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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): aaron and jeremy too savage and nick bringing it to you talking guns and having fun we like shooting we're out of control some we like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): welcome to we like shooting episode 677 you heard it right we've got a new cast for you tonight different cast a little bit uh first off my name's sean i'll be here hanging out with you all night and hanging out with the rest of us is going to be jeremy pozderick from river's edge tactical in valley city ohio you should go rent some machine guns there uh buy some ammo shoot at the range it'd be a lot of fun i promise we also have savage one r he's going to be doing the news telling us what you know keeping us up to date on everything that's going on in the gun world taking nick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lynch's place uh we have dave from life fire media podcast and the firearms radio network also of high point like i'm just gonna say it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's not representing
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): high point right now of course but you know he does uh do a lot of representing with them uh on the day-to-day basis
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): muted jeremy
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not saying he's gay i'm just saying he's seen one up close
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh last but
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have paul from foxtrot mike joining us again tonight uh glad to be here with you guys how's paul how's everything going out there
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): great man appreciate you having me back on the show it's good to be here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you sent me an email and I was like oh shit there's a lot going on here we should get you on Outlaw says
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh Jesus
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean Damn
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Outlaw says
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): which one is Paul
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): from FM and which one is Dave from High Point hard to tell and Junior Mag in the chat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): said Dave we're going to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have to check our jeans and see if I love you so right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and then junior mag said the baldwin with glasses
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): oh man dave how's everything going
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm good man i can't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): complain i've same old shit different day i couldn't have and now i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can't yeah exactly
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's like uh i gave up an evening with my family for this and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now i regret it pretty
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): listeners are brutal
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): oh man well let's go ahead get into it have some fun and uh yeah let me just press this button here
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): still going in the chat dusky yeah who's the bald guy with the beard and glasses yeah that joke's already been done bud
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know what to tell
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you jackass first
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): up brought to you by foxtrot mike but since we have paul here let's just get right into it and start talking about what's been going on my first question paul isu nine uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it coming
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the hell man it's been a minute um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh ordered a bunch of everything was done
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we ordered a bunch of seamless uh stainless steel tubing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh we pre-paid for it and then the material number showed up so we started lighting that company on fire ended up being a company called thyssen crop and they ended up uh stepping up and getting the material shit we should get it here this week and we'll cut it to length and send it to night drive so we're probably two weeks away from uh doing production so probably three weeks away um we built we did a limited run of a few hundred uh we appears to be a good amount of demand for it you know
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 4.99 it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hard
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to argue with the math of that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're just going to try and make sure we manage the project in such a way that it's a good launch, a good stable launch. We have interest in demand with a couple large partners, and we'll probably bring it to Primary Arms first. They've been a good partner for the last decade, and so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): interest there. So we're going to want to support the partners that support us. So we're definitely going to serve primer arms first, and then you'll probably end up seeing it silencer shop after that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Wow, you guys are doing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the exact opposite thing in Staccato.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What's that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh, I like it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You're actually
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): supporting their partners.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah. Fair,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fair. True.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): How
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): often
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): does like material stuff happen like that? I mean, it's got to be pretty regular, right? Because I know that, you know, the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): suppliers,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they're sending a lot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of shit out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the tariff ain't helping, man. I don't tell you, like Canada is like, we don't make stuff here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't make anything really here. And we get a lot of our,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my material has gone up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 200
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): %
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): material costs in the last,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know, five years. that's been doubled in the last probably year, and we get a lot of aluminum from Canada. It's just not something we make.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's just the nature of North America, man. We used to be a country that made stuff. We just don't do that anymore. We got Starbucks. mean, why would we make anything?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's been really difficult to maintain the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pricing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Materials are increasingly more difficult to get for those reasons.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so tariffs ain't helping you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that is a crazy
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): standpoint you know i'm just saying it like it is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah 100
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i mean all the all that shit's painful i mean just going to the grocery store right now is incredibly painful
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): tell
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): me man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): everything like everything
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ground
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): beef what the hell man i'm 62 i feel like i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 150
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now when i look at the price of ground beef i know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we talked about this like a couple months ago but it was like uh and of course jeremy's gonna be like well you gotta get your own cows or buy a whole side of beef or whatever but like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i mean yes
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i think i paid 12 a pound for ground beef the other
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): day oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): come on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bro
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it costs here
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): high yes there's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): cows
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): everywhere that bad
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): drive an hour outside of town to find a fucking farm to table fucking ranch and i get cheap you'll get a fucking beef way cheaper than that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know i just really needed dinner that night
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): plan
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ahead motherfucker
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): excuse
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah like i just needed dinner and so i freaking had it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): delivered and it was like 12 bucks goddamn
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): warehouse oh you had it delivered but i fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you i paid
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 12 bucks a month for delivery so it's like free delivery
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): grocery is great
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bro i haven't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): been to the grocery store in years
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i like to go to the grocery store
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're crazy no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like to like see what's there and like what like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like i inevitably i'm gonna forget something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like i like to walk around i like to see what's there and like oh i'd like to try that oh maybe what if i try one of these like i mean now granted i don't buy a lot of like pre-made food at the grocery store these days i i tend to make a lot of it myself but you know i look for deals man if potatoes are under five dollars for 10 pounds i'll buy like 50 pounds i'll be like 50 bags of it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where you freeze them yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just make french fries and freeze the sons of bitches
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i got a whole production you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you can see those deals online
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you literally can you can also see the potatoes on their website i know that that is a crazy thing like what a future time we're living in but you can see the potatoes on their website
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like i you know i mean i realize i live you know where farmers are more than you do sean but like yeah you know like you know we both grind our own wheat yeah so if i'm driving down the road and i see people like running a fucking combine putting wheat berries into a fucking semi-truck i'll pull over with two five gallon buckets be like how much to fill these and the one guy i had one guy go we spill more than that just give me the bucket bro
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we went to a farmer's market uh a few weekends ago and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there was there was
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): only two freaking booths that sold vegetables and i swear to god they just got them at costco like it sucks yeah things have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): things have changed in a shitty area goals
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you went to or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no that one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was a lot of vegetables nick and i went to the one at goals it was pretty odd better in goals no i'm just kidding it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sounds like you uh just where you live sucks
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh losing its luster by
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the day you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can oh bro i'm
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to ohio
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i know so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he's told
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you enough times man i know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): well then i'm afraid jeremy would make me lift heavy shit all the time
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): see you'll
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lose weight right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm like i have 72 jobs already i don't need 73
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): come on you get to hang out with me and fucking you know that would be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): best part and run in shed
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that would be the
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): part
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Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on i got a spare room till you guys find a place wife said it's okay you know
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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): doogie it's good for you sean shut up not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wrong
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so paul material stuff like absolutely crazy is that going to affect the price of the isu nine or is it still coming out at 499
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're going to honor that we we really um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no fun to say but you know we're we're gonna just Just tighten our belt. As we've done, we haven't really, you know, we came out with a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well-designed PCC platform that's cost-effective. And we really haven't raised the price much at all. And we've just kind of taken it in the chops as material goes up. And everything, labor's going up. Everything's going up.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Finding
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good people is expensive.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Keeping
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good people is expensive, especially in manufacturing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know we're always looking for um skilled uh talented people that are switched on and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): usually
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just you know it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): guess at the end of the day it's just a it's a philosophy we have that we're just here to serve blue-collar people and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure dave can relate to that with with what he does and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know their their business model i can respect because they're trying to
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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure that blue-collar people can
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a way to protect themselves from something they'll bump in the night, and I really appreciate that they do that. Oh, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Look
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): them out.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100%. So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we do the same thing. It is what it is. It's a necessary evil. We don't intend to... We won't raise our
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): prices.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We'll just suck it up and tighten our belts a little bit more, but it's an economy of scale like anything else. We'll be fine. uh we'll be fine yeah we're doing well we have a lot of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know what we're doing kind of resonates with the current economy yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know the value proposition for a consumer and the quality and stuff and you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): our
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stuff runs super safeties and now people are putting suppressors on them and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know they run suppressors and super safeties and people seem to really like that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sure do yeah they really do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): foldy boy has the rmb in it i know last time you're on. You said you were working on the 5.56 version, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just finished
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 4,500 rounds of fallout of testing on this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for a high
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): car.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't know if you guys can see this as well.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): High
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): car project we're doing for military testing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this is the, I should take a look in here. never even
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a look at this bad boy. It is incredibly effective in 5.56. six we found that it reduced the cyclic rate down to about 650 so it's like shooting an ak an ak nice um which is nice i like that um so it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really you know we we kind of compared it to a uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): h3 and it was it was superior
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was you know an h3 really gives you a good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): profound effect on the gun when you're running suppressed in full auto.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): See
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if I can get this bad boy out of here. Sucks getting old.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you say that again?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I don't have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a good light in here, but yeah, I've got one in the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I can get this bad boy out of here. I've got to find a way.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): One moment, please. that's the so that's the recoil mitigation buffer that's in the uh the foldy boy lowers the nine millimeter pcc lowers that we have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this one is for a 556 so it's uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): unique it's tiny little thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm gonna need a screwdriver um one moment
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah while he does that when when jeremy like you've noticed shooting your isu like just that the recoil impulse is like it's hard to explain like and i'm not saying like nine millimeter recoil is a lot or anything it's just like a different
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): impulse no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): because in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ars are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty violent
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): in
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): general with
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): direct blowback carving you have a lot of mass that has to get moved around because you need that much mass and spring tension because there's no locking mechanism with the the bleed off system whatever you want to call it that the isu 9 is which i can say that now because it's all released
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh the bleed off system that they have that drops the pressure thus lowering your need for weight and spring tension or as much as a traditional ar9 an arp um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): even in any other pc carbines you know marlin camp guns shit like that you needed a big you know tommy gun fucking four pound goddamn bolt flying back on a fucking spring
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just a lot of mass to move around
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they they get chunky man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): well yeah and you have to because you need you need equal opposite reaction but so with bleeding off the pressure with the integrally suppressed upper you don't need the mass and the tension that you otherwise would which makes for a smoother it's not really smoother it's just a less weighty impulse you just have less mass flying around i mean my
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sten gun is like Like, I mean, my stand gun's a two-pound bolt just bouncing. Nothing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in the spring, but just fucking don't.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Clack, clack, clack, clack, clack, clack, clack, I mean, you can feel that bitch just moving back and forth versus an MP5, which has like an eight-ounce bolt.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sure. Yeah, you can't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have a direct blowback with like a standard polymer lower. It'll just rip the fucking lower in half. I told you that,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): motherfucker,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and you were like, ah, we'll see. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): called that shit, too.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 3D
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): printed a lower and he said he was going to put an
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): AR no no I didn't print a lower was that just somebody's polymer one yeah that was somebody and I was like it's going to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): crack right here and you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): were like we'll
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): see
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right there
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): first fucking day
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that was a little plump crazy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it was definitely a day might have been it was a while ago it was a long
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): time ago
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah it was years ago
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the um the recoil mitigation buffer has two distinct things that you know jeremy's 100% right we do bleed off a lot of that um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pressure spike in the barrel venting out the front of the barrel but we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really need a heavy buffer with reciprocating mass to kind of reset the trigger reliably so to speak
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're shooting full auto or super safety or something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the recoil mitigation buffer um it helps with the recoil when the bolt is in the full rearward position and also when it goes into battery because there's two portions to a recoil cycle one is when the all the inertia is going back and one's when all the mass is going forward
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so we have one you know we the recoil mitigation buffer compresses and then the internal portion terminates against a silicone puck at the end of its stroke so you really greatly reduce the recoil stroke at the rearward portion and then when it goes forward um that unsprings and then you gain the benefit of um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the reciprocating mass shutting the bolt so it's kind of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was surprisingly simple concept really hard to engineer to get it to work
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really simple concept and then we did it in the 556 and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): basically
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just tried to mimic an h3 mass and kind of fit it in the footprint of a standard buffer which we did and those will be on the market in probably a month um i mean you got to run an a5 tube but it really really transforms a full auto ar when you're shooting it suppressed which is a thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): people don't realize
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know look
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): military doesn't test
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ar's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): full auto with a suppressor they just don't they have a solve for that you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh if you shoot an ar full auto three four hundred rounds concurrently you'll destroy the chamber it's just the nature of it you'll get plasma degradation at the at the throat you know you hit you hit 400 rounds full auto fire without letting the gun cool your guns toast your your barrels toast
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an ar
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just just real talk so we really thought about that a long time ago we really wanted to do uh something to support people's desire to do full auto super safeties all those things that are becoming more legal now and we fortunately did that a long time ago so we're really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): excited
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about this and i don't know i sent you some full auto video of us
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): firing and the recoil is very pleasant um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did a we're doing some
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): high
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): car testing for the military now for a platform we developed and uh we did 4500 rounds of 900 round cycles and then we did accuracy testing and they and it held up shot shot a pretty good group at the end of that uh so we're really really proud of that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that video it's like uncut video too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): long and it was live streamed so it was one long one long cut from beginning to end
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we would do um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know we'd shoot a certain we'd shoot 150 rounds um we let the gun cool to ambient temperature and rinse and repeat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um you know if you study military testing it's you know between 90 and 90 a lot of times it'll be 90 rounds with uh with the second uh one second intervals so a lot of times when they do testing you're not even doing a full auto
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they'll
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do full auto at the end they'll do some presser testing but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did um we did uh many many thousands of rounds full auto and it worked worked really well so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): anybody remember the old testing that lucky gunner did like 15 years ago
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): vaguely yeah i think so yeah they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): got got 20 of the same rifles and then they got like 20 000 rounds of different kinds of ammo for like each one of the guns and they just fucking burned them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): until they fucked it. That
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was more so, it was like the ammo, wasn't Like steel case versus brass case.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What you save in the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): steel case, you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can run. that.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And essentially, the steel jacketed ammo, not case, jacketed ammo, the bimetal jacket, within a thousand rounds of barrels were smooth.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Because super
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hot barrels, you know, I don't know if anybody, I don't know if the people listening know this, but when you put hot steel versus cold steel, one's harder than the other one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the hotter you get your barrel, the more per shot degradation you get.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): You don't say.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it's weird how that works. that is weird it's almost like steel gets pretty soft when it gets fucking hot so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): transformative temperature for an ar is around a thousand degrees so if you see a color change in the barrel you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just all that work that somebody went to making the barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you just you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ruined
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like all that work all that process stress relieving all the all the heat treating on the materials it's all gone you just shot it away um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): why that's why you can replace a saw barrel like how often do you replace a barrel on the saw 300 rounds isn't that what's uh i don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know it's quick it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): depends on the situation um yeah yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): as long as you're not running like we're being overrun cyclic rate shoot that thing till it fucking melts and throw it away yeah um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): melted a i melted a 240 barrel for shits and giggles one time yeah we were when i was in the marines we were i was a 240 gunner in my unit and um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't get me wrong i didn't do anything cool i'm not fucking like super guy here um but i was 240 gunner in my unit because we had to pull our own security and we had a barrel and we were we were doing live fire we were like training and the one barrel just i was like i can't fucking hit dick with this thing like fucking bull it looks like a shotgun coming out of the fucking barrel like tracers man they're just fucking everywhere so fucking top comes over and he fucking cracks a barrel off and looks down it and it's just smooth um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lord
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lord knows how many fucking rounds went through this fucking barrel because it's not like we're in a combat unit we're a fucking uh we're i was in a landing support battalion we were the guys that set up beach heads but we just didn't get our own security so we had to pull it i mean for a poke unit we had a shit ton of cool stuff in our armory
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i don't know many other guys that were qualified on a mark 19 and a 240 in a fucking poge unit and uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so he's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like you guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): want
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): something really cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): we're like yes he goes link up like link up like five belts six
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're like so we're like all right we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking put like 1200 rounds together and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's like it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like over there right then so we had to like three guys like walking it towards the gun because the gun can't drag that much weight and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like just fucking just fucking hold it down i'm like all right but the barrel starts glowing red i'm like he goes let go so i let go and this gun starts going pow
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pow
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): oh yeah he's like grab it again and fucking and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): grab
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the trigger
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it jammed a couple of times but it got too hot to like fucking function right so i just kind of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): broke
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the belt and threw it away
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking rolled off to the side and you could literally and the barrel was glowing red i mean it was fucking cherry red it was like eight or nine hundred rounds into it and it was this thing was just fucking glowing and you could watch it ever so subtly go oh when it hard and it and the and like you could literally watch like little like it almost looked like you could watch the bullets go down the barrel because you could see like this little black thing holy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): shit
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): down the barrel it was so fucking hot uh i wish we would have had a thermometer because it was just fucking hotter and shit i'm like i'm pretty sure we broke both air equipment
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100 and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh but yeah the barrel was shot out anyways it was like all right just leave that thing to cool off and we were like holy fuck
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): dude he
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): goes and that's why we change our barrels yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): makes it makes sense quick change barrels too right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah it's a button and you just crack it off throw it on throw another one yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): paul
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you said
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): were doing those tests for high car
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what we did uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is that i i think i like the only thing i recall about that is i think the the h is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hypervelocity or something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hypervelocity
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is like the new key thing that people want and they're trying to overcome type 3 armor and they're trying to get up of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): certain velocity of of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bullet and uh and i think you're at 60 kpsi with the standard brass case and now there's companies out there shell shock and sig other companies making ammo that can handle 80 to 100 so we're we're working with some companies right now We to test some of those ammunitions because the one-piece barrel, it's got an AR-10 size barrel extension. It's got an AR-10 size bolt. It's kind of perfectly designed for the HICAR
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): project.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know one piece barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): extensions machined into the barrel muzzle devices machined into the barrel gas blocks machined into the barrel and then we came up with something really cool which is a labyrinth seal
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as you can see a very i don't know if i can see it's a very tiny hole but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): created a this is the gas block
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): basically you put the labyrinth seal in the whole
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and then you can vary the gas port size quickly if you need to but you what the real reason you're doing that is because you want a very very
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gas seal and you've created in effect you've created a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): convoluted pathway
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's super cool so for the people who are listening so basically most of the gas block is machined into the barrel and then there is a part that goes on top of the gas block and it's indexed or keyed by this labyrinth seal is that is the labyrinth seal is that metal
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's a labyrinth seal yeah okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if a guy if a guy did need to make minor changes on the fly you can do it very quickly and efficiently although we really haven't needed to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): haven't really had to during testing it's been pretty the real the real reason you do it is you're trying to make sure that you're creating a very convoluted pathway for the gas it's trying to escape as it's expanding and it really does a good job of capturing the gas which is why you call it a labyrinth seal right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh so we're able to make the gas port very small
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're capturing all the gases using to drive the system so yeah it's one of the reasons
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and then quite
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a lot of it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the top of that bolts down into the barrel using that seal to index or key it and then because you know normally on a gas block you have like an oversized port that goes over the the hole in the barrel and this way you don't have that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did cool we did cooling fins on the gas block i think it's a little overkill we'll probably test
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): test
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): other
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm i want to do a remember the old
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): old um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): machine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): guns in the 50s they did that had the cooling fins on the barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): remember that um i've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seen pictures
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there was those really really expensive machine guns in world war ii that we made they were crazy expensive i forget the name because i'm so old
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but they were thompson maybe um and they had finned barrels we'll probably do something like that just to see if it benefits anything
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just to keep the gun cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know a lot of people don't realize the benefit of a and they are a 10 size barrel extension is you don't have a truncated feed ramp
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're trying to match
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): feed ramp on the barrel extension to the upper you cut the whole thing in there then you can see there's a little flat there that's an indexing point so we slide it into the upper it's thermal fit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so you don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): need a barrel nut but we do a barrel nut anyways
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then wow
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the bolt
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so you know you've got less stress risers because you don't have any sharp edges and that's an ar10 size bolt head on an ar um i don't know if you can kind of see the difference here it's kind of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you can
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so much bigger look how yeah that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing's way bigger
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's so beefy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy this is the thing that you're always talking about like getting these you know for any caliber other than 223 or whatever like getting a much beefier bolt that doesn't you know isn't going to split or break after
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a few hundred rounds yeah we're told
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you not to worry about
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gonna we're gonna do something for for people as an aftermarket thing with an ar-15 size barrel extension and we'll still maintain that there's a lot of benefits to not having any sharp edges like where this would normally be a broached item um you know you've got less stress risers there's 100 different reasons why we've never broken a bolt lug uh never had any never had that failure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then we came up with a new way to kind of overcome there's there's two main failures there's actually three there's extractor breakage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we have a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hard to explain but we We we've
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): introducing a rivet into the barrel extension so that when the bolt is in battery, the bolt, the extractor cannot move because the rivet is resting upon it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's that's one failure mode, which is an extractor will want to break
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a gun is. Under high use. And what's trying, what the extractor is trying to do is it's trying to, if it has egress, the head of the extractor will want to rotate and break the claw off, which is one failure mode you see.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we overcame that in the high carb project with a rivet and the barrel extension.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the other place you see breakage is on the lug of the bolt, which we overcame with the design of the bolt.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the third place you see a failure is on the cam pinhole.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we added material to that section of the bolt
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well. um, to reinforce that. So all the stuff we're doing, we were thinking about this years ago and then the high car project came online and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we were approached by a few
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): three
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): letter agencies. I don't know what you're talking about groups. Yeah. Yeah. The people and they, they came, um, and so we're doing testing for them and it's going well. Um, but yeah, we just trying to,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): School of the American Rifleman
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Gaston really taught me a lot. And I really, School of American Rifleman, I encourage you guys all to watch his page.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And I've learned, so I've been doing this 30 years and I've learned so much from him. Just really a fire hose of knowledge for anyone who cares about making a good product or how to qualify a good product. But I owe them a lot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): learned a lot from them. We'll probably try and pony up some money to do a class here at some point. and i'll probably invite a bunch of influencers to come take it because he's very uh i don't if you know have you have you ever seen his content he's he's really oh yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tar class is actually something i've been thinking about a lot lately
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we'll probably book i'll i'll invite you guys up and we'll do a when we do it we'll do a so tar class up here maybe
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that that would be freaking awesome can i share the the thing you sent that shows like this this new upper with all the features you were just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): talking about sure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): go for it so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this one right uh that one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so like i was talking to the guys about it because you know we get excited about this kind of stuff but it's like fixing but not even fixing it's just like improving so many of the things that people complained about through the years on an ar upper and the barrel system and things like that but yeah just having
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know the ar10 size receiver extension, the keyed, uh, receiver extension. And then not only is that keyed so that you don't have to like, you know,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): try to fit your
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): barrel. Yeah. And it's not just using a tiny little nubbin that goes into a little slot in the receiver, but it's thermal fit. And then also keyed there. Um, and then I was looking at the labyrinth seal, just kind of, you know, trying to figure out like, what difference does this actually make? You know, how is this very different? And And like I was saying, you have like the big oversized port in the gas block that just kind of covers the hole. And then you have differing zones of high and low pressure as the gas moves up
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): through that system. And just with this labyrinth seal, you're losing less gas. So you're going to get a more consistent ejection pattern, just like basically the whole firing of the barrel. You said that you put the cooling fins directly around the gas box. You're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): increasing the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): surface area of the hottest part of the barrel. and that's going to help pull some of that heat away as it just dissipates into the increased surface.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): steel
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): feed ramps that are all directly in it because you have the oversized chamber area, that's awesome. For all the people who have put an AR together, installed the barrel, put the barrel nut on, and then literally just have your rounds nosedive because the transition sucks so much from the receiver into the feed ramp on the barrel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So hard to do. Right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): And it's happened like a thousand times. Like I've have several guns that to this day still do it. And it's like, you know, basically kind of dremel them out and polish them and try to get it, get it going. This solves that whole problem. Uh, like Jeremy's always saying, if you want to do like bigger calibers, like six, five grindel or stuff like that, you know, the walls on the bolt face get so thin that you have reduced lifetime. So now you don't even have to worry about that because you have basically an AR 10 or an oversized bolt head and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): with tons of material you take the sharp edges off so that you don't have as many stress points like it's just uh i was talking to nick about it actually uh just talking about how it solves so many of the things that are just less than ideal about an ar and i think it's freaking awesome um so that barrel project is coming but then now you're going to be doing some some gen two uppers too right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so we're doing a we're doing a you know the kids are going to want something more mil-spec. So this has a traditional AR-15 bolt, but still gains the benefit of the AR-10 size bolt head
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): barrel. And then we're going to do an AR-15 version of it. So a guy could buy the bolt, but we'd sell the bolt and the barrel together. You know, this is an adjustable carrier. It's adjustable.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's kind of got, you know, listen, I'm not a guy who's a fan of adjustable gas blocks. I'm just not. I had a major mistake of making a 30-click adjustable gas block.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Don't do that ever. Don't ever do that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Anyway, so, you we've got two positions. It's suppressed. It's unsuppressed.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then if a guy wants to adjust a little more he could you know to really get the recoil down he could play we could make a series of uh just switch the uh switch the gas switch labyrinth seal out really easily you take an allen wrench you loosen two screws you slide up the gas block you put a new one in your back going again it takes literally five minutes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gives
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you a lot of modularity we haven't really messed with it that much uh we're seeing really good soft recoil and runs with a wide
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): amount
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of ammunition it's it's pleasant to shoot i don't i'm sure i could squeeze a little more recoil out of it but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's it's shooting pretty well for a full auto runner full auto
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the recoil is very pleasant
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i want that in 450 bush master in a ranch rifle style
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wood
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): furniture that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): badass the whole thing's badass
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is like yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): super impressed by i uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): spent a couple hours honestly looking at the looking at the stuff and just you know comparing it to original stuff and really just like doing some you know like what benefit does this actually provide and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a lot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 15
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): less parts than an ar man i don't know how to argue with that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's uh every every time you pull a part off it's it's uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know you see guns getting hyper more complex every i see a lot of guns just getting more and more complex i just don't understand it adding parts to the bomb and stuff like that and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i said school of the american riflemen and guston really inspired me uh in the last 10 years of design we're you know i've doing this a long time and um and uh i really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was really influenced by them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah last
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 10 years
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really cool this is a one-piece barrel so it'll have an integrated plan b compatible flash hider and also port break at some point yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we do a break but i i just think most people would prefer a flash hider
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you go i think people with that process of they think of breaks badass then you come back to a flash hider that that's all you really need
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): classic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is fine yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so plan b is the q the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): q version and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then uh i think nick's only request was that you do a half by 28 as well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we do we are we are doing that cool and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because again you know look we're we're going to do i think the kids now are kind of leaning towards plan b that seems to be the unless you guys tell me i'm wrong
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've almost just going to plan b stuff that's just simplicity like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy you use the griffin stuff right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like the griffin dual lock um plan b is nice
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): used uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): direct thread most things just honestly because i'm so sick of all the qd systems that suck like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i have i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): chemo now
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if this shit goes and suppressors become you know just fucking title one shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna put a can on every fucking thing like it's just gonna have its own shit like i i don't even care if they're made out of like fucking a36 mild steel like i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): give a fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right there's fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): melted down pop
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): cans if it lasts for 5 000 rounds i don't give a shit if i'm 50 i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): give a fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we have a patent for a hundred dollar suppressor that works
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we just think you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): make
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it like in russia they're disposable right yeah um maybe there's maybe there's a market for that oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): could sell
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if i could sell suppressors for under 100 bucks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it was just a 4473 or nothing bro send me a hundred of them i'll get rid of them next week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like seriously not
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): even like seriously it would be like all i need is like a bunch of fucking uh i don't even care if they're direct thread or they have like interchangeable like they could be they don't even have to have like interchangeable threads just send me 50 30 cal ones and 55 5 6 ones i will literally screw one onto every gun i have that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): has
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and just sell them
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like that yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like every fucking cheap ar is just gonna get one printed onto the top of it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no matter what
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it comes with that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): actually that's that's a great that's a great that's a great thought though uh that you could just start selling guns with suppressors included. That's a great concept.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): If
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this shit, like, gets finalized and, like, we're living in a world where they're Title I or nothing, if you ship a cheap AR out and it doesn't have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to be like,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the fuck is wrong with you? You could, you know, what's it going to cost? With a CNC lathe and a cheap aluminum can, what's it going to cost you? Fucking 20 bucks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): make a fucking can if you're just cranking goddamn parts out? Like, and who gives a shit how long it lasts? Buy another one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you'd be surprised
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh it's funny either end of the spectrum the people that are buying um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know an eight eight at an amchar 349 dollar ar and a dude buying a wilson combat it's like either end of the spectrum those guys are going to be very critical but everyone in the middle is kind of more reasonable
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm not saying
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm not saying that people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): won't be people out there that want the cadillac shit i'm not saying that what i'm saying is is we have focused so long on longevity and durability because we had to right then that that won't be a thought anymore because it was so hard to get fucking two years to get a fucking
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): shit it better last
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): me the rest
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): of
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my goddamn life if i could just go buy one fuck you out you write a fucking 5 000 round warranty like that's all it gets it's 5 000 rounds and when it's fucking done like go buy another one motherfucker this is a usable part it is a serviceable item it will go away and it's 50 bucks so go fuck yourself
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think we're already kind of half seat though you get that brand out there um outlier going right here they're doing these things they're giving away basically you buy them out and you get the can for free so to speak so maybe you have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe a hundred bucks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in it and yeah i saw i have maybe a hundred bucks in this can other than my mouth i put on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's a lunum can is it gonna last me long no i'm gonna destroy this fucking thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is we actually work with that liar great yeah okay we helped them we helped them bring their nine on their five five six stuff to market believe
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it i know got
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): one of those too because like for most people like if i got a 22 in my barn right and i could buy a little 22 can for 40 bucks it sits in my barn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i pull it out when there's a muskrat i shoot that gun four times a year even if the fucking even if it was a polymer suppressor that was 3d printed with a hundred round lifespan it's gonna last me a decade you said knowingly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind of a fond of 22 magnum do you think there'd ever be a market for a 22 magnum bcc
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just think look at 10 yards it's going to wreck you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Celtic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): will make it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I like 22 Magnum I like it a lot it's great
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not really a PCC at that point because it's not a pistol caliber
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I mean I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): could make one work with the Smith and West Party Round Magazine and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): didn't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): savage make a semi-auto 22 mag rifle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know maybe no i didn't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the the company not the retard
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh if honestly if ammo was easier to get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cheaper maybe
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i still wouldn't want one i'm just crazy like that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's like i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): could
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): buy nine millimeters, chief, as I could buy a .22
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mag. Fair.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's very small.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): more
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): reliable. It's more...
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm glad you're talking me out of it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): used to shoot a .17 Mach 2. I don't know if you know what that is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): .22
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Calver.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Instead of a .22 Magnum neck down to .17, it's a .22 long rifle neck down to .17.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sounds fun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Very accurate.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It's about 500 feet per second slower than a .22 hMR and then you have the 22 wssm which its parent case was like a 19 caliber nail gun blank
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is hilarious to me
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 17 hMR is one of my favorite calibers honestly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): only
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mainly just because i have slaughtered hundreds of prairie dogs with that that's like that's my prairie dog gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah works
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are these gen
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 2 i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wish
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 204
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ruger wasn't so expensive
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude i know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it really is so are these gen 2 uh the barrels that we've been talking about are these the in the new uh gen 2 ranch rifle uppers that you were talking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about yeah we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're offering them now in limited quantities we're doing a we're doing a 16 inch version i'm gonna do a factory sbr um i really like the midwest industry stock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah me too we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gonna be offering. We'll put the adjustable carriers on the website in the near future for probably $100 so that anybody can convert there. You don't really need it, but I know people are going to ask for it. They run fine suppressed. They don't really need much modification. But, yeah, it has the same. All that technology we were just talking about, that gun comes with it out the box. And we're pretty proud of that. And the Midwest industry stock is great.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know you like your ranch rifle uh sean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i really do if they're my uh the one that has the wooks furniture is just one of my favorite guns that i own
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're gonna do some 12 and a half so i think that's the next flex we're gonna be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): making some
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): barrels in the near future uh we're working on them now and then we'll just do factory sbrs or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who knows what they're going to be called in in a month from now right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right they'll
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just be called rifles
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): A hundred percent. So you've got four different models to, I think, have the Midwest industries and to have the, what is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it? Yeah. Yeah. We'll
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): get, we'll get some more Wook stuff in here pretty quick. Um, but, uh, they're, they're, you know, they're, they're a more expensive item. They don't certainly light the world on fire the way our more inexpensive PCCs do, but we do,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do okay with them. Um, we, we do, we, they're very, uh, people really seem to like them they're the people that uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really seem to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know there's a there's a place for them you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): without question and so you've got the four different ones um and they range from like 10 49 to 11 61 i think i can't show prices
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on they're on sale right now we're we usually will when we launch something we'll put them on sale we'll do limited quantities and We'll just try and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): feed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the people the best we can with the best price we can.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not cheap to make. mean, the stock's expensive.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not as cheap to make as a blowback gun for reasons you understand.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think these are freaking awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Thanks,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man. If you're looking for something that is different but still awesome, semi-auto in all the ways, go check these out. They're on the website right now. It's the FM Products Gen 2 16.1 inch. And I think there's four
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): separate can have some with Hyperfire.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Shout out to Hyperfire.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah. My favorite triggers, honestly. And so I actually have one of the Ranch Rifles with the Hyperfire, and then I have one of them without the Hyperfire. And while I do prefer the Hyperfire, the regular one's fine. It's great.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Same, same. Don't tell an AR guy that because he's just going to get his dander up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like, I can't pull the trigger straight back. I'm like, it's not an AR, man.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i i saw people i saw
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): people talking about that i'm like are you dumb like are you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a robot and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you could buy an ar i mean i'm not trying i'm not telling you if you you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's not it's not an ar i'm like i know it's not an ar man i didn't make i make ars too everybody makes ars you buy an ar i'm not holding a gun to your head you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have plenty of those as well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was holding a gun to your head it'd be a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it would be an ar the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): trigger is like three inches more rearward than an AR. You've got to do, you can't do an AR trigger. It's a ranch rifle. The trigger is further back where your hand goes on the stock, you know, so it's not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not the same thing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I had to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bridge that gap.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): bought, I had a, I'm an Atreus dealer for the triggers and shit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they called me the other day and they were like, Hey, you need to make an order. And I'm like, you know, cause they're salesmen and shit. And I'm like, actually I do. I'm like, let's get it done so i ordered a bunch and then they told me they came out with a uh they're coming out with a uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mcx forestry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): set selector yeah and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i was like will it work in a in a regulator the ranch rifle because i have one oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the guy goes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): never tested that and i'm like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): how
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): much just send me one and let me do that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the guy goes
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): maybe i was
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i will take one of those I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really like the quality of the Atreus as compared to some of the earlier stuff that came out for Super Safety. They're just so much better engineered, better quality.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We love Atreus. I'm a fan.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was going to say, you have a relationship with them. should get them to make Ranch Rifle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): triggers. We're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): working on things. I can't let it all out of the bag at one time, but we're working on some stuff right now.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Heck yeah. Are you selling just the uppers for the, the gen two as well?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. We're selling the uppers as well. Uh, much, you know, much more,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know, better price point than a Rand triple. You could put it on an AR lower. Um,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're available
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now. I think we have some on the website as well. One-piece barrel and all that stuff.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah. I have it right here, actually. Let's see.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Cool.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Boom.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Just found
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): them right as I was asking that. And I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think these
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): are on sale, too, for $5.61.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jesus, that's a good deal.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It is. And we have a sale item coupon as well. WLS is like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a sale
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): item. Gives you another 5% off that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, for everyone that you buy, Paul has to eat ramen for the week.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sounds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good to me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i actually we should do another
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh yeah we did it we did a couple of blasts where we were doing a uh we like shooting promo code and that did well for us we'll probably do that again yeah that's freaking that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): awesome
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): truly think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know you're you know one of your big things is that you make rifles for blue collar dudes just the everyday dude that can afford you know to have a gun to have fun to shoot to to hunt to defend his family with but i think that gets lost what what gets lost sometimes is that you're really innovating a lot of stuff like you have the rmb and it's going to come out for 556 soon the isu 9 completely integrally suppressed upper for under 500 bucks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now you've got these gen 2 rifles with some of probably the first innovation i've seen in the ar market the first true innovation in a really long time like true innovation and it may not be flashy or sexy but like what they're going to get is a rifle that performs better is more consistent lasts longer um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): truly think people miss the boat on foxtrot mike and just like the innovation that you're actually doing and you know that's that's one of the things that i try to talk about all the time is like you yeah yeah they have inexpensive rifles and stuff but like you need to you need to actually dig in just a little bit. Cause, uh, not only that, but the ISU nine is, you know, you're making those to work with the Atreus, uh, FRS and, uh, yeah, I I'm really impressed with all the stuff you're doing, man. It's awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I pray, Sean. appreciate that. You know, big shout out to Doug at blowback nine. He was a big, uh, we learned a lot from him on, on integrating the super safeties and that's what consumers want. You know, and the hard part for manufacturers, how do you make a modern consumer wants a gun that runs full auto suppressed and even you know if you think about how ar is designed they were never really intended to be designed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be ran that way right so you really have to rethink
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you design an ar
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): serve modern consumers desires as the market changes all the time
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the market now is like bonkers because you know f i don't even know what the hell to call them anymore frt's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): frs's yeah they're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like uh they're coming stocking guns now that's just not a thing that people were even willing to put themselves on the line for and now we're seeing it all the time suppressors are becoming ubiquitous and you know like jeremy's wish is going to come true at some point i think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): will be true at some
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): point yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's it's crazy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh you know you all can buy this stuff obviously at fm-products.com using coupon code wls's life or wls's life sale item if something is on sale and uh paul you're gonna stick around with us right oh yeah yeah okay cool we're just gonna take a quick commercial break and talk about gideon optics real quick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my foxtrot mic isu 9 upper i do have this mediator too so it's like the you know mailbox it's on a riser that came stock with it as well and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): happy with that multi-reticle dave dave from high point has one right there as well dude nice heck yeah that's awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's been i think it's one of my favorites but then i also just got a care package
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i accidentally mentioned that i might be running low on a couple different ones and i got a couple guns in for review
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bob
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sent uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bob sent this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one this is the judge xl
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): addition we also have the valor mini which is an enclosed emitter red dot that went on this gerson cmx triple x
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): valor
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mini
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): valor mini sorry my doorbell's ringing at fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh wait minute
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wait a minute hold on he just whips something out right there hold on get that fucking back up there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was the valor mini
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing that it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): valor mini yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god dang
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hey do me a favor talk about
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh talk
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about gideon optics for a minute
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gideon optics valor mini on a i don't what the mountain is but the valor mini The beautiful on this Pulse Rifle build I've done
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): got the integrated sights built on the carry handle. But the Valor Mini co-witnesses beautifully with this thing that, yeah, it just sits right at home on my Pulse Rifle build.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know, I've looked at bigger dots because I've got the,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): crap,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm to forget the name of this one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): had this guy on top of it at one point and it worked great. I've got the Meteor XL, but the Valor Mini just fits on this thing. And yeah, Savage, I figured you'd kind of dig that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): little bit.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah, Gideon,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man. I'm hooked onto him.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What kind of, like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Magwell adapter, the fuck is that, though?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Mine? You
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): made
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You asshole?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Designed and 3D printed myself. God damn it. That is fucking dope.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Thank you. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yep. Yep.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking nerd.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A lot of work. Absolutely. hold on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hold hold on Paul's got something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah Paul what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do you got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): finally got my old eyes I finally got the this one has been this is the 556 requal mitigation buffer is the one this will be coming to market pretty soon this thing is bananas if you're running full auto with suppressor highly recommend it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): couldn't take it out because this one has a fun switch on it it's an actual full auto and then you know so I was having trouble taking it apart all the other widgets in there so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): heck
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah dude that's going to be freaking awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so it's it's the cyclic rate going to like 650 is is really transformative um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a good speed too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like that one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool i'm down for that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so these
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): check
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): out the if you're looking for red dots rifle sights long range scopes any of it gideon optics.com coupon code wls's life obviously valor mini
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): taking that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because this is a this is an officer size
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): looks 2011 basically and uh nice enclosed emitter
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really like these coupon code
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wls's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): life
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also lenny sent a 20 dollar rumble rant and said a big thanks to dave and high point for selling me the first two guns I ever bought and for laughing like Aaron.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So it's like a compliment
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and a diss all in one.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Right. It's fine. I'll take it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's irrelevant to the people who are listening, but I just got my new shirt. That was who was ringing the doorbell was Amazon at nine o'clock at night.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking great.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's uh conan yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's conan in the uh on the the sound of music mountaintop singing and it says the sound of lamentation
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wonderful but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah what is good in life
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to crush the enemies see them driven before you at the lamentation of the women
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh yeah yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man um let's see
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just looking through the show notes here seeing what we all had to talk about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay good we're working so uh i think it is time now to do some bang rank
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick isn't here so no gunfights tonight but bang rank we can do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sweet
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let me uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): get
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): over here dude my door my doorbell at the shop does not ring at nine o'clock and I couldn't quite see the camera so I was like, someone's about to get a shot.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Savage,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm saying that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how I put it. Same.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Come
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to my house at night and see how that goes for you.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Exactly.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Where
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly did you send those pictures?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Instagram.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh, okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): picture, Savage?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): swear to God, Amazon hires the dumbest motherfucker.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They hire
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what they can get, man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they can't even find the front door to my house dude they're gonna run out people they can hire because they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hiring
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and firing people so bad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): be honest the amazon dudes here are the absolute worst
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right so paul this one uh i'm not sure if uh you were if we did bang rank last time you're here but basically we're gonna i'm gonna give you guys a topic we're gonna have some options and then we're gonna rank them uh in a certain way so s is basically well here i'll I'll give you what it is first year. So tonight's bang rank is going to be most overrated brand gun brand. And this is just a few that I picked. We'll probably do a couple more of these with some different gun manufacturers and so on and so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): forth. Let me make this full screen for now. that's nice. Never mind.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): number one, Glock. Number two, Sig Sauer. Number three, H&K. Number four, Colt. Number five, Daniel Defense. Number six, FN. And number seven, Springfield Armory.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this is the most overrated gun brand. Now, if we think that this is the most overrated, we'll give them an S rating, which is like supreme. And then if they're not overrated at all, we have letter grades A, B, C, D, F. So if they're not overrated at all and they're good value and they earn the hype, then they get an F. So most overrated goes towards the top with an S and least overrated goes at the bottom with an F. now jeremy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): likes to play this in a way where you can only pick each letter grade once so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he mentioned
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i don't think
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he actually lived by
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): did it i well that's because there were seven
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did it mostly now you can do that or you can just you know you could rate every rank everything in s you could do it you could play it however you want uh but i do i do need to play the music because otherwise people get mad because they like that one so let me just play this real quick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): soon as i can find it there it is okay here we go
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right all right so once again most overrated gun brand glock sig hk colt daniel defense fn and springfield armory and again i've got more of these i have about three of these that we can do and uh i'll just go person by person number one up tonight is glock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they the most overrated gun brand and by the way it's like uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we pick a letter
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we'll pick a letter so uh and this is you know what buyers get today not the company's history s to just be living on reputation and f has uh really earned the hype so again glock uh paul i will start out with you uh as far as most overrated gun brand glock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think they're i think they're uh i'm look i was inspired by gas zone so i'm going to say f because that means they're not overrived right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): correct
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): correct
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gonna say f
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just because they work and they run um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man he
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): broke the mold and the things work and they run it's hard to argue with that a simple works you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have a feeling that uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): We'll have a little bit of debate on this one. Dave.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): won't go F, but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): go with D because, yeah, they're affordable. They work. They work well. The best thing in the world, no, but the hype, it's D.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): They're perfectly middle of the road. I don't feel like there's a lot of hype around glock other than glock fanboys like not the entire gun industry is like hyped up around glock you have glock fanboys that like blow their fucking load over them and that's all they ever fucking want but they are perfectly fine dependable guns but it's not like they're bulletproof i've seen them not work i've seen them jam and maybe by generation 10 they'll have glock perfection
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's it's it's just really weird that everybody buys them and goes oh these are great and then changes everything in
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): everything right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um okay fair fair assessment
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't think they're overhyped
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i don't think but i mean they have a good reputation if you leave the fucking thing alone perfectly fine duty
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah they're fine but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the but the triggers are garbage but again if you're not you know they'll break in they'll break in they'll work but like it's not ever because and it's only because they have that safety strike bullshit which i get why he did it back in the day i understand why it's engineered that way don't be fucking coming after me because i'm fucking talking about your fucking brand boys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): little
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking glock fan fucking glock faggots it's fucking it's a fine gun it's okay ergonomics are shit and the trigger never ergonomics or actually the gen 6 ain't bad
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gen 6 is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the only one that i've ever picked up and went like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'd actually buy one of these
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): same
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the triggers will never be good because you're doing a half cock every trigger pull
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so like it's never gonna be uh you know it's it's just never gonna be like the end all be all for like a good trigger. It's a perfectly serviceable trigger.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can make hits. They're fine. Yeah, I'd put that on the low side of metal for this one.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know, it's tough because I don't know whether to consider now or all time. But, I mean, you have to think that there have been so many fucking clones, so many 80% lowers, so many printables of people wanting to have Glocks and finding out different ways to make them and coming up with different parts. i'm it's in the b for me i mean it's it's the same glock that first glocked just slightly different glock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's nothing special but people love the shit out of it it's not bad it's not bad it's solid but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think glock as a company
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): an s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): however i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that the glock guns are exactly what everyone said completely serviceable like kind of ahead of their time marketing genius you know get it in the hands of the cops and the civilians will want it uh i think that it's not overhyped i'm going to give it a d
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see so that is everything so that's going to average us out to a d not overhyped for glock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sig
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sour
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dave
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): oh come on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): six hour shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know the fact that how much stuff they beta test us with I mean I have an MCX I love that thing it's treated me well but they change generations so often it almost kind of screws you over but they do make some good shit I'll give them an A
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): A alright
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): pretty overhyped then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all right they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty overhyped
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean look at the military trials fucking s
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wow okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is a tough one now it's not the you know the most overhyped gun model or anything it's the most overhyped gun brand paul
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i would just ask the question when's the last time they won a pcc competition with the mpx
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have they ever never
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and that but people are like you want the best pcc in the world
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a sig and that they don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're not reliable enough to make it to the end and keep running i mean it's just the math of the you know what we know what wins those competitions is blowbacks you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thousands and thousands of competitions every year and you just don't see mpx is winning it's as simple as that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's true um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know that's that's just math it's a spreadsheet it's numbers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm gonna say yes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna give this one a b because again i don't see them overly hyped especially these days
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know before the whole 320 thing maybe that would have been a little bit more overhyped but back in the day with the 226 229s i mean those are some of the greatest hammer fired double stacks that existed um we should have had six two two sixes over brett m9s yeah in my opinion um we could have we could have had fucking 226
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): look what they took from us we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have fucking italian piece of shit um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 227s 220s i mean they do make some great fucking guns um and then they've also made some
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the three or did
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they do they still make 226s
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 365 changed changed the concealed carry world I mean,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on a dime on
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a dime change the concealed carry world
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're not saying they're not one of the most prolific, successful talented companies in the world, the question is are they overhyped?
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I don't think that they're super overhyped because like I said, it's not an overhype when your one gun model comes out and everybody sells off their shit and buys your gun and as somebody that works a retail establishment how many people traded their fucking because in 2013 the smith and wesson shield was the gun to have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was the gun to have and it was the gun that i told everybody like hey man this is kind of the one that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): everybody's really fucking and then they released that 365 i couldn't tell you how many fucking shields xds is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 26
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is fucking three inch xd's you know all that shit came back
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): people, so like, that's not overhyped in that instance, but then you get shit like the fucking, some of the military trials, guns, you get the 320, which I never really liked the 320s. So like, it's kind of a mixed bag. So I can't say that it's like, you know, it's somewhere in the middle because some of the 365 and its further continuances are fucking fantastic. um to the point where like i'm never by a 320 but i sure as fuck want that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 365 legion um so like it's it's like a little overhyped it's like that high side of middle overhyped but that's only because they make a couple of guns that people really need to quit fucking you know going off over when they have other stuff that you really should be going off over so yeah i'm i'm gonna put it at the b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna go a on this one i i think that i mean man this is this is a real tough one because there was a time when you know there was the sick lovers and now there's the the sick haters and it's uh so i'm gonna give this one a which averages is out to a so six hour being pretty overhyped uh for us is an a and don't forget if you're listening live you can just scan the qr code or go to we like shooting.com slash dashboard and you can submit your votes and we'll go over those
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): at the end but additionally if you're listening to this after the fact i leave voting open for audio listeners for seven days and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that way basically you can vote for the previous week as you're listening now we did get a bunch of votes in and last week's listener votes this was the most internet overhyped cartridge so uh audio listeners were uh they rated 10 millimeter a b oh yes yes uh 300 blackout a b 45 acp a b 5 7 a c 12 gauge mini shells a c 6 5 creedmoor a c and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then 357 sig was also a c so very middle of the road on that but they they all think the 10 mill is overhyped i think we can all agree that they're right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh don't forget just go to we like shooting.com slash dashboard and click
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on bang
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): rank
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): want to point out something on those mini shells that i was defending last week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a that's a one ounce slug still going 1200 feet per second and yes you can get like big heavy loaded slugs for bigger shit that's going like 1700 but low recoil like tactical slugs even in a full two and three quarter inch are only doing about 1200 feet per second so you're not losing anything there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and i'll
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): also point out that i picked up some and they don't cycle for shit in my shotgun what shotgun do you have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an 870 knockoff oh well that's why not off yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um yeah i bought a piece of shit gun and it doesn't work
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it must be the shell everything else just fucking
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool story bro
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh and the buckshot that they the buckshot that they sell is not double lot it's number four stacked on triple lot so you're going to get a way different because uh nick was talking about the the the accuracy of the spread was weird it wasn't like a traditional buckshot yeah because i looked into it because i was like it's still going 1200 feet per second and you're still getting an ounce of lead uh it's just two different sizes of buckshot to fit in there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i still defend the mini shells
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see hnk hnk i'm gonna start this one off i think they're the most overhyped shit on the planet this is an easy s for me like honestly ptr makes better mp5s than hk ever has
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): without
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): question uh the freaking handguns that they're putting out way overhyped and yeah i just i see people proselytizing for them all the time i don't get it uh it doesn't make any sense mp5 is it like awesome platform it really truly is and every single person that makes mp5s other than hk makes them better because they've upgraded them for the modern times like fucking s i'm done with this paul
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i just uh i don't think they have enough market share to be overhyped you know i just don't think i'm going to call them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): going to call them a c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think they have their fanboys and look mp5 is like 70 80 year old design i mean yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): time to move on you know what i mean and those things are great and they're really soft shooting but they require a really high level of maintenance that people are probably aware of to keep them running reliably
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just very and when they choke they choke like when an mp5 goes down They, they're, you're done.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the, it's the extractor spring.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure is. I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually have spares.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have a baggie of 10.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh man. Honestly though, on my PTR, it's a machine gun and I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds and I never clean it. That isn't true. It like I did, I, I shot it until it failed and then I cleaned it and then it was instantly better. so like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 416 417 that's kind of cool stuff
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's well very well when you look at the uh i've had a lot of uh intimate
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hands
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): -on uh of the internal parts and they're very extremely well manufactured they really take pride in what they do that's something you said for that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): autistic german engineers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah for sure kind
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of over-engineered too some of some stuff is but uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dave
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i think you're a simp for hk right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): waiting for that call out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he currently has an
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hk butt plug
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): comment
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you have a 417 paul
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah nice yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): obviously yeah so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the mr556 is back in there the sp5 is in there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): john
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wick p30l is in there the vp9's tactical is in there the vp9 a1f is in there um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and as far as sp5 no i think these things built great but hk as a whole it's not just mp5s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i truly don't think they're that overhyped i think they are good for what you're getting out of it i think they've gotten a little pricier over the years which does kind of suck but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it i'm gonna give them an f man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i fucking knew
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dude
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's sick paul
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weighs like 20 pounds
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i know i thought about building one of the brown elves clones for a while but i'm glad i never decided to do it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my 416s attack driver though
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah dude i know they're pretty cool i just don't really have a use for it other than just wanting it because also vp9s suck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're full of shit dude i hate them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can be wrong it's okay jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i still want a usb 45
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're so cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): give me one no it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on my list
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i don't have one it's on my list
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): speaking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of your list where does hk rank and most overrated gun brand
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): okay so because there's seven i get one double
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna throw this at
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna throw this at a c c what um low side of middle again i do think they make some very nice guns again it like dave said it's not just mp5s but i'm not gonna suck their dick that hard um i i i think german customer service probably leaves a little bit to be desired but um and again it's right back to hk fanboys it's it's not the entire gun industry it's hk fanboys that are really the ones that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): are like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do make some very they've made some fucking turds over the years um but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they have made
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i fucking hate the p7
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one too i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hate that gun
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): oh those
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): guns are so cool so much
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking dumb um but again i i don't think overall like they're overhyped i think they're good guns they're a little expensive but they're not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean i'll put it yeah some of their shit's way too fucking expensive um some of their shit you're like that's a little pricey but you know they refuse to do anything like uh make them in america yeah until very recently
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah very
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): recently
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): recently
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): also the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the picture here i was just like it was the first thing that popped up when i typed in heckler and coke and uh i was like yep that's it i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): still
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i still love i still love. Thank you for calling HK customer service. Go fuck yourself.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): We hate you. Savage, rate it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A, because they suck and I hate them.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't be gay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Too late. No, seriously.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean, you know, they were cool back in the day, but they think their shit don't stink all the fucking time. A.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you've never met a German?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I don't think they come off that way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're into shit they just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): build their shit right like the pizza Minus this thing being the stupid, the John Wick thing. You know, the P30L. Dude, this thing will just run and run and run and fucking run.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It is pretty
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cool. It's just way overrated, I think. Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just my opinion. My very humble opinion.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You knew my stance, so.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Oh, I was waiting for it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Colt. What was the overall from HK?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): B. B,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Yeah. I, Dave and I basically eliminated each other and then it was
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just everyone else.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Colt, honestly, one of the biggest names in American firearms history. And Paul, I'll start with you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, uh, what's I, what a D I'd say D just because, um, they have a legacy of really, uh, most people don't realize how extensive um their inspection criteria is across all things and you can take any any cult AR and you can disassemble it and take 100 different guns apart and put them together and they'll all run they don't they don't make anything but they have some of the most stringent inspection criteria
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that we could all learn and they earned their reputation 20 years ago if you wanted an AR you bought a cult and you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and they were
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just very very well made
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god forbid if you ever tried to build a 1911 and in production what kind of living hell that must be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know what i mean so i don't know i mean i think they uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think they deserve they've they've
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): done
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a lot for the industry whether people realize it or not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we we've all uh benefited from how they um ran their business and we've all learned from what they did so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know here's the thing is like there was a time when they weren't overhyped at all they were like amazing and now it's kind of a shell of their former self so i think that you know if i was ranking cult for their entire history uh it would be a drnf but i think now they have that entire history but people can't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they can't disassociate that from their current which is decidedly not the best so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you familiar are there are there current issues with their um what they're producing i haven't heard uh much bad stuff about their
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): random random rumblings um i think i gotta give them i'm gonna give them a c personally because you know you got to take their legacy into account uh at some point uh jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think they're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): overhyped okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): completely overhyped
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): interesting
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): colt when sure when samuel was alive
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): awesome i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean like long after that too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): colt
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): became a union shop and then about every 20 years their quality control just took a fucking shit I have a friend with a colt from the late 70s and it looks like a fucking beaver went at the insides of it it's some of the worst fucking machining I have ever goddamn seen on the inside of a 1911 slide it's fucking horrible and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that seemed like that happened in the late 70s the late 90s like every 20 years colt just took a fucking shit then they told the civilian market to go fuck themselves because they got fat
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and happy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on government contrast i do recall that it didn't give a fuck they haven't innovated in what 40 fucking years they made three fucking guns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking single action of 1911 and a fucking ar then they tried to come out with that dumbass double eagle bullshit or whatever the fuck it was and that was just fucking retarded um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is completely grossly overhyped they didn't make that good of ars and they fucking touted it like they were the second coming of christ and uh no they can get fucked
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like it dave
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so you started this thing off and said what you get today not the history
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah this whole thing you can take that into account
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i i was taking it into account but it's mandatory by any means
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no but i'm gonna play by the rules there you said that not in the history so cults history is their history there's a lot of great there's a lot of faults but today what you get i think is severely overhyped overpriced feature sets you're getting what nothing i mean you can get a 19 of the rail you can 19 of an optic can you get a 19 of the rail and an optic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you can get ar their ars are fine it's like a glock of an ar it's just fine There's nothing wrong with it, but you pay for it. Yeah, I think the revolvers are pretty badass. Those have come back.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they are.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Again, I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't know. I think they're pretty overhyped. I'm going to say these are a solid A. Okay,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and if I got to hear one more boomer talk about that fucking pony on the side, I'm going to fucking eat my own gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Don't let that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stop you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So, you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know, I used to hear a lot about Colt.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i don't hear a whole lot of cult fanboys i don't think within the last five or ten years
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because they're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): all dying
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): off exactly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so i mean there there was a hype for a while and but they also made
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good guns for a period of time i i would have been b-ish territory i think maybe c c for cult we'll give him c for cult
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like it c which is going to average us out to a b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all right well here we go daniel defense
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see what have i used so far i've used an a an s a d a c but i am allowed i also think s i think they're way overrated um i think that they're crazy expensive and i'm not saying like daniel defense has never done anything good i just think that they are very overrated as a gun brand um savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s is fine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wow
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dave um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's an s man there's all there is to it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not even funny
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this is so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are they do they work yeah but they're they're it's overhyped as shit.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): This is so unexpected. I cannot wait for the social post on this one.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Paul.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll say, I'll jump in to say yes. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think that's our first
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): unanimous bang rank.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There we go, buddy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No surprise. Boom. boom
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hilarious oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): unexpected i thought i was gonna have to fight for the s on that one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): marty daniel is a cunt
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do not know him uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i've heard no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): personally either but i've heard enough stories i'm gonna make a decision
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): heard good stories and bad so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh fn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all the things i don't care about fn is one of the things that i don't care about the most
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me see what i've picked here i mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what i'm picking the same one on this i'm just giving this one an a paul what do you think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i will give it an a also
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i just yeah and i i gotta go to jeremy now because i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one of the people
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm stuck at d
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay because
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i only have uh f left
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay i just
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't i just don't hear anybody talking about them other than the scar
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i i only hear
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): other than
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the scar nobody talks about fn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do it's one of the reasons i hate them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): scar
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no fn aren't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you don't you carry an fn often
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have an fn 509 ls edge but i don't like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not like oh it's i like the ergonomics i like the gun i think it's fine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i i i have a scar 16s but like yeah the scar 17 is that gun specifically is overhyped but you don't really hear anything about fn and a lot of fn stuff from way back in the day was pretty fucking cool um but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the new stuff is uh very much decidedly not that um but again i just don't hear many people talking about them so i don't think it's like overhyped because nobody talks about it savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm kind of in the same boat d i don't i don't see a whole lot of people talking about that things
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): stay off of reddit man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): literally avoid reddit as much as possible
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah same literally
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): banned from reddit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've been been multiple times
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): same
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i had an account on reddit for 18 years and they banned it because i posted in our own subreddit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): got banned from reddit i got banned from reddit for saying faggot in a private message
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think we've all been banned from reddit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's a it's a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's one of the worst places on the internet and it's crazy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): vacuum chamber for people Who just have a very low threshold for adversity.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which is the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): craziest thing because,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah. We have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a word for those people.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I have a lot of them.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dave.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah, offensive weird ones. I think anymore they've become really overpriced. I don't give a shit about the Scar. It's just a gun that's there. Their handguns, they're fine.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't feel like when he talks about like they used to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): used to be super hyped up yeah like everybody else says with the scars but even
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): handguns though they're slow moving also overpriced so just said
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't know let's go uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): go with a c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right that's going to average us out to a c so fn drops into that new bracket and finally last but not least springfield armory and this one i don't even know where this one's going to go i'm going to start off with uh savage on this one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes wow
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay that was quick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know it's like doesn't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): deserve any of the hype
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of my favorite guns is uh is a springfield armory well it's hs product but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's this thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the echelon is a fantastic amazing awesome gun uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you said it's an hs product
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): paul where do you stand on springfield armory
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): b
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see dave
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see this room really torn like hs product no i think they're absolutely worth everything they put out between the hellion i'm sorry the vhs2
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): echelon i've run the xts for years they're great but you come to what springfield actually does oh look they got an air market like everybody else okay they had the m1as okay they're fine they're 1911s like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fine but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): people still hold them on a fucking pedestal i think is a little ridiculous
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): overhyped we'll say they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): b b
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all right jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have to go f but that's only because i don't think anybody hypes up springfield especially after the fucking political shit like eight years ago
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): with rock river arms
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no nobody
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking talks about springfield
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ever i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): still hear him i hear people all the time but they don't talk about that as much anymore
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hear about that i don't hear anybody
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ask about um it's you know if you look at like their major fucking Again, most of them are H.S. product, so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just importing them, though they were smart enough from
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): business standpoint to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): their 1911s are solid. They have a wide swath of acceptable, you know, have from you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they have a way better variety of 1911s than colt ever did um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): at
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): least in the last 20 years um they they again it's a plain jane ar but they do more with them than colt does they they may they still make the m1a you can bitch about the m1a not being a true m14 or whatever the fuck but they were the only ones really keeping that shit alive in the mainstream for a long time um yeah there's a couple of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just but i don't see anybody like hyping them up all i see is people shitting on the grip zone thing
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): still to this day the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): national line comes out people are like where's the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): grip
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): zone how
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it it's deserved
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like i just don't see anybody like hyping it up like people go i want a good i want to you know a good american made 1911 for a decent price and you go get a springfield um because the only ones that are cheaper than that that are worth a shit are all imports
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um i mean don't get me wrong some of those imports ain't bad but you know the fit and finish on them is never great the sd yeses the fucking uh gursons the fucking uh uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): listen filipino and fucking turkish ones
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know slave labor is hard to beat um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it comes to price but uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think they're okay they're fine like they're fine like they're they're fine and i don't really hear anybody like hype them up over anything else.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I rounded it out with a B as well, which moved our app. Average for the hosts to a B. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I said, I can't wait to see this, how this one does on social because it's, it's going to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be great. All right. So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to end our live voting here and read the results. So hosts for Daniel Defense, S, most overrated gun brand, live viewers, A, six hour hosts, A, live viewers, B, H and K, hosts and live viewers, B, Springfield Armory. Hosts, B. Live viewers, C. Colt, both hosts and live viewers, B. And then FN, we matched with Cs. And Glock, we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): disagreed the most. Hosts gave it a D. Live viewers gave it a B. So, if you're listening to this after the fact, you can just go to weelikeshooting.com slash dashboard, click on BangRank, and go vote for the next seven days until the next show, basically. And, uh, yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): They're not playing the same game, though, because we're only trying to pick one yeah i mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but they i mean they can play it however
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they want i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i guess they can i think it's more fun that way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no and it's fine and i did a pretty good job tonight i i think i picked two s's and two a's but i picked every letter grade except for f just because i think they were all kind of over overrated a bit now i gotta say this bang rank has been killing on social media like it's generated in the last month about a million a million views
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): because it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): an entire game designed around it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): starts
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good arguments man actual dialogue
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): honestly like thousands of comments like a million views across all the social platforms it's it's it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's it's a lot of fun but uh that'll do it for this episode of bang rank
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that we gave it a pretty good rating and you know we agreed with the viewers on everything but Glock. That's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wild.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They really felt that Glock was a B, like really overrated. So, very, very interesting. Alright, that's going to do it for BangRank tonight.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Alright, now let's see, where do we stand here? Just checking time and everything. Midwest Industries, we talked a little bit about them already when we were talking about what was on these new Gen 2 rifles and I really do think that the midwest industries stock on the foxtrot mike uh gen 2 ranch rifles are awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i agree
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like i've got a good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): aesthetic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i've got a few of those stocks so which midwest industry stock do you put on those
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): talking to me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to you paul
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): basically have an 870 version of the of the rifle stock um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): our our uh our stuff's designed to take any 870 stock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's yeah that's the one i remember the exact model off the top of my head
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i have one of those in the bin downstairs if so i might put it on one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of the ranch rifles because it looks really good i don't think i had seen those on there before is this the first time that you put them on there or you always have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we just we had them for a while and then one day i came to work and i'm like why aren't those on the store and they're like i don't know and i'm like put them on the store we had them for like months
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh yeah we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bought a decent quantity of them just so we could kind of um we like the stock and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they're they're fantastic big fan of those uh and if you're looking for something like that or you know for anything if you're looking to put stuff on your hnk mp5 they've got that stuff you're looking for uh lever actions ranch rifles they've got the stuff midwest industries.com uh sorry midwest industries inc.com coupon code wls is life will save you some money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one r is going to bring going ballistic to life now and uh savage go ahead
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): giving me a lot of credit uh as far as that's concerned but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): honestly the crazy thing is is i give you zero credit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just kidding uh first story on the docket tonight uh i love the title here drugs guns and sticky buns Louisiana Bakery allegedly hub of criminal enterprise that's uh that's interesting you know my wife and I have been watching this great TV show uh called Monsters of God uh it's on HBO it's about the illegal slash legal reptile trade
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind of blew up between like the 50s and just recently. And this kind of mirrors that same notes on that TV show. So this late Ernie Navarre was known as the Donut King of Livingston Parish, Louisiana. But police say his son, Jules, is more of a drug kingpin than fried donut royalty, which is really crazy. So the popular shop known for its king cakes,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): donuts, and other baked goods is a community staple. So it came as a shock when it was raided last week. And the son, Jules, ended up being behind bars on a variety of charges. The sheriff deputies alongside the state authorities discovered large amounts of nine types of drugs, 52 firearms,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): beginner
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): numbers, one which was allegedly stolen from a sheriff's office. OK, now it's not so much amateur. And $3,550 after obtaining a search warrant for the property. uh upon executing the search warrant agents uncovered a distribution hub for various narcotics including cocaine mdma and adderall oh man i could be in trouble um yum yeah right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can you put all that on a donut because then i'm in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): totally totally totally uh so most of uh navarro's charges 52 of the 62 are for possessing a firearm in presence of a controlled danger of substance, though I don't know that that would necessarily hold up in front of the Supreme Court, but he is also charged with possessing a stolen firearm and nine counts of possession with intent to distribute a variety of drugs, from cocaine to ecstasy and antibiotic steroids. Those charges would probably stick.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The firearms seized from the shop are an odd assortment of bolt-action rifles, pump-action shotguns, one AR-style rifle, and what appears to be a japanese type 11 machine gun which style points right there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): great
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i i'm kind of liking this guy there are fewer than 30 000 of those particular firearms produced most of them were damaged or destroyed in world war ii so they're pretty rare and worth a pretty penny uh a type 2 that recently went out for auction in 2017 was expected to sell for at least 8500 as much as 13 000 even though the auction house couldn't guarantee it was still functional so this is uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is an interesting guy you might might have been bad but you can't say he was boring jesus christ
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very very interesting and honestly uh pastry shop great front for arms dealing and drug dealing free my pookie he didn't do nothing exactly let him cook
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean jeremy weren't you talking about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): opening
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a pastry shop
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): food
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no i said i was gonna cream pie your mom oh yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's much different
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): good luck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if he's dead um anyway so uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): even
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): better
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wait when did your mom die no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm kidding
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i was like you were just at her house i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): want him to sound worse than he actually is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): impossible i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you can stop and become offended, or you can keep going and become the offender.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100%.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure Jeremy is considered an offender in many ways. So, Giverford's board member discovered shocking fact about the politics of gun control. So, in a new piece, the Atlantic Horowitz claims that researchers have uncovered what she calls the most cynical move yet, quote-unquote, by pro-second amendment groups in the first study of its kind. Authors analyzed 25 years of data linking campaign finance records to every fatal k-12 shooting from 2000 to 2024
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they then compared campaign contributions between the districts that did and did not have a school shooting after school shootings where children died program contributions to candidates in competitive congressional districts increased on average by more than 30 percent i wonder why that would happen i can't imagine why that would happen and then uh the shooting when the shooting occurred within two months of an election contribution surged by 2820 again i can't imagine why that would
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): possibly happen data shows that the gun lobby saves its political firepower for the moments when public grief is greatest and lawmakers are under the most pressure to act Eric A. Baldwin, one of the authors, told this author, and it's not like the anti-gun, anti-rights lobby is spending 10 times as much in every single fucking state
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): unlimited money from billionaires. I'm that was obviously taken into consideration.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): They're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just mad because Vance and, you know, like the anti-fraud group within the U.S. government has taken away all. Like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was thinking about this the other day.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fact that there's not a single rap song in like the top 20 for like the first time in 50 years or some shit. How bonkers is that? Nike's stock has absolutely crashed.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hate to be like correlation and causation and all that, but, you know, shutting down a lot of the fraud and EBT fraud and all this other stuff. And now like that part of our culture is kind of non-existent
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a very,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a thing that I've noticed.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And don't, don't go noticing Sean.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. I noticed the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): noticers.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): noticed a little bit, but Paul, like how many, how many of these anti-gun groups, how much, how many millions and tens of millions has Soros poured into these groups? And now they're mad because we're upping our political, uh, donations.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): crazy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just, yeah, I don't even, I don't even get it. And they're saying it's up to 2,820% in your elections. Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I wonder why. And that's mostly from, you know, small, small contributions. I would be willing to bet because people are tired of all the anti-gun bullshit. So let me see. The author goes on to say that the standards, the Stanford researchers did not find that increased spending by either side after fatal school shooting measurably affected which party actually won a competitive House election. And districts that the study looked at represented only a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): subset of the gun lobby's overall election spending. Nevertheless, the study shows that how program PACs work to undermine anti-gun feelings in communities suffering from the trauma of children being killed in schools. You know, this is – I mean it's basically just the anti-gunners complaining that they can't have their way. It's really what it comes to be, comes out to be. you can't think of it any other way than that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's exactly it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's cry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): louder bitches yep
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly exactly the more they cry their tears are literally my favorite thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so this one's next one's really interesting and it's it's kind of illustrates this shit this really slow creeping kind of gun control that can happen in really circuitous ways. So this story here, Bearing Arms, developer sues Nerjuzzi gun range in potential land grab. So apparently there is this land developer who is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): interested in buying a parcel next to a gun range. And that That land developer decided to sue the gun range, and what they said was really interesting. The complaint came out when Sternberg's company, that's the guy who's suing, entered into a contract with the owner of a property adjoining Iron Horse, which is the Waddell property, that's the gun range. So in What's the Nature Lawsuit, the filing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): alleges that Iron Horse is engaging in solid waste disposal and soil stockpiling activities is causing harm to the environment on the adjoining property and likely also causing harm to the Waddell property and that the unlawful actions are likely continuing to cause harm to the adjoining property, to the Waddell property and to the plaintiff so this is likely most likely
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like these are literally like there's no evidence behind this so it says what are these allegations predicated on seven times the complaint uh said potentially contaminated that's repeated often there might be potentially contaminated soil there might be potentially contaminated soil from on the named sources uh from their own admission the potentially contaminated soil has not even been tested
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so they're just saying this shit could potentially be happening we don't know but we're going to sue them because it could potentially be happening so that they can get possession of the property because apparently they tried to buy the the actual gun range and it wasn't they weren't selling so they're just trying to make all these allegations without any fucking evidence to push them out it's fucking ridiculous
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Paul
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have you seen any of this stuff out where you're at
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but I mean my uh the The I grew up using for years was shut down, something similar, and some of the people in the area just started saying that there was – they started doing lead
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): testing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in the soil,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then they eventually got it shut down. I was using that range for 20
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): years.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): You're like, yeah, stupid. That's where the bullets go.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Right. Well, also, there is levels of lead in soil everywhere. where
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you have to be able
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to show that the lead in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the soil
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in a particular area is in higher concentrations than the rest of the surrounding area
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): almost like they dig it out of the soil
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i wonder they don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): let lead is mined from the ground
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right yeah yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we literally
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): had local range to us that basically got shut down same kind of thing you had a guy that bought the property above them and beyond these railroad tracks because our main berm was like the railroad tracks and he wanted to buy the range the range said no he got pissy then went to the city and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): actually know people who previously lived up on the property where this guy had bought his stuff and had local news out there showing you all these rounds they dug up from a homemade berm you know so 14 50 year old rounds they're like this is what the range is depositing in here and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a guy know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he was like dude some of those rounds i shot when i was a kid he goes that's it's bullshit and now now the outdoor range is shut down the indoor range still goes on but that whole area has now been cleared all out and leveled and going for new home home uh subdivision
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck you one of the ranges that i got willing to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bet they didn't even clean up the area they just flattened
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): out so they probably don't give a hundred percent there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was blood in there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah absolutely uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one of the ranges that i go to uh the one that's closer is like 20 22 minutes away not bad at all just kind of out east just a little bit and uh when that range was put in there was you know a few houses around it's in a residential but rural area so like not right next door to each other but anyway the range was put it put in and as things have grown around it now the neighbors start to complain about the shooting range when i was on the board of directors that was pretty common
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing is people would buy buy a house uh and then suddenly you know they have a problem with the range and so they're bitching about everything with the range and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thankfully
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i wasn't the comms director because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wouldn't have been able to be polite um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i didn't really have to deal with that we just had to talk about it ad nauseum in every board meeting and i do to this day 100 believe in the next five to ten years that range will be shut down completely
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): part
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of where you live i think that makes it very difficult because there's a lot of advocates for that where we wouldn't we wouldn't see what that's you know has something to do with what state you're into right like yeah i wouldn't see that here and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know the crazy thing is paul is like uh in colorado springs like we're still pretty much the wild west out here like you know people believe in faith and family and and guns for the most part obviously you know we get some we get some overflow from the other places but besides denver fort collins boulder
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we're a red state but those are the ones that that have made this a horrible state and our stupid loser ass governor uh has just made this an awful place to live and yeah it's pretty crazy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): there's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the word
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): homie
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was just a court case where a guy had a range and somebody moved in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then tried to get him to get him shut down and the court decided with the range owner because they were like he was there first you decided to go build next to a guy with a fucking semi-public range like get fucked you went there and then you don't get to bitch about it it'd be like somebody fucking moving in next to a fucking dairy farm and complaining about the smell and then but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they will
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they absolutely will
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): around here they get told to fuck off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): should be the the default response
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like you don't get to do that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): there are some states that have a what's called coming to the nuisance law
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you went to the nuisance you don't get to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bitch
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about the nuisance when you went there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it pre-existed you and it was perfectly fine and legal now you're gonna show up and say we don't like it well you shouldn't have lived here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you should have should have lived somewhere else i don't know what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to tell you my
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my old neighbors told me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i bought my house in litchfield um where you guys stayed a bunch yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they said every time we saw somebody over there with a realtor um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): checking
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the house out they would let all their dogs go because they had like six they
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had like six hound
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): dogs
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean i'm talking black
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): catans walkers coon you know a bunch of coon hounds and they're like we purposely if we saw realtors like scoping the house on when it went up for sale Let all our dogs go in the back yard just
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to fucking
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): make a bunch of noise. So like, this is what you're moving in next to. They were like, and then you showed up, but it worked out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nice.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's pretty great, man.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Speaking of public nuisances.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hold on. That's just a reminder that you should go buy some night sights right now over at Night Vision. N-I-G-H-T-F-I-S-I-O-N. Coupon code WLSLIFE. We've talked about it a lot, but this is just a reminder.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sorry, Savage. When the air horn goes off, I have no choice.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you literally just fucking hit a button in the air sorry
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what were you saying i couldn't hear you over there horn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): speaking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of public nuisances uh no el sayed this guy who's michigan's brand new democratic senate nominee has resurfaced with a video problem and it's a new or it's the kind that gun owners heading into the November election should file away. Abdul El-Sayed, the progressive former public health official who nearly won Michigan's Democratic Senate primary this month over Representative Haley Stevens, is on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): tape in a clip he later hid. Now, remember, this guy deleted a bunch of videos for,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know, crazy reasons.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that is that the deleting sound you found there sean yes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): great uh so what he actually said was uh he was floating the idea that we should trade the second amendment for a constitutional right to health care
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'll
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tell
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you what yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): abdul el sayed uh we're gonna keep the second amendment because we're going to need it for the muslim invasion that's going on in this in this country
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he's a dirty communist so who gives a shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): scary thing is he pushes that shit out there there's a lot of young new voters that will absolutely go for that shit they'll see they'll hear us bitching about health care costs and they'll absolutely bite on this shit that's what's fucking scary about this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's true and yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): apparently this guy deleted at least a hundred videos and not from like a long time ago either like from somewhat recently
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): CNN's K-File investigation for the more than a hundred videos on El Saeed's YouTube channel that appear to have been made private before he launched this campaign. Among the ones polled are the Second Amendment healthcare clip a video waving off GOP concerns about southern border security and per the hill clips urging people to rethink how they celebrate the fourth of july
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because why would we want to fucking do that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in order in order to repeal the second amendment it's a constitutional process so first there has to be a proposal which is two-thirds of both the house of representatives and the senate must vote to propose the repeal or two-thirds of state legislatures 34 states must call for a national constitutional convention to propose it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): once
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the proposal would pass then it would need to be ratified and then three fourths of the states or at least 38 states would need to vote to approve and ratify the new amendment so i don't know if you've like voting maps between red and blue but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): at least at this point in in time not a chance
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that happening probably
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not in
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my lifetime
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i don't think there's ever going to be an amendment in our lifetimes maybe several lifetimes at this point it's just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's just too not only is it too difficult there's too much that can be lost and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't need to we don't need to risk that shit anymore like we made a big fucking mistake already when we did try to prohibit alcohol let's not do anymore this prohibition is bullshit alright let's not fuck that up right we made that mistake once already fuck
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah although looking at the map man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is getting a little bit scary we really need to like I know that a bunch
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of dudes out
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there like are like I don't vote because it doesn't make a difference fucking makes a difference
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it does and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like it doesn't need to just be you voting you need to get every single person you know care about have influence over to also vote
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): again like you said it's not about the likelihood of this happening it's about a guy like this can say this shit and it gets people to follow him and then vote for his ass
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right like mom donnie
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in new york and then he doesn't actually
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): follow through on
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anything
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because exactly you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know it's all pie in the sky promises that don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): actually matter it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like next level leftist pandering you know right painters
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does i'll put
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your guns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): rid of the way go health
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): care Don't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): forget about all those two. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I mean,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well, yeah. Speaking of votes and getting things voted through today,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Democrat Governor
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Gavin Newsom signed into law what has been colloquially known as the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Now, this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with 2A rights, but it's 1A and I think it's really important to bring up to show how fucking corrupt officials will be able to – will willingly throw all of your rights under the bus in order to preserve
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): their power. Now, the thing here is that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): every
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): single – now, Nick Shirley went out there and he confronted every single politician who was voting for this. There was the pedo wiener guy that was there. There was the –
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was it? The wife of the attorney general who authored the bill and every single one of them says, oh, no, it doesn't really do that. oh we don't really understand i don't know what i'm voting on and this is like that fucking meme you know no civil discourse can happen with the left because they pretend not to know what the fuck you're talking about right thus making discourse impossible but every single you know politician he talked to on the other side knew exactly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what the bill would do knew exactly how is going to affect people and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know all it's just the most absurdist bullshit that these uh california representatives and senators can get away with this bullshit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well and you know here's the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing like he's he is exposing fraud on a on a scale that we've like never seen like it's a dream
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to see what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's done
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's never
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): been done before it's it's amazing and we need more of this you know like i was if we didn't have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): listen i know this will never happen if we didn't have all the fraud all the simoleum fraud the korean fraud the you know just like all these different things that we're discovering that are just bleeding our government dry all the illegal immigration uh if we didn't have all of these things just completely draining the coffers raising taxes and just adding to our deficit,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we would actually have a little bit of room for things like, uh, you know, uh, global healthcare. Maybe we would have something like that. No, I'm not saying it'll happen. I'm not even saying it's a good idea. I'm just saying that all these leftists that are pushing, you know, to stop ice from doing this, to stop Nick Shirley from exposing the fraud, you know, they're the ones that crow the loudest about things like universal health care but then they support everything that takes away from the possibility of that ever happening and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all we have all
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): social programs are a net negative for society
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agreed i agreed but i'm saying if
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we could just convince those people that you know maybe there would be more money for things like that if we got rid of all the fraud and the illegal
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): immigration the fraud
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is part of the plan
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now they're trying to outlaw exposing the fraud like you see what happens you see what's happening
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): every
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): single person
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): everybody every single person related to passing that bill belongs in prison for fucking life i don't give a fuck anymore
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): paul
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have you seriously have you seen any of the nick shirley stuff
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but i'm going to i'm going to check that out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very interesting like i don't watch a lot of it but i i try to keep up with what he's exposing those
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weeks yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he was
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): in columbus not that long ago
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he good
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i think so or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): maybe it was somebody's here
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): or maybe it was somebody like doing what he did somebody was in columbus he has a bunch of somalis in columbus and they're fucking ripping there was like one building that there was like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 30 40 fucking medicare providers uh in like one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one address yeah yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): one address and it was and they were all fucking yeah it was exactly what you think it was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude i am
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): telling you that the the when i had to move hq almost exactly a year ago the people who bought the building there were a bunch of koreans and they were building they were renovating the downstairs to a uh adult daycare
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just had to get my hair cut
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): last last
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thursday and this it's been a year they had finished the the the downstairs before i ever left and uh so after my haircut i just happened to walk next door to our old office and i was just peeking through the windows not a single person
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): entire
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): building
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a car in the parking lot thursday at 10 a.m
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is 100 a korean adult daycare scam Like Nick Shirley's been exposing and, and others. It's, it's the craziest thing, man. They just, they basically claim that they have, you know, 300, uh, clients and they bill Medicare for everything under the sun. So they're bringing in millions and millions of dollars. And apparently they own a couple other Korean daycares up North in Denver. And, uh, yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on occasion, I'll see
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): link or a hint. A tip needs to be left somewhere.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no i heard i literally the the day that i realized when nick shirley started exposing a lot of this stuff i was like oh yeah let me send a tip
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know which sucks as somebody whose family owns a company that gets paid by medicare right like and we actually have clients and services and homes and and the fact that we get audited
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): much like one of my jobs when i work from when i was like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): well one of my i still technically work there um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): see you're running
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking health care scam too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i mean i still do stuff i just do a lot of projects that i can do on the computer like building projects and stuff but um i used to be the um life safety guy um and that was an inspection every year you know did you have a life safety inspection and they would come in and they would check like the door gaps to make sure that the door gaps themselves were no bigger than a sixteenth of an inch because that's a fire hazard. The fire can spread faster if the door gap's too wide. Then all the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sprinklers were up to date and all the fire extinguisher tags were up to date and all that stuff. They were there every fucking year. Then the state and feds would audit us every couple of years. I want to know how the fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the actual fuck these people aren't getting audited by state and federal yeah all the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): time auditors
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like how how has this been going on for decades
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ethnicity differences yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i just don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): even know you're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): white they're gonna audit you no i was not the computer guy i was uh i was i was i was i was the trash man in high school we had uh i'm not even joking we we we had our own dumpster instead of paying for trash pickup because it was too much trash we because we had to pick up trash three days a week because there's so many like adult briefs and stuff um and medical equipment fucking gross
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so three days at my as soon as i could well shit before i could drive when my older brother could drive and when my dad was still alive he'd drive us around and we had to throw the trash in in like a big steak body truck three days a week um that was one of my jobs in high school three days a week monday wednesday friday pick up the garbage and then drive it all to the dumpster at the main office and load the dumpster up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then when i got out of the marines
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i went to school and got certified as a welder and i well before then i was a maintenance guy and then i got certified in welding and i became the wheelchair repair guy and then i became the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): life
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): safety guy and i still fixed wheelchairs and then i became the director of transportation when we got our own day program and had buses and i had to keep those in working order and i was their boss and shit like that but the fact that we get the fact that we we get audited so much it's mind-boggling to me that these people do this for so long like that which means somebody's getting a fucking kickback on the inside
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100 yeah like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): somebody somewhere is getting their fucking palm grease that apparently we just can't afford to do because we actually take care of people right like how like and again this is ohio so like i know how it works in ohio i don't know about other states but i mean the fucking state was out here i think every three years at maximum
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no more than three years and then the feds were out here i don't know how long i never had to deal with the feds because it wasn't life safety but life safety was every year dude they'd fucking nail you if a closet didn't close correctly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think it's the big difference is you know a town or a township of 4 000 compared
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): in a fucking we have houses all over the county oh yeah that's right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so it's not
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just in valley city i mean we had we had 12 group homes with eight clients each we had 90 96 beds from the state and and and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking mind-boggling to me how so which yeah which means somebody's getting their fucking palms greased on the back end because why the fuck aren't they being audited
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): paul's showing that he just subscribed to nick shirley
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sweet yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's uh He's exposing a lot of fraud.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on YouTube as much as I'd like to be, so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): definitely check this out.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): won't be on YouTube much longer. We are up to 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 6,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 7 strikes.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, we're up to 470 videos deleted and removed.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, my God.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How is that possible?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What's the mechanism?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How does that happen?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): even though when we put up the content, our show, years and years and years ago, and it was fine and did not violate community guidelines, now the fact that we say things like fm-products.com and that you can get AR-15s and you can get the new Gen 2 Ranch Rifles for $1,049 using coupon code WLS's life sale item for an extra discount. you know like saying that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): even
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): though it was fine then is not fine now so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they apply today's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): community guidelines to videos that we put online 10 years ago such
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bullshit so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we're up to almost 500 removed the channel has two strikes i just finished running a uh a download for the remaining 508 videos and krista this week is going through and deleting every single other video that's out there except for the ones since i've implemented uh the two new things that i did so now what we have to do paul is after the show chrysta will download the video and she will submit
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it to a process that i wrote and created that process basically pulls youtube's community guidelines for the for that day and transcribes the entire episode and then takes out anything that's violative of community guidelines on YouTube and just clips that section of the video out and then puts it all back together and you noticed when I was showing prices when I was showing your website on the screen that all the prices were blurred out so that's another thing that I wrote that did that and since I did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that every video has been approved for monetization and none of the new videos have been taken down so by publishing a completely neutered thing on and this is our like fourth YouTube channel the rest have all been deleted for violations and this one will be too one more strike and it gets deleted so at least I saved the videos that I could but yeah it's YouTube is a bunch of communists
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's why we use Rumble and I'm actually building my own streaming platform that'll probably launch right around the beginning of September for all Firearms Radio Network shows just to avoid this nonsense
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's going to be so kick ass
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it it's gonna be really cool way better than what we have now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah it'll be good and like rumble's pretty good but the ads are like i see people talking about the ads in the chat every week and so i went and watched a few live streams to see and the ads are just like unbearable they're they're awful you can't skip them at any point like they're just it's bad so then they have to listen to you know our ads which we carefully curate we only work with companies that we like and then they've got to you know hear about vaginal
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): biomes and probiotics and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shit so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's as bad as the ones rss put in my show
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in the audio version yes
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's uh nice yeah it's a crazy thing uh thank you savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep i think that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was the last story jeremy let's hit some reviews
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage leave so you just bail out
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): every no but every week after he finishes his segment his camera breaks i don't know oh okay he did drop out
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): marco slav says love the podcast i was considering dating a stripper without my life knowing about it i looked at a sticker on my toolbox with a jeremy quote it's because you're stupid and make bad decisions i ignored his wisdom and proceeded with my plan bad decision i should have listened to my mentor jeremy this podcast has wisdom for everyone soak it up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if he would have just paid attention to the sticker he wouldn't be paying alimony right now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have chlamydia
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a pill that goes away
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you would know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): trent
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): says five i love you say it back my favorite podcast to listen to while i'm work or at the reloading bench now if you could just lose the bald-headed fuck it would be great he asked like the podcast even more now that the jew is gone
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wow
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): trent trent brought the hand dude
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean let him let him cook
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh steven with a P.H. Stephen.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Stephen.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Reminds me of that dog.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Stephen.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Stephen. To start a great show, guys. I was really happy when the second show started lasting longer. That's what she said. I gotta say, Jeremy's mustache makes him look like he belongs in Tombstone as Sam Elliott's illegitimate son. Why does Savage forget how to read some words during Going Ballistic? Should rename the segment Going Illiterate.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sean keep what you're keep doing what you're doing nick keep being the troll of the group i really appreciate your humor anyway stay frosty except jeremy no one can tame that flame you call me a faggot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's saying that you're fiery
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i thought he's calling me a flamer
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe take
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it how you want jerry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i don't take i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't give
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): jesus
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): paul
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): because i'm stronger than you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): paul
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you get to pick the winner tonight which one which one wins
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): boy they're all winners to me you know what i mean um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you got the guy who dated a stripper and got a divorce you got the guy who hates savage and aaron and you've got the guy that called jeremy a flamer
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i'll take the last one all right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stefan
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): with a ph
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he doesn't like it because i shit on cold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you are the winner email automated we like shooting.com and crystal will get you validated verified and your prize out for the rest of you uh for the boomers we like shooting.com slash dashboard click on uh sorry click on reviews and you can submit it there but all the zoomers, millennials, whatever it is, uh, you can just text your name and your review to seven, four, three, 500 two, one, seven, one. And, uh, we will get that out there. So Paul, uh, what other cool stuff is coming out soon? Like, Holy crap. You guys have
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): had a pretty, uh, crazy launch pace.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do, we do have something pretty cool coming out. Um, we do the, you know, we do the foldy boy lower and I know we were, we were talking earlier about polymer uh lowers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for pcc but if you were to look at the folding mechanism on the um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the lower it was always designed to be an engineer to be made out of polymer
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the failure mode on an ar is where the buffer tube would thread in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so if you look at the design of that lower you have a thick cross section where the knuckle is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so it's designed to be robust and so we're we've been working on a polymer lower our our foldy boy is about 400 bucks when it's not on sale
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an rmb and we've been working on a polymer version which would get it to the street price of about 299 when it's not on sale and my thinking was if you had a polymer lower with a folding adapt you know a patented folding adapter and a we call mitigation buffer that you could drop a super safety in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a inner glist pressed upper you'd be at $7.99.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thinking that's pretty compelling. It
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so that's kind of, it's been my love letter to consumers. I've been working on it for two years. We've been squirreling away money for it. Molds are expensive. This is a really expensive mold as it's hyper complex. We've got that. We're going to be hopefully bringing that to market the next
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the near future we're really proud about that um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we'll
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): still offer you know people there's a there's a market for bill it lowers people are going to want it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but there's nothing there's nothing that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): would keep that would interfere with that gun functioning and performing reliably and lasting a lifetime where it made out of you know glass filled nylon or carbon fiber you know we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): working with a company called rochester uh nordon out of rochester
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they uh they're kind of really big on cutting edge materials
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they've gotten really good at making uh carbon fiber polymers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are that are stronger than glass filled nylon uh and lighter
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so we're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind of exploring a partnership on that and and doing hopefully gonna bring that to market something that's stronger than you know glass filled nylon is good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so we're excited about that um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stuff
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): takes time it's slow slow burn man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of this stuff is it just takes time and capital and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're we're selling old equipment getting new equipment and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a whole thing too it's just a very uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cumbersome slow process you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're doing it well man like i know that it's a lot of balls to keep juggling in the air but at the same time to keep coming out with new cool interesting and affordable stuff is quite
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the accomplishment thanks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man we're we're proud we're proud of that that that 556 recall medical Requel mitigation buffer will be popular because it's probably going to be cheaper than an H3 buffer, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when's that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): coming out? When's it coming out? Yeah. I'll send you one. I'll send you one, Dave. Oh, fuck. That's awesome. Yeah. I already asked Shawn for your contact. He did, yeah. Sweet. Yeah, so, no, I like what you guys are doing, so you've to keep it in the family.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Hell yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's I say
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): about dating.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Exactly. Of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): course you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Never going
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to beat the allegations. Nope.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No, you're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That's awesome, Paul. Again, fm-products.com. You can go find all the stuff we've been talking about always. You can just go to weelikeshooting.com slash dashboard, click on sponsors, and get links, coupon codes, all that stuff. Thank you, Paul, for joining us. When you sent that email the other day, I was like, oh, I want to talk about this stuff because I found it very, very awesome.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's always an honor being on here with you guys. is uh great to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): great to spend time with you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thanks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dave
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you got anything before we go
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gotta make that aloft
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): advice or what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude that thing is so stupid cool but no it's not gonna happen
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): neat though
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): promote
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): your podcast
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah okay yeah you'll listen to me and my shenanigans of some gun related bullshit and a lot of pop culture and movie stuff it's live fire media show where we talk about silly things like the pulse rifle from aliens or my pulse rifle from aliens. Hunter loves when I talk about this damn thing. A lot of gun stuff, a lot of movie stuff, intertwined. Sometimes we talk about music and other dumb shit, but it's a massive lot of things, so come check it out, live fire media show.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hell yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Fire and Radio Network, YouTube, Rumble, all that shit. So yeah, check us out.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Hell yeah. Join Gun Owners of America, gunowners.org slash WLS. You can join and support the show if you'd like. over at agency 171.com suicide prevention line as always 988 you can call it or you can text it from your phone we need you here we need all the patriots fighting against woke 2.0 it's coming i promise uh they're just sitting back in the shadows waiting waiting for their time again and they will try to put all of us in jail for believing in freedom and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know the rights that we've had in this country for 250 years so 988 from your phone if you need it we need you here And that's going to do it for this episode of your favorite gun podcast. We like shooting. Always prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. We love you. We'll see you next time. And goodbye.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): podcast has been a production of the Firearms Radio Network. For more, visit firearmsradio.net.