and then a thing that was you know flop but like not the end of the world is going to be like an f and jeremy likes to play where he only gives each letter grade once uh but savage and nick can play however they want it the rules are the rules are the same if you're watching live you can scan the qr code or go to we likeshooting.com slash rank and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can vote there and for the people who are listening after the fact these remain open for seven days after each game so you can uh go vote after the fact and rank things how you like it last week we did the most overrated gun brand and looks like 41 people went in and rated after the fact uh daniel defense was rated as a which is the highest uh highest ranked by the listeners of the overrated gun brand six hour h&k
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): springfield armory colt fn and glock all tied at a b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): basically everyone was just kind of feeling middle of the road as far as the listeners who filled it out after the fact so thank you to everyone who went um so tonight for the biggest gun flops the torus curve
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hudson h9
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Remington R-51, the Zip-22, the Colt All-American 2000,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Armatics IP-1, the Caracol C, and the Boberg, or I'm sorry, the Bond Arms Bullpup.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right, so everyone's got it. We'll go ahead and start off.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a lineup.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It is. It is. And again, we're rating the biggest gun flop, so the higher ranking means it's a bigger flop than the rest. Taurus Curve, Nick Lynch.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): S.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay. like seriously
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this thing lasted like six months
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): This, this one hurts me at my soul.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ugly and terrible and bad. Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean, didn't they sell them for a while or did it really only last six months?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They sold them
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for a short while.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): feel like it was probably more than six months. It just, it came and went really fast.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did. I feel like a lot of people talked about
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it a lot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): but not good things.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. I don't think I ever heard one person be like, yeah, this is sweet.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Did it help?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I put it a B. I don't think it's the worst. It can't be the worst. It's nowhere near the worst. Did you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): say it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): B?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think B.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): still didn't. It's like cutting B or like bitch or dick. Bitch. Okay. Thank you.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Bravo.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): use your phonetic alphabet. I'll use mine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): use the proper one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): although we did write a uh bad phonetic alphabet one time we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it was like you know uh k as in night
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): p is in pneumonia
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): n was just you know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): z as in xylophone
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right uh jeremy torres curve
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna give this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): there's a gun on here that's i'm having a hard time with this one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna give this one a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i am also going to give this an a which is going to average average the four of us out overall to an a tourist curve just a pretty big fucking flag
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i know what they were trying a lot of these are good initiative bad judgment yeah you know i mean like a lot of them were just good initiative bad judgment it was like i see what you were trying to do but it didn't work
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100 agree uh and so far the live viewers also agree with you they ranked the taurus curve in a average remington r51 uh petterson style compact nine millimeter just a fucking disaster when it rolled out savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s dang i wanted this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i wanted this to be so good because it looks so cool and they fucked it up so bad fuck you remington man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you think that looks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think yeah for like kind of a retro ish yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's like very james bondish cool yeah yeah it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a look it's not like the best looking thing but it's a style stylistically it's fucking cool it's just gayer and coming a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mustache you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that dog that's like uh steven
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah yeah it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): makes me it looks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like that yes it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does look like steven it does
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i never found these attractive at all but i thought did think that they were interesting
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is weird because you love the whitney wolverine and this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and the walters like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this looks like somebody saw whitney wolverine one time and then described it to somebody
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): else and made a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): bad gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like somebody had a the way a strawberry taste described to them and then tried to create the scent uh jeremy remington r51
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): s
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wow this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was this gun literally put remington out of business
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was the nail in the coffin
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking remington as the previous company that it was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nicholas froze oh he did
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): freeze
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): okay nick
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): nick froze it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did nick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): froze so i am going to rate this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's an f because froze right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): oh he's gone even
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gonna give it a a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that there's other more disastrous rollouts uh i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know if there was a more disastrous rollout than this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that there was i think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that with that guns and ammo fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bullshit yeah that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): came out and they were like hyping it up for like eight months prior and then it came out and it was just the biggest hunk of dog shit ever yeah yeah like i don't know i don't know that you get worse than that as far as like that was worse of a rollout than springfield with their saint rifles
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know i think there was a worse one and we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gonna at least they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): at least they sold saint rifles and they're decent like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there is a worse one than this, Shawn. Yes.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): There is, as far as the flop goes, and it's the Hudson H9. And I'm going to start it out, and I'm going to lay down exactly why I think this one deserves the S of all the other ones. So Hudson teamed up with a dude who had been a Glock marketing guru and genius. They came out with this pre-shot show launch video that was like just fucking sick. And,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, Hudson really was hyped over the fucking top. They had some investment money. They had some money that they put in themselves. And then it comes to SHOT Show Range Day and the guns have problems all day long. As they're rolling them out, they have trouble meeting demand. They have trouble with the parts. The reliability of the gun is for shit. the parts are breaking like just problem after problem after problem after problem it turns out that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): basically like the engineering of the gun was done in powerpoint and like more power to them like that's freaking awesome like they didn't know how to do cad and shit so they like they did it the way they wanted to and like it had the biggest of aspirations but they ended up going out of business uh not long after um they tried they struggled they pushed as much as they possibly could and then finally
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shut it all down and basically sold the intellectual property the intellectual property later was bought by daniel defense who sat on it for several years and tried to re-engineer the gun from scratch
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): daniel defense released their version of the h9
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also flopped really hard there was a ton of issues with the gun like this gun has put one company out of business and really put a lot of egg on the face of the other i don't think there's any gun that has had more opportunity to do well that more people wanted to do well that is actually a really cool fucking gun that just could never get over the hump for me this is the biggest gun flop of all time jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got his hands in his his face in his hands
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): while
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i agree with everything that you said
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think it's fucking nick's power went out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um nick
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just sent a text in our group
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): chat oh the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): power blip the working on getting back in um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): agree it's not that i don't disagree with everything that you said i and and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like from a smaller company like them i i just for some reason it's like i had less expectations because it was like a relatively new company with a relatively new gun with a relatively new design and like and again good initiative bad judgment all the way around um and good people like right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they were cool as shit i talked
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to them
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): had them
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on the show a couple times and um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i just don't think it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i don't think it was as disastrous as as the remington because like i don't while like the hype was there it just wasn't it was like we felt i feel like we saw the hype more because we're in the industry whereas like normie saw the hype of some of these other guns like nobody outside of the gun world saw the hype for this because they didn't know who the fuck hudson is like if it's not a colt or glock they're like what's that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean they had a lot of mag i don't think you remember the hype on the hudson because it was crazy like you were seeing it in mainstream media and stuff like where you would never see stuff
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): never saw it in mainstream media
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was in it was a honestly it was in uh guns and ammo like the same
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind of hype that's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not mainstream media
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): same hyped up shit as the r51 launch anyway i'm not trying to like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): anyways um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna put this one at
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna put and like it was a kind of a radical design from a new company and i don't know i just i didn't expect as much out of it as like i'd like yeah they pull it off it's cool but apparently they can't um i'm gonna and this would have been a cooler gun to have work than the r51
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i agree so like for that like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know i'm gonna give this a c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this is a territory because i agree with a lot of what you said and i don't you did you get it did you get a chance to shoot this at one of the one of the range days
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the hudson i've shot the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hudson a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bunch of times
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and yeah because you had one and you you thought it wasn't like terrible it was obviously wasn't great oh no no no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i I haven't had one. I do not think that it is. I do think it's terrible. It's an
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): awful gun. It's an awful gun. Awful gun.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right. Well, I think it's in the AK. I mean, it had a lot of potential. was way overhyped, but I don't think it was the biggest flop. I think it's definitely A territory, though.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. So, I got Nick's. He said A for the Remington R51, which keeps it at an S. And then the Hudson, he also said an A. So, that keeps it at an A average for all of us. now we're talking about biggest gun flops the zip 22 which i don't even really know what the fuck this is it's like uh it it's not made for human hands i will assure you of that but nick why don't you uh start us off for the zip
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know i i actually want one of these for like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hour
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i mean i wanted one for like four years until i got a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): chance to
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shoot one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're awful um yeah one of the worst firearms designs ever frankly um if what what's above s is there like an s plus
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but i get it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because yeah this one didn't sell well it didn't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): perform
Nick (reference, not reviewed): well it wasn't safe
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah that's that's an s yeah that makes sense savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was definitely my s like my super s of of all the s's that could possibly be it's it's not designed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): usage and every way to operate it is dangerous it never properly didn't have any kind of decent extraction it really destroyed the fucking company that was a long like an old the fucking company you know i mean everything about this is ass so i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): legitimately
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't understand what it is like at what point
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): must have engineered this shit in powerpoint
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna get i'm gonna give this one the b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): b all right yeah this it was bad um and i wished it worked because it's just retarded but like it's retarded so i didn't expect a lot like out of a retarded thing yeah you know i mean like it's not like oh this is the world's best next best self-defense gun this is like hey i got this retarded add-on for your gun it's kind of stupid you want it maybe
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hug muffin in the chat says i love my zip 22 and its original box it's never fed more than a single round without jamming it's so bad it's lovable vince h says i bought them all so i could be the biggest biggest piece of shit out there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these are like the et video game from the fucking atari
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they just need to be buried in the middle of the fucking desert in arizona and forgotten about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): our average all of us together is an a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what about the kirakal c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): recalled
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): at some point serious safety concerns it came back out later but pretty big flop in the origin in the in the beginning i'm gonna start this one off like c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): since
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's a kirakal c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it kind of just sounds like a sig product really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually now that i think about it i should have put a 320 in here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you rate it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh sorry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): c c all right savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): actually putting in d category because aside from the blowing up part
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it was fairly well rated and it is like you know all everything aside you know fairly traditional looking and functioning gun uh except it blew up and then it's come back and i think it doesn't have any issues now yeah so yeah i don't think i don't think it's a terrible flop i mean they they were on you know above board on everything they did as far as fixing uh you know take taking the recalls and fixing the issues for the customers so i'd say yeah d
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): d's there and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i've actually shot them now and they're surprisingly good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm trying to think of what i have left
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i've done c through s i think so what do we got left
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): caracal
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): armlight cold uh well i'm gonna have to double up a couple
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah 100 um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna give this one a d um yeah i don't remember much about it um about what all happened with this one so and if they if they fix the problems and they came back out then whatever okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you know i really wish company was That would stop making users beta test their shit,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but, you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Speaking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Or alpha test their shit.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The Colt All-American. Introduced to 1981 SHOT Show. Discontinued three years later. The radical
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): -American model. 2000 double action semi-auto pistol was a major sales disappointment for Colt. It featured a roller bearing mounted trigger. Rotary barrel action. Reversible magazine release. And a fitted plastic case. It was the beginning of the end for the old Colt. jeremy what'd you say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't remember much about these either
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): truth
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): be told like i remember when they came out and i was like oh look colt actually rolled out a gun that's not a single action army or a 1911 or an ar because that was about the only three guns they made back then right and uh i was like oh huh neat and then i never saw one and i never heard anything about them ever again
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seen these
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): were they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): any good apparently not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): were they or was it colt they wanted three grand for them and they're just not worth that like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't think they were super pricey they just no one wanted them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think they were known for having a super heavy trigger and they had some other issues that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they had some reliability issues or something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): something's got to go in f so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah i just don't remember a lot about it i i heard about it like one time and then that was it it just disappeared from my memory
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the market as well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): well uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): d for me nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna go yeah sure d savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm in the in the d range i literally never heard about this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it was before
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a lot of our time but it was it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wasn't a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): flop
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was before i was paying attention to you know i was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Nick (reference, not reviewed): nine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah and i know i've about it but i just don't remember
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this uh was announced in 1991 shot show so before you were even born
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh yes
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): next up
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): armatics ip1 so if you don't recall what this one was it was an rfid enabled smart 22 pistol i think it was like a bracelet that had an rfid chip that would unlock the gun and make it actually usable um literally nobody fucking wanted it huge flop and it's going to be the same flop as every other fucking smart gun in my opinion i give this a c savage what do you say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean i because of all the bullshit i want to i really want to put it up as as an s because i mean this this was highly touted from like all the anti-gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know organizations as being super safe and then was this the one that was sold in like new jersey and they went through that whole fucking process of well if if a safe gun is sold then you have so many years before all guns are required to have that same technology and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think maybe one person literally like one or two people maybe bought these fucking things
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so it in 2014 it absolutely people were afraid that jersey law was going to kick in um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're you're 100 right about all that but basically a bunch of people were able to show massive issues and that you could completely bypass the safety with magnets or even by hacking the the wi-fi signal uh 25 pound trigger pull
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it was a massive piece of shit made by
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): somebody who yeah who
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hated guns you know ostensibly and there was no market for this thing but there was it was marketed through like all the anti-gunners they were just all like falling over themselves for the stupid shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100 all right jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah i remember this one now um uh i'm gonna double this one up on uh s because it was just fucking bad i mean i don't even know how many they sold but it couldn't have been a lot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i i haven't been able to find any numbers but yeah it's not good nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): muted yeah i think this is an s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay damn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's gonna take some
Nick (reference, not reviewed): bangers tonight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this one's going to go to an A then. And last,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not least, but maybe least, was the Bond Arms Bullpup, also known as the Boberg. XR9. Reverse feed system. Bullpup little fucking weird thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sorry. Like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing was fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): decidedly
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): terrible. I'm going to give it an S. I know I've used a couple S's, but I don't care. Nick?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what what's decidedly terrible about it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it was really lame to shoot um just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was pretty unreliable a lot of people that got review guns uh had a ton of issues with it this was the one that i think the the round kind of has to like turn around to go into the chamber it was just uh pretty failed lunch never really heard much about it after that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): doesn't uh turn around but it pulls the round backwards that's right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah um i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know that this one is that like they're still making this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm pretty sure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think they are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know that this is a huge so boberg
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the original design
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they were
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a very small outfit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): didn't really have the resources i don't think to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fully bring it to market and then they ended up selling it to bond arms um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is you know like not a giant company right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's also just a weird strange departure i don't remember how much they cost but i don't think that they're cheap
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna give this one i'm gonna say d d all right going the opposite direction jeremy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): again good initiative bad judgment
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it would have been really cool had it worked
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's the problem is you can come up with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can come up with the coolest fucking design on the planet but if it's not like why like what benefit does it offer the shooting world to do all the things that it does other than just make it harder to manufacture work right and cost more
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and then it's like i guess it is a bullpup by like you know the definition of the word but it's also just kind of stupid
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right yeah like there's no there's no benefit to oh it it's a handgun it makes it a little bit shorter and like like it doesn't like it doesn't matter right um it it's just i'm i don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would be like it's like it's like a fucking fever dream of an engineer to just make something different like i fuck john browning i'm gonna make my own shit and you're like yeah but he already figured out the one of the best ways to do it right right so i don't know what you're trying to do here um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh i'm gonna go with uh i'm gonna put it was pretty bad i'm gonna put this one in an a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hey
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay savage what did you say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): didn't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm kind of still like c or d territory because a well first of all yeah it's stupid expensive it shouldn't be uh it is a novel idea and it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know for a specific reason it helps keep the you know the barrel muzzle really short which is nice to have when you're concealed carrying uh i think like you said they're still selling them so that shouldn't necessarily mean that they're a failure so i'm probably gonna go d on this one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right that averages us out to a b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): our
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): first
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): day of
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the evening
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the record msrp is 10 50
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's they're fucking expensive
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): but not as expensive as i thought
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know i thought they were in the 1500
Nick (reference, not reviewed): range that's an expensive handgun but it's not like oh holy shit expensive handgun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see and an open listener voting all right so that is gonna do it for all of these now here's the results for the remington r51 the hosts ranked it s live viewers a torres curve everyone a hudson h9 everyone a armatics ip1 hosts a live viewers b zip 22 hosts a live viewers b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bond arms bullpup
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hosts
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): b live viewers c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kirakow hosts c live viewers b and the colt all-american hosts d live viewers b so a lot of uh stuff going out over the uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know we agree on some we didn't agree on others kind of like usual but Very interesting nonetheless. All right. I'm going to post that on social there, and that is going to do it for that episode of Bang Rink.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right. That's going to bring us to our friends over at Night Vision. N-I-G-H-T-F-I-S-I-O-N.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what do they make?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): They make electricity.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm trying to think.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sparks fly when you see their products. no it's pretty lame sorry
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sorry guys
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that was pretty bad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they catch on fire when
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you use them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): make night sights
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): make
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): glow
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in the dark tritium well actually glow all the time tritium yeah night sights
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah and then they have their adapter plate kits that they also sell which are pretty cool if you have any questions about uh you know how tall your sights need to be to work with your optic on your pistol
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): will hook you up you can tell them what what optic you got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they'll say you need this plate and these sights
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of course what gun you have and and then you can slap all that stuff onto your gun and you'll have a perfect
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): co
Nick (reference, not reviewed): -witness and optic height
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is pretty cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's a cool way to
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do that i agree man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so you can go to welikeshooting.com slash sponsors click on night vision and use coupon code wls is life
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): time for gunfights
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): time for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): guys guys
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you are you guys ready
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's time yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hold on let me do this on my phone
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): guys sean's doing it on his phone
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): want to play this on my phone guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah no deal doing
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it on his phone
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah wait
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not that one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): let's do that one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): let's do this one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you can make your window wider if you want
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know what you're not my real dad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i am your fake dad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see who
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): are they talking about in the chat real quick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh Brock says the initial run of the Armatrix was $5,000 only a handful were sold and the bulk remain unsold today
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): says
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they went insolvent in 2022 alright let close chat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it good to go ready
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kind of want one now though
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not lying
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): time for gunfights
Nick (reference, not reviewed): alright are you guys ready yeah but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is gunfights never heard of it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's just a game we play i guess uh i guess you're sol
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'll
Nick (reference, not reviewed): figure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): out as we go
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i'm gonna show you guys five guns i'll describe them for the people who aren't uh able to see because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're listening can't
Nick (reference, not reviewed): get in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the audio version
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it say waiting for the host to choose an item savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some reason you can't get in that's what she
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): said why you only got one kid that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really weird
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): logged in on my phone
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and computer hold
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you considered turning off your 3d printer
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wait
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a minute dude so i'm going to show you guys five guns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): will describe them for the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): okay okay man all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then uh you guys will try to guess how much they sold for on the gun broker
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then whoever is closest wins we're not doing price is right rules
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): perfect
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sounds good i'm ready
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ready
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): win all right here's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the first gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right here is a dpms oracle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one had 33 bids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is uh it is new in box which is pretty cool because i'm not sure how long it's been now since dpms stopped existing but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they have not existed for some time so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they're back
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): are they back
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): absolutely they are uh this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i know the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ceo from
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): franklin
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): armory at the time went to be the ceo at dpms this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you know
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you know dpms stands for right oh that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right dog shit
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): penis missiles suck
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): dick penis mushroom stamp.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So this is this is not a new firearm, though. You can even see in some of the pictures where it shows the box. It even has a Facebook link on the side of the URL on the side of
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the box.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): That's how old this is. Anyway. Yeah. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a DPMS Oracle. It is a 16-inch 5.56 AR-15 pattern rifle, carbine gas system, the A2 style clamshell handguard,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): basic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): AR
Nick (reference, not reviewed): carbine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nothing
Nick (reference, not reviewed): real fancy going on. It doesn't even have a front sight post.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just got the railed front gas block. I don't know if you guys remember those.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Back when we had to get gas block height front sites, because a lot of times the rail wasn't at the same height as the rail on the upper for some reason.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yes. So fucking annoying.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was so fucking weird. Why did people even do that shit? I don't know.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think it was just because it looked weird. You know, if you had the gas block be that much taller, it just looked strange. But yeah, it was really annoying.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. More parts.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): anyway 33 bids new in box
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): looks
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like we have we're waiting on savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i can't get in stab
Nick (reference, not reviewed): at it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh we're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just waiting for savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i said
Nick (reference, not reviewed): jeremy says 400 savage says 400 and guns here we go sean says 833 out of business companies
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): none of you guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): none
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of you guys are are correct on the theme but uh savage and jeremy were five dollars off
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wow
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this sold for 395
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what the fuck i know what i got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): did
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you guys both terrible guess
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 400
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah oh my god
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i swear savage you're a shame to our family
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): look
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i i put my shit in like five seconds after i saw that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): go
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so he copied me i didn't even know what you how i can't even see what the fuck you put in i'm just saying i put my bid in first
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): when
Nick (reference, not reviewed): savage was going i can't get in he he was trying to log into jeremy's right you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know the crazy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing is for 400 for 395 someone got ripped the fuck off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I think that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think that's terrible
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy's laugh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I've never been stoked on DPMS but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think 400 bucks is like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): weren't complete dog shit it's not Bear Creek
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I would take this over Bear Creek
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Bear Creek's also cost $395 dollars
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so back
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in uh back in the day when i got my first job in the industry i worked for a company that oem barrels for a bunch of companies including dpms and we used to joke
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Nick (reference, not reviewed): something was like really fucked up we'd be like i just throw it in the dpms box
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they'll take it because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh like they didn't give a fuck but um anyway
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): moving
Nick (reference, not reviewed): on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all right this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a ruger a wooger lcp max 380 acp
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): first there was the lcp then there was the lcp2 then there's the lcp max which is like someone took an lcp2 and then uh force fed it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that its liver became larger
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh the foie
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the foie gras of pistols
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so yeah this is a little pocket pistol that is double stack right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's got a 10 round mag this one's had 33 bids when the auction ended um yeah not exactly like a fun gun to shoot but they work and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know you could do worse
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): could do worse
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you could also do better very easily
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you could definitely do better
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the bodyguard too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): honestly
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking yeah i hate
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the lcps
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do not like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they never
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): really they never really got Got them like down pat.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I had a, uh, the first LCP. I think I bought it for like 150 bucks or something. And, um, like it worked.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It
Nick (reference, not reviewed): wasn't fun. And it like kind of sucked. The trigger was bad and everything,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but they, they, they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): straight up hurt to pull the trigger on more than a couple of times.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's a, it's a teeny tiny gun. It's a Jim shorts gun, you know?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh all the bids are in um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says 300 and budget guns savage says 250 guns nicks think guns nick thinks savage would buy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't think you would buy these i know you would buy these sean says 233 dollars new in box uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): am gonna accept
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): budget
Nick (reference, not reviewed): guns because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what i what i wrote down for my prompt was guns guns of the people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because all of these guns basic guns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doesn't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean that's a different connotation
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah yeah that's a very different connotation these are all guns that are like yeah you know you basically what what sean said earlier like you could do better but you could do worse too like they're all inexpensive and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): more
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or less work and they're fine you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for 205 god damn it which means that sean was 28 off yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was for
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sure some boomer was going to pick this thing up for more than that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I know, but it was Penny Start 33 bids. was like...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I didn't hear the Penny Start.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's up top. It says it in big letters.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was looking at the picture, not the title.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Words. Yeah, Jeremy just looks at the pictures in the books. My favorite. Let's see. Yeah, why else would I get the books?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do you think? I'm reading the articles in a Playboy? Come on.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This is a Mossberg Maverick 88.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a 12-gauge pump-action shotgun.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This one's a 28-inch barrel. It's got the vent rib on it, so this would be set up for hunting and shooting clays.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): clay
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pigeons maybe not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): clays
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can never remember like trap ski sporting clays dude i know all the uh so yeah you you would use this for like shooting birds and stuff um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one has a three inch chamber
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is used despite having the uh sticker on the stock still
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but it says it's very
Nick (reference, not reviewed): lightly used um essentially new condition
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one had 26 bids when the auction ended
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): gun fits perfectly into the theme right maverick 88 is not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): super
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh not a very expensive gun but if you're after a shotgun and you don't have a lot of money to spend this is like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the best you can do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): at
Nick (reference, not reviewed): its price point
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): agreed yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know like there's there isn't really anything else that's competitive price wise that's better in my opinion
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i agree and honestly they're they're not bad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Nick (reference, not reviewed): no they're not the nicest shotguns in the world but like they they work fine then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): all right everybody's in um yeah we are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says 175 dollars
Nick (reference, not reviewed): savage says
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 180 dollars
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says 226 dollars and guns of the people um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're right but we already said what the theme is i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): didn't hear it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna have to ding you a point
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nice
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shut the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fuck up jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah every time you guys uh i'm gonna add a new element where every time you guys make a correct guess after the theme has been revealed it's you it's negative one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): point
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): doctor point
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm gonna every fucking
Nick (reference, not reviewed): week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): every week i was like god damn it jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): figured it out too soon that means every fucking round
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if um what if we put a new theme but it's completely off base and it's fun You can do whatever you want.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to make a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): code change. But I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't want to get I don't want to get doctor point.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm not actually going to dock
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys a point. I still think it's funny when you guys put in the theme.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's me, your boy, Penny Skinis.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): All right. This gun sold for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hundred.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fuck.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And sixty dollars.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Damn
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it, Jeremy.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy was fifteen dollars off. Making him the closest.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yay
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i have a big
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wiener
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): unrelated
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to topic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a big wiener and a drive around town drive
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): around town
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): make my mommy proud
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bro all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right this one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is this is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): very much a savage gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my god
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay this is this mechanic
Nick (reference, not reviewed): tp9 v2 this
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): picture gave
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): me
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): heart
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man what i love is that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the title says uh masterpiece uh ergonomic masterpiece self defense pistol so for the folks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): folks in the far seats
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): driving to work or whatever uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can't see this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): someone
Nick (reference, not reviewed): has taken a full-sized canic tp9 v2
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um perfectly good
Nick (reference, not reviewed): gun I don't know what the fuck the V2 is, but I'm sure Savage could write
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): dissertation on it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's just the one that came after the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): TP9
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): SA.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well, no, that was the Kanik 1, and then the TP9 V2 came out.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): So does this one still have the dumb decocker on the top of the slide? Probably.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it totally does.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Instead of an optics
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cut, they put the stupid fucking decocker. I've got one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they put the decocker in front of the rear sight except it's a striker fired pistol that is not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): true double action
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can't like once it's decocked the trigger's just dead um and then yeah they put it right in front of the rear sight where it's not protected by the holster and could be bumped into things anyway uh it got fixed later but so uh for the folks who can't see this what's going on here and the reason that everybody's that there's so much uh moaning and gnashing of teeth um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): way that the optic is set up on this thing so as sean mentioned the decocker is where you would typically put an optic um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): has a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): frame mounted optics mount
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): goes onto the picatinny rail on the dust cover
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and then puts puts the red dot up above the ejection port
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right like there's nothing wrong with that style of optics mount you see it a lot in competition and stuff uh the dot stays in one spot so it's easier to track with the eye it's got a lot of benefits to it um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): problem is that this is like the cheapest shittiest looking optics mount that has ever existed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and then
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's got a burris fast fire on top of it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): even worse yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i mean and it might be okay because it's not going to get beat up as much by the slide right like it's not going to get slung around quite quite as hard
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's just to call this an ergonomic masterpiece self-defense pistol
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is really
Nick (reference, not reviewed): really a stretch
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kind of crazy i've got a couple bit pieces of history for you here number one i have a 45 high point that has that exact optics optic setup
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is that the same one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's similar i think this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one that one's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): more of an amazon special mine was actually from
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one company i can't remember what they were called but then the second little bit of history is this gun right here is actually what caused the aids epidemic in africa
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i thought that was fauci
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no it was this gun it gave everyone in africa aids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Nick (reference, not reviewed): to be confused with jeremy who gave everyone in north america aids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gave all the men aids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): black
Nick (reference, not reviewed): man my own folk
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): speaking of jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): believes that this gun sold for 300 and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says not our guns or not your guns our guns for the theme. Savage says $200.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says $328.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): actual price
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this pistol. You guys aren't going to believe this. Savage knows what these are worth.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for $245.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Jeremy was $55 off. Savage was $45 off. On the last one, Jeremy was $15 off. Savage was 20 off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): seems to be a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): thing Here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Nick (reference, not reviewed): thing? They're, uh, they're just,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): both bid the same on the first one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then the third and fourth one, they were $5 off from each other.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I know there does seem to be a thing.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Whatever.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Here's another one. This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one is a Ruger American nine millimeter.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is the full-sized four inch barrel, 17 round mag. Um, 23. three bids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these
Nick (reference, not reviewed): are uh these are fine guns um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the experience that i had
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shooting
Nick (reference, not reviewed): them was that they're not like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anything
Nick (reference, not reviewed): super fancy or crazy or anything you know you're not going to shoot it and be like oh wow uh but it works
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're pretty affordable
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have one i was trying to grab it it must be in a different safe but yeah it's uh they're fucking awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): polymer feels a little bit oily i can't describe it any more than that it doesn't have
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anything on
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it it just feels kind of oily
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): an interesting way to describe it yeah like i can't it does have a strange feel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but other than that like kind of awesome gun i i loved this gun like back in the day before i learned better
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i uh like i said i don't think they're gonna wow anybody but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a full-size 17 round mag 9 millimeter
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it works
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah good work
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): look good yeah uh good capacity like pretty good gun yeah super reliable triggers all right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one had 23 bids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it looks like everybody's in um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see jeremy says 225
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): guys aren't going to believe this but Savage also says $225 I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fucking believe you guys at this point
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys are messaging back
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and forth
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): promise there's no way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this has
Nick (reference, not reviewed): been going on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): way too long I don't talk
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to Savage when I have to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): let alone
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Well, you guys are never going to believe my bid.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sean's bid was $223.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I hope
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): $226.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sean's theme, he says, I said I'm sorry.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Well, Jeremy and Savage, you guys were $32.01 off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this auction
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sean was $30 and one cent that sold for $192 and 99 cents
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 200 bucks that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah that's not bad oh yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's not bad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a fun gun I really like those little ones
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I thought I would bring us some not insane prices
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's correct
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah we were all expecting one to go for like ten thousand
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was
Nick (reference, not reviewed): really tempted to try to find something ridiculous to throw in at the end but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so that means we have a tie we
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sure do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): actually we have a three-way tie
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do we really yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah me
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and savage got
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the same price on the first
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): one and one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's a good thing that i have a tiebreaker queued up and ready to go here
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): okay
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but what if me and savage tie the same bit and both and win
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you have to have sex with each other
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my god
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then I already told you I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): could fuck him and not feel gay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with each other you have to take turns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that case I will say that because Jeremy got the theme he'll get the uh if if we end up in a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): full
Nick (reference, not reviewed): on tie that'll be our tight tie double tiebreaker
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fuck is this thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Well, I'm glad that you asked, Sean. This is a Benelli M3 Super 90.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This is a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty interesting shotgun. This is kind of like the Spaz 12, where it is a semi-auto, but it's also a pump action.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): these are hideous, in my opinion.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): But they're kind of neat at the same time. This one had 21 bids on it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think i found this the other week when i was doing the banned guns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because i believe
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): could be wrong, but I think these got hit by the Clinton ban as well. So there weren't a whole lot of them that came into the country.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of an interesting, an inertia-driven action that says, I don't know a whole lot about these. 12-gauge, 20-inch barrel.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Why does it say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Benelli and it says H&K,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Inc.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on the side?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because i believe hk was importing benelli's at one point and put their name on them back in the uh what the 90s i guess huh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fucking weird man
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): those italian
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): shotguns they go so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh top folding stock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty
Nick (reference, not reviewed): interesting um kind of like we discussed with the uh i think it was the spaz 12 this you would run this as a semi-auto and then for stuff that couldn't cycle the action or you know if for some reason you didn't want to cycle the action um it can be uh adapted to be a pump action
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): force
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): low
Nick (reference, not reviewed): low uh low powder less lethal rounds and stuff through there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): interesting what it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): says 12 cl what is that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um i don't know is that a might just be like a european designation for 12 gauge
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i was trying to figure out what gauge it was but i can't tell
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's a 12 gauge okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm not sure what the cl
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stands
Nick (reference, not reviewed): for maybe somebody in the
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): look at the chat over here and see if somebody uh
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): us how the chat's doing too
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): you how they're doing
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): they seem to be doing well i don't
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): seem to be retarded
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): who's winning yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not sure yet
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sorry there's so much to scroll through
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh it's fine uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): there's some things in here that i'm not going to repeat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): y'all got your bids
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): got
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my bid
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in three-way tie i don't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know we've ever had a three-way tie
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think we have somebody get ready for trivia
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right uh jeremy says 1500 oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says 2000
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh sean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says 821 someone's gonna be so mad
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): guys should all be mad it's probably me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 300 or excuse me 3526
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah savage was 526
Nick (reference, not reviewed): off making him the closest
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): also
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): making
Nick (reference, not reviewed): him tonight's big wiener.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like, there's no way it's going to go for the price of a fucking M4.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's an M3, so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's stupid.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really stupid.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm glad I won.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Alright, so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): here at the end we got Savage with three points
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): well uh with with one point but he got three items um jeremy picked up two items and the theme sean picked up two items so that's our first ever that i'm aware of that i can think of off the top of my head three-way tie i guess i could be wrong somebody in the chat's probably like no right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): plow guy dave is probably like no actually on episodes seven eight nine 32 um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see over in the live chat it looks like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): vince
Nick (reference, not reviewed): shep dr scary guy uh let's see
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see this again um vince one he's had two
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shep
Nick (reference, not reviewed): had one dr scary guy had one captain doogie had one cloud guy dave got one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): three thousand
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bucks for that on
Nick (reference, not reviewed): our standing yeah i don't think there are a whole lot of them in the country wow and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think it's a collectible thing but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fair
Nick (reference, not reviewed): enough uh sean and jeremy are currently tied 24 points savage has 16 points and i am
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bringing
Nick (reference, not reviewed): up the distant
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): distant
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Distant. Hale
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): at
Nick (reference, not reviewed): three points.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Amazing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm disappointed, but I do have this Ruger American.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hey.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, there you go. Nice. At least you're used to it. Yeah. Well, no, I mean. Every time you look at me.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking Jeremy coming back. Like, I was six points ahead of Jeremy at one point.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah, you got off to a strong lead.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy was leading in the first part of the year. Over the summer, I fucking ran away. and then Jeremy has quickly come back.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let's see. So Vince H1 over in the chat. You can go to weelikeshooting.com slash dashboard and click on listener leaderboard to see all that there. Thanks, Plot Guy Dave,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): running it for us. Thank you, Nick,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): doing the gunfights. It's always awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hey,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're welcome. Appreciate you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And what the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fuck is that?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Flatline Faber Co. Nick, what's your favorite thing? Quick.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Belt.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, wait, from Flatline Fiber Co. or just in general? Flatline Fiber.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wait.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Belt is your favorite answer to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what's your favorite
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sorry, I was thinking Blue Alpha. They're slings, man. Slings.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): slings are great.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sorry,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I thought we were doing a Blue Alpha ad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): some reason. I mean... It's because they're so close together.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Well, yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): But the cool thing is they both make different stuff. Like, they do have some overlap, but, you know, Blue Alpha does make the Battle Belts.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and it's not just that there's, like, overlap. it's that they're actually like homies that live in the same area and you know support each other and stuff
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they used to work
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): together before
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they both started their own businesses
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so the uh flatline fiber co has all kinds of awesome stuff um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean they're slings i'm gonna i am gonna say they're slings because i think that's what i use the most of from them and i really like them a lot uh but the the bag is also very very good and it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weighs
Nick (reference, not reviewed): nothing and it's small and handy and it's easy to carry around with you and doesn't get in the way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's it's worth it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like their padded rifle sling it's my favorite now the ear pro wrap is something that i use all the time too and i think that sometimes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know it may not get the glory but it's also a very good item but yeah for me slings because slings are a thing that i don't think people understand a lot you know if you weren't military law enforcement slings can be a little bit um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can be a little bit overwhelming just like all the different choices that you have and you know like i get it i totally understand that stuff but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know he makes a normal rifle sling which is the the nylon strap he makes the padded rifle sling which is my favorite he makes the kayla sling which has a nice thing to you know make it looser and tighter or he just has the one that has the strap to make it looser and tighter and that the padded rifle sling that one specifically is just the one that i like it's easy super easy operation super smooth not and not expensive at all and you can find them all flatlinefiberco.com get a sling trust me
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): train with it work with it have one on your self-defense rifle uh hopefully the day never comes where you have to use it but if you do it'll pay off flatline fabrico uh is the name of the company we like shooting.com sponsors and you can click on flatline fabrico and use coupon code wls15 to save some money
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): savage one are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): going
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ballistic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some pretty fucking awesome news for this week sick uh very excited to say that our boy patrick tate adam adamayek i think that's how you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): say his
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): name uh was issued a presidential pardon and yes this this was yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): totally
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree 100 necessary like this dude got railroaded by the fucking biden administration and a in a rogue atf they literally took a thing that is completely legal and invented a way to make it dangerous and then threw him in jail for 20 years because of it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just fucking it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bonkers i mean it wasn't just railroaded he was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was just a the administration lied the atf lied
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): court
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): made shit up and everything he like you said he had was legal so just give everybody some context here four years ago adam ayak was arrested and charged with illegally possessing two destructive devices two inert rpg G's that had holes drilled into the receivers and were stripped, completely stripped of internal parts. These are in every single fucking army surplus store around the fucking nation. And anybody can buy them without a background check because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're fucking tubes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are fucking tubes. He was convicted in 2023 and sentenced to more than 20 years in prison after the ATF's fucking lying ass expert actually added parts put parts in that were never there nor were on the property of this guy added those parts from real rpgs until they would fire a single 7.62 by 39 millimeter round
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): first of all they made it they they built a gun that he had never built he never tried to build they just made one from the part one part that he had the tube and built the rest
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they fabricated
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): everything
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): had to put another tube inside of it to even
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): make it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dangerous
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and so as a result uh the atf expert classified the rpgs as destructive devices even though the same uh inner rpgs are still legally sold today without any ffl or any other paperwork so here's the thing it can't be a destructive device first of all because it doesn't fire anything that qualifies as a destructive device
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fires it though the one that they fabricated shot a 762 by 39 which would just be a rifle round so they even charged him with something that wasn't even in the fucking law to begin with
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah they charged him for having a sten replica that is literally commercially available non-firing replica
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): everything they did was illegal it was color of law it was completely bullshit so not only should this guy like be pardoned but he should be able to fucking sue the ever-loving shit out of every single atf agent that was involved in that fucking court uh trial yeah because it's a crime that was a crime the real crime was what the atf did that was the real fucking crime here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): well yeah the atf the justice department the court system he was uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): had
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): an appeal almost a year ago now and was found that there had been a double jeopardy violation
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he had received multiple punishments for the same offense but they had to vacate one of those convictions and then re-sentence him but they rejected all of his other arguments and i would like to also say congratulations to our good friend matt larossier who is patrick tate adamiak's uh defense attorney
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so presidential yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking armed joy on x uh works for national association of gun rights i believe and he did a good job um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gun
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): writer lee lee something i'm suddenly drawing a blank uh wrote a bunch of articles about it they all pushed for his
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): release lee williams lee williams thank you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah uh all pushed for his release very hard and i'm so happy to hear that justice has finally been served um yeah like thank god
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the right the right fucking thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): crazy man so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): terrifying for the rest of us by the way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because who knew buying something completely legal that isn't a gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): could
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be turned into a gun by the feds and then used against you as evidence that you broke the law when they're the ones that literally fucking broke the law and then they charge you with something that isn't even against the law.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They're like, yo, dog, we put a grenade in this beer can and now you have to go to prison for 10 years.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Think about it. Even if he had made
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): tube into something that fired a 7.62x39 rifle round that would still be legal
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's not a destructive device that is a gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can you can make guns at home it doesn't matter what the fuck you make them out of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's it's fucking insane like i don't know not saying death penalty for those guys but it definitely makes me lean hard on wanting death penalty for that bullshit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree it's he got railroaded they wanted a conviction and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): invented one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very much so but now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doj is actually kind of being a bro and that's that's a goes in part or in a lot to harmeet dylan who's the ag so the doj has filed an amicus brief urging the supreme court to strike down the semi-auto ban.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this isn't the first time, but Attorney General Harmeet Dillian Shawn previously participated in oral arguments before the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals to buttress the position of plaintiffs challenging the ban on assault weapons imposed by the state of Illinois. And the amicus brief submitted late last week echoes her earlier argument. Most of the brief is centered around debate over what exactly constitutes common use, even though I think everybody in the audience knows. The DOJ rightfully
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): points out that the vast majority of states do not impose bans on so-called assault weapons. The AR-15 has been described by the Supreme Court as the most popular rifle, even by Sotomayor, ironically enough, most popular rifle in the country. and the statistics back up Scots Assertion. The brief notes, the latest finding by William English, who we're going to talk about a little bit later in his 2026 National Firearms Survey, that one of that one in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): four gun owners own an AR-15 style rifle with about 28 million semi-auto long guns in circulation. That the Second Amendment protects semi-automatic rifles, such as the AR-15s, follows a Fortiori from Heller's Holding that it protects semi-automatic handguns while both semi-automatic rifles and semi-automatic handguns are common use among long-abiding citizens. Semi-automatic handguns are more dangerous as a class than semi-automatic rifles and are chosen
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): far more often by armed criminals because they can be concealed. This was in Heller too and with interestingly, Kavanaugh J. dissenting. Interesting. so i mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is this is a great thing to finally see and you know i've said this before but it's such a great thing to finally see a department of justice fighting for our rights which is what they're supposed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to weird
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so many times we have seen the doj coming to punish
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know gun owners specifically just for things like what happened to the you know tate and for them to turn it around and do this this is this is what the u.s is supposed to be about fighting for our rights against the states in this case
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bro
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shocking genuinely
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to see the doj be like yo dog you get supreme court y'all should strike this shit down bro
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and it's i think it's it's looking good for us come this fall i think i think when those oral arguments hit it's going to be it's going to be flame flaming you uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but i'm i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): surprised by the one and what did you say one and four
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one and four that's actually that is a good statistic to have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i figured
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it would have been way higher
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh there's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a lot of fuds out there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Nick (reference, not reviewed): said one in four gun owners have an ar
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): crazy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they only have
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one ar
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): those
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): those are the good statistics are you ready for some bad statistics
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well uh our bro from uh legally armed america paul um that guy that guy is is carrying on you know the same same lines that i've been saying since i want to say 2012 when they first got started in guns are cool and they eventually turned into the gun violence archive who decided to just randomly redefine what qualifies as mass shootings and so our buddy paul uh shout out to him
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): went and actually went through their numbers this year because they had said that to date there had been 305 mass shootings
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): obviously
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): completely fucking fabricated now there may have been 305 shootings but nowhere near any of those qualify for anything that the doj or um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know well-known universities that study boston university's own definition which matches up with the doj's definition of four killed by a gun this you know usually there's something like between 12 to 25 mass shootings in a given year based on that definition but with gun violence archives definition where basically anytime a gun goes off in america it's it it balloons up to 305 mass shootings uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so he went through the numbers and he found out that 277 of the 305 quote-unquote mass shootings were actually disputes where you know people were
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): confronting
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): each other basically and decide to start shooting and usually that goes down to gang shootings uh 20 of the shootings were familiar You know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): violence within the home, you know, either a guy shooting his kids or, I mean, obviously it wasn't the lady who was strangling the kids because that wouldn't have qualified, but 20 involved families, five weren't even shootings with a motive. So that wasn't people that were specifically trying to kill a large number of people, but three out of the 305 actually qualified as mass shootings. so this shows you how
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): desperate the anti-gunners are to push gun control is that they will do whatever it takes to blow up as the numbers as big as possible to incite fear in the public
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't care about the truth they don't actually care about saving people they only want you to be afraid and that the answer to you being afraid is to vote for more gun control
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i get so sick of them using the gun violence archive and shit like that like yeah three shit three things actually happened the rest of it was gang violence guess how we get rid of the other 302
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's crazy how that would work out and it's it's been insane to watch major news networks across the board i even fox included citing gun violence archive like there's some kind of reputable source like they were literally started from basement dwellers and reddit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be propaganda that was the entire point of that web page
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it just blows me away
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah fucking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so lame man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so paul legally armed america keep up the good fucking work man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah good
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dude really uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a lot when our channel got deleted
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking awesome dude uh last one here on the docket uh goes back to the georgetown uh professor william english who's kind of the the new hotness when it comes to doing really accurate uh firearm related surveys uh and in his new survey it puts defensive gun use at 2.2 million times a year which is awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh so recently the cdc actually had to restore a section in its uh web page that dealt with defensive gun use because and get this specifically the people the organization gun violence archive emailed the biden administration and had the defensive gun section that showed that there was good numbers for defensive gun uses they had those removed so again
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these fucking redditors had that shit removed and now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): got put back in because fuck those guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did you know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): savage that chat gpt has now removed all reddit from all training data and all knowledge yeah in all of their models
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they should reddit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking cesspool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's the worst place in the world yeah it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a cancer filled up by pedophiles and yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean i i show you how like i got banned twice the last couple of weeks from two different subreddits yeah it's stupid uh anyways so uh the agency's site uh cdc now cites a range of between 60 000 to 2.5 million dgs per year drawing from uh the report priorities for research to reduce the threat of firearm related violence i think that was in like 2013 that came out so english's estimate sits high in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that range his survey pegs hit pegs annual dgus at roughly 2.2 million up from his 2021 figure and just shy of criminologist gary cleck's influential 1993 number which that should probably be looked at with a grain of salt though it's closer than the the anti-gunners would like um so that fits the one to three million uh three million band reported over the past three decades by pollsters including cnn the washington post gallup uh post gallup and pew according to the reload um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the important thing to look at here is that in previous ones you know the survey that the anti-gunners cite all the time they say they only counted a defensive gun use if the person was shot and killed by a gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the most dumbest fucking definition of a defensive gun use ever uh so the the important takeaway here is that most dgus never involve a shot you don't have to shoot somebody to use a gun defensively uh the survey backs up a finding gun owners already know from experiences that pulling a gun is you What ends the threat? English reported that in 76.3 percent of defensive incidents, the gun was never fired. Displaying it accounted for 50.9
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): percent of cases and threatening to use it another 25.3 percent. So this evidence is probably going to be cited and I think already is being cited by Harmeet Dillon for the case of the quote-unquote assault weapons ban going up in front of the Supreme Court come this fall. so with this kind of recent data that is way more accurate than the shit the anti-gunners can put up obviously
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because if they're saying there's 305 fucking uh mass shootings in a given year and it only ends up being three i think we know who's a little bit fucking closer to the real numbers here so this is this is just more good stuff that's in our favor
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): totally agree man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): good that there's people other than whatever his nuts is i can't even remember his name the one that everyone gets all crazy about that was fraudulently like filling his up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh that was that was john lot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): john
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lot thank you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like literally having people or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he logged in as someone else making
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all making all the counts and then like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): having conversations with himself i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was like i don't even know how
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to say
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this he was having conversations with himself with fake accounts
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah fuck
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): off weirdo
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yep
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so that's pretty much what i got for this week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hell
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah that's great uh speaking of all those self-defense uh things even when it goes your way sometimes it may not and second call defense is the way to uh to protect yourself for what comes after the the incident uh you can go to we like shooting.com scd
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very inexpensive and one of the cool things is that second call defense even covers you for uh unintended discharges things like that accidental discharges so you know you're cleaning your gun you make a fucking bad mistake and you know you have to you have legal issues after that fact second call defense covers that stuff so again we like shooting.com scd jeremy time for reviews
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): organic nut milk producer from new york gross from organic nut milk producer five stars four squares three hexagons and two octagons good review
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): best
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): damn gun podcast in the known universe some other podcasts eg rimming fire radio have horrible audio but yours is a1 plus good too bad your new post copyright strike bumper music sucks ass though
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): water an illiterate pacific northwest stoner with a robotic laugh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the literally giant ranting redneck the guy you want defending america thank you for your service
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i want jeremy defending america
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): .A. Ron, the absentee Jew who actually makes Jeremy entertaining.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the Brainiac or Nick the Brainiac of the bunch who is apparently incapable of pronouncing oddie or octagonal correctly.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): We
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one too.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I believe we did.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): C
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): .N. the leader, an excellent coder, Pew Locker.
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): some of that but not all of it
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ryan h says five out of five squares
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): oh wait no sorry i skipped one never mind uh review from anonymous coward from oregon fife egg walls me love you long time say back okay bye loves from the biggest egg wall this is why i love the reviews okay now ryan h says five out of five squares the gun podcast that hits harder than your Axe's new boyfriend's insecurities. Look, I've listened to my fair share of gun podcasts. Most of them
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): are lukewarm coffee, technically functional, but you're left wondering why you bother. Then there's We Like Shooting, the chaotic group chat that somehow got Mike's sponsors and a cult following. Agency 171 representing you beautiful degenerates.
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): isn't just a podcast. it's what happens when a bunch of armed misfits who actually know their stuff decide to get drunk and talk about current events, gear, guns and whatever fresh hell the news cycle vomited up that week episode 666 delivers an absolute banger of a song that slaps wait
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have no idea you faggot
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you Jeremy
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see 666
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got the fucking 404 error which makes me laugh every time
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you you guys have seen it right
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): middle one was pretty funny to me um it was i agree um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tough choice this week
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna go with anonymous coward from oregon all right five egg walls
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i you know what i got to do this weekend what i got to meet larry korea
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my god how did we not talk about that
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know but i just thought about it
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i walked up to him at the thing at the book signing and i was like do you remember me and he was like i meet a lot of people and i'm like no i get that i totally get that i said we like shooting podcast and he goes hey yes yes i remember that i love your guys's shirt it hides my gun very well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay that's awesome
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he goes i still wear that shit i saw him on another podcast or something and he had a we like shooting shirt on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nice christo we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): should randomly send him another one
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh get one of nick's uh nice shot right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah probably
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): find that funny
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'd send him one hell yeah uh all right so anonymous coward from oregon email automated we like shooting.com and christo will get you your winnings for the rest of you you can either text your name and review to 743-500-2171 or i highly recommend go to welikeshooting.com slash dashboard click on reviews and leave your review there uh some special treats on that page that i think are pretty fun and you can look through all 2 000 of the reviews we've gotten in our history which is a fucking lot for a gun podcast holy shit i was looking at some
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): reviews for other gun related podcasts on itunes and it's like seven so like
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know just to see like where our reviews kind of stacked up and i think out of 2000 almost 2000 reviews we're at 4.8 stars which is pretty cool so anyway
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): leave us through reviews we we appreciate it and uh shit that's gonna do it for this episode of we like shooting boys uh check out bowers group get some awesome cans nick was talking about the asp 45 which is a really really cool can uh bowersgroup.com coupon code wls saves you money join gun owners of america and uh support a no compromise gun rights group you can go to we like shooting.com slash sponsors and click on gunners of america from there
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to get your bonuses join the agency agency 171.com that's how you can support the show and uh yeah the the more people that we get there the less sponsors the and ads that that i have to do ultimately uh that that is the goal is to
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know do less of that and and honestly just yeah do the the crowdfunding crowd support thing i think it's been A good way to go. Suicide prevention line number is 988. You can dial that from your phone. You can text it. You can message it. You can call it. You can do whatever you need to. We want you here fighting the fight with us, fighting the battles that we're all going to face as the radical left tries to, you know, steal our country. So
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Nick (reference, not reviewed): hope that you'll be there.
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hope that you always prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery even when you're scared be tough fight on we'll see you next time we love you goodbye
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): podcast has been a production of the Firearms Radio Network For more, visit firearmsradio.net