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  • They compare several products that stood out at the show, including thermal red-dot style optics, Coast lights, a voice-activated headlamp, EAA's compact double-stack polymer 2011-style pistol, and Lone Star suppressors. Source at 00:21:13

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    so cool experiences i think the coolest thing that i saw or the thing that i was just like yeah that's pretty awesome was lone star silencers
  • A major segment ranks “most internet overhyped firearm feature,” with the hosts debating optics-ready slides, flat-face triggers, modular fire control units, ambidextrous controls, flared magwells, threaded barrels, and adjustable gas blocks. Source at 00:40:06

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    Holy shit. I have no idea what was going on there. All right. So for your listeners, you can scan the QR code on there or just go to we like shooting.com slash rank. And, uh, you can vote for these as well. So bang rank tonight is the most internet overhyped firearm feature. Rank each feature by how much the internet acts like it's mandatory versus how much it actually improves the gun for a normal shooter.
  • Later, the hosts discuss a real-world defensive shooting in Idaho, emphasizing that an armed civilian returned fire and helped stop the attacker, followed by broader news talk on gun laws, voting rights restoration, and remote firearm sales. Source at 01:56:00

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    where is the news going ballistic here we go everyone heard about the in and out uh thing that or the thing that happened at in and out with uh

Chapter guide

  1. 00:00:49 — Opening banter and episode setup
  2. 00:14:51 — GOALS convention recap
  3. 00:21:13 — Show-floor products that stood out
  4. 00:40:06 — Ranking the most overhyped gun features
  5. 01:56:00 — Defensive shooting in Idaho
  6. 02:04:35 — Gun law and rights news roundup

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man uh go over check out foxtrot mike foxtrot mike is our title sponsor on both shows and we really appreciate their support but you know here's the thing is they're not just out there supporting your favorite gun podcast they're out there supporting you guys and how did how do they do that you might ask well the way that they do that is by making guns that you can afford and really making sure that they're high quality making sure that they run good making sure that they are doing the right things for a gun that you may have to rely on for your

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): pretty awesome thing even detection range 300 to 500 didn't really matter to me a whole lot

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): far do i need to see so yeah i think i think it's pretty cool i was i was looking at these before then they had another one that was like mounts to your rifle but also mounts to your helmet in a monocular and you can broadcast what's being shown on your rifle in the monocular and like a picture in picture in the monocular as well.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't mess with that one a whole lot, but I think that is actually kind of cool. Nick, I don't remember. I don't know if you saw these before you had to leave.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Uh, no, no, I did not get to see these. I walked past a couple of times, but every time there were a bunch of people there, I was like, I'll come back later.

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Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thermal and i would like to see more

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't even know how to narrow it down to one you're lying

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Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna be

Nick (reference, not reviewed): honest i thought that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was concerned that maybe i am getting jaded or something and I Probably am. But not a whole lot got me real excited.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. But then I talked to other people

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who

Nick (reference, not reviewed): are newer or, you know, had not really been to this sort of thing before. Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they had similar reactions

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to

Nick (reference, not reviewed): me.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we aren't just jaded.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yes. I mean, we are, but that's not that's not all of it.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): It's not totally our fault. and yeah it wasn't that like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anything

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was bad it just there weren't like a whole lot of uh things that we hadn't seen before you know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i will say range day was interesting like normally we'll go shoot stuff that we've never shot before and like we're really excited about it and we're just like yeah fuck yeah this is awesome can't wait love it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): range

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): day was not like that this time there was really nothing that we

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): came away just like oh that was that was amazing there was like some cool experiences like shooting the truck mounted 50 like that was cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hit on this first shot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 500

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yards that that was awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so cool experiences i think the coolest thing that i saw or the thing that i was just like yeah that's pretty awesome was lone star silencers

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just had some

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cool

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cans pretty inexpensive and interesting design i just thought those were pretty nice

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): there were some cool definitely some cool suppressors there

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um at

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the actual show

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one

Nick (reference, not reviewed): of the things that i i was interested in were the flashlights from coast

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they had some some pistol lights that they were showing us that were kind of neat um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Nick (reference, not reviewed): were uh pretty reasonably priced

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Nick (reference, not reviewed): were like 120 something like that or in that range

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can like do a push and twist on the head

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it'll go from a um it moves the head in and out so that you can go from a flood to a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): spot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): which is which is pretty cool the um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): candela

Nick (reference, not reviewed): or whatever seemed pretty decent

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): even

Nick (reference, not reviewed): in the well-lit

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): show

Nick (reference, not reviewed): on the on the well-lit show floor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i was shining them on the light or on the wall which was like what 30 or so yards away

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and you can still clearly see where the the beam was

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they they seemed pretty cool the guy said that they depending on the model they'll either fit a tlr1 a an x300 or a uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think a tlr7 holster

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or

Nick (reference, not reviewed): something like that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that that seemed kind of cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah and then like i said they were they were fairly reasonably priced

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i totally agree actually um tony simon he's like yeah come see these lights and we were both like no

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't want to but we followed him because we love tony and uh when we got there they kind of wowed us

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they have a headlamp that's voice activated jeremy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay you'd

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): be like coast on or coast off or coast green or coast red and it'll like coast high coast low coast four just set the levels do everything and it worked really well i was like that's that's handy actually for for all life including like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doing

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): night shoots and stuff like that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna be honest i i was like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't want this at all it seems like a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a gimmick that i would never ever use

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then he started talking about you know if you're like a mechanic crawling around under a vehicle or something

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i was i was like okay yeah there have been a few times where i'm under the truck

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or

Nick (reference, not reviewed): under a car with my

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): flashlight

Nick (reference, not reviewed): in my mouth or a headlamp on

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i like need it to be brighter or dimmer or

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): need to turn it on or you know whatever and you've got your hands like up in an awkward spot and you don't want to let go because it was hard to get up there

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): like yeah okay i could see that being actually really handy in certain situations

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah but i mean they just had like a pretty big stable of products that was pretty cool and i'd never heard of them before

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and going back to the the pistol lights yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the switches

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are

Nick (reference, not reviewed): correct

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're not like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the stupid push in buttons they're the they're push down levers um and then the other thing that was cool about them Was the mounting system.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Nick (reference, not reviewed): instead of having keys like on a stream light or something,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): can adjust the rail section forward or backwards. The little male nubbin that goes into the female slot on the rail. You can adjust that forwards or backwards and it appeared to be not just like clamped in place, but it looked like the screw actually went in and retained it. i i think that's how it looked

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): like it had a slot or something that the screw went into and then the uh the actual male portion that goes into the female portion on the rail um had a thing that you could flip up and down to make it larger or thinner so it'll fit on picatinny or on some of the pistols that use different uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): different

Nick (reference, not reviewed): spec rails that are not picatinny

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that was cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thought they were really cool overall they were like yeah we had to work around like 200 patents

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seemed to work pretty well

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): vince

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): h said that headlamp is a closed system that only knows those commands so it doesn't listen to your conversations for google yeah it's it's got wake words

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was looking at those wake word uh chips the other day and they're actually very inexpensive and seem pretty easy to train

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): anyway

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah i think i think the lights are awesome that's a really good good catch

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): something else that you like too right

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh yeah eaa has a a double stack polymer framed not 2011

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's coming out that is officer sized and had a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was it 16 round capacity

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): MSRP is like 500 bucks or something

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's pretty neat if you are interested in carrying a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): compact 2011 and you don't want to spend a whole lot of money

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that might be a good option

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think excuse me i think that thing will be awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and i think he was saying like what september

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): coming up real soon

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was like their first batch was spoken for by a retailer

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then they'll be available everywhere else a little

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think it's pretty cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and then just like some of the eaa 20 what do they call them 23 11s

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tough to keep track of all that i don't remember those are pretty cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i just uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): saw bob from gideon was in the chat and was like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can't all put out new stuff every week

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then he was like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): well i can but not everyone can valor mini direct mount for glock gen 6 launches 9 7 26

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in a month

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): great should have been there bob

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): awesome man

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dutch walker was at the show i didn't even see him

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 10 man says i used my civilian medical kit two weeks ago after a plane crash mostly gauze and bandages, but lost my Pulse Ox lanyard making an improvised dog leash. Nice.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah. But let's see. I mean, overall the event is like very well organized, very well run. It just, I don't think

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I don't

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think Des Moines has maybe the

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): amount of people that you need to fill a show like this. I don't know. I don't know.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was, it was great overall. Just not, not a ton of people there. We did see a ton of WLS listeners there. People from all over the fricking country, Alaska, California, Texas.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Was

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it Rhode Island, Iowa, Illinois?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like, yeah, people coming in from all the States. That's the thing though. Like WLS listeners, they're like gun people. So they, they do this shit, but like, just the average gun owner that's that's not what they do

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think i'll think of some other stuff as we go but i just really didn't take any notes on anything that really blew my mind or anything uh all the dudes in the chat any cool stuff you guys saw throw it down

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hug muffin says is eaa embracing their past advertising craziness more robot gun ladies please yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): knoxville was really smooth too this was this was really smooth i think even smoother than knoxville like they've got their event planning and running down it's just like Like, yeah, I think that the population

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know, kind of gun 2.0 people

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not big enough in Des Moines and the surrounding areas. So, like, I know people came in, but

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just don't think the local people did. I think they had other stuff going on that weekend as well.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah, overall cool event. Got to meet a lot of cool people.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Got

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to hang out. Hot Dog said we had fun at goals, but it didn't have the same vibe as last year. yeah that makes sense i can see that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know sometimes i've even seen nra shows that had

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): when they when they move around a bit they sometimes have tough

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): times

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): drawing the right amount of people

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you got to do it in a population center

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for sure and i don't know that des moines oh oh yeah that's right country boy gun said the stencil surprised him so the stenzel is the

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of new age ak that we talked about i don't know it's been a couple months now i think but it's four thousand dollars but it does like shoot really smoothly like seven six two by three nine is generally kind of an abusive round especially because ak's are not made for creature comforts they're made for one purpose killing their enemies um and you know this this this thing shoots really well like really softly and has big nice controls and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): surprised me and it is quite a cool accomplishment and seemed to run pretty good i never heard anyone complain about it all day after running it thousands of rounds through it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is just so expensive

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what was your thought on that one nick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it it's very nice it felt very nice uh it looks very nice

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um for

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it what what it's like four thousand dollars

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right yeah i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): just at that price point don't think that i would

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): buy that if

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i was looking to spend that kind of money

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah and i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): being

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): four thousand dollars like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't really i am very interested to see how many they sell

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): will be next year i'll be looking at the atf uh manufacturer report very carefully just because i don't think that there's a market for ak's at 4k

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm wrong and i hope that they do well i just don't think the people who buy ak's would buy a 4

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 000 okay no

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i think they're out there uh the problem is you need a name that makes uh reddit jerk off over them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah they need to be like some sort of

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): surplus

Nick (reference, not reviewed): or

Nick (reference, not reviewed): something

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): this also isn't really an ak like it's it's short stroke

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): like it is it is vaguely ak shaped it has a top cover that comes off sort of like an ak and it takes ak mags with a different follower

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and that's about

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and the cartridge i guess

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's that's about it

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah i guess so it's a ak derivative

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah those are pretty cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cool uh 10 man says what the fuck were the fan cooled suppressors or did i misinterpret what they were selling i was that waffen tactical

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't even think they're suppressors i think they're just hand guards

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's like uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): air

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cooled hand guards

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and they have little electric fans in them and when you walk by it goes

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the whole fucking booth just sounds like it's got big air conditioners running

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): good time

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Nick (reference, not reviewed): should do like a they should do one that's water cooled

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): has like rgb lights in it and stuff just lean full into the pc thing

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah has

Nick (reference, not reviewed): like the clear tubing wrapped around the outside of it or something

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): now i'm interested

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): might be more interested in that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Nick (reference, not reviewed): make it a full-on statement

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it kind of already is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um again

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like great event cool event

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that a lot of companies are just you know pushing they're either selling stuff really well right now and so they're pushing to meet demand or they're just trying to keep the lights on. And so they're just, uh, you know, cut out a lot of R and D and are just pushing to meet demand

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): pushing to create demand, I guess. But, uh, anyway, goals was a lot of fun. Thanks to GOA for having us out, go sign up for going owners of America. And that's Gun owners.org slash WLS is the place you can do that.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Get

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a discounted membership and you get to support an organization that is doing a hell of a lot for us as Americans.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Whoops. Show's not over.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): We got to hang out with C&G holsters while we were there a bit. Got to, you know, just talk to the homies over there. and if you're looking for a holster of any kind whether it's an iwb or owb a competition holster a duty style holster uh they have them all so go check them go check them out and see if they make it for your gun they've got more guns coming

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): later this year and they'll just keep adding to it as they go um c-a-n-d-g holsters.com coupon code wls is life will save you some money and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well we're

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 35 minutes in the show

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it time to rank some bangs

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): would

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you like to rank some bangs nick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right for those that don't don't know bang rank is a new segment that we just started doing a few weeks ago and we're getting it dialed in last week i think was the best one yet i talked to some listeners over the weekend and they also thought that the last one was uh the best one yet and they're getting into it. So yeah, we're going to keep doing it. I think, uh, I think I'm liking it. That's for sure. Jeremy, are you liking it?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy, do you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anything?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Am

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I muted?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Can

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you guys hear me?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can hear me, but I cannot hear them.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): me figure out what's going on here.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yep.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. So they can hear me, but I cannot hear them.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Let's see.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah. I forgot to mention why savage isn't here

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see i cannot hear them i guess i have to refresh or something

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let me just refresh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'll tell the story of why savage isn't here

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right so savage isn't here because he is actually evacuated from his house right now because of the fires going on in washington so he's okay his house is okay and hopefully he'll be here soon

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys hear me now

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right so just randomly that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you guys hear me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they can hear me i cannot hear them at all

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gonna tell another hunting story unleashed no i'm not

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really don't know why i can't hear them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): me speakers are set

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is going on here

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sorry

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for the audio listeners

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i really don't know what the fuck

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you guys hear me now

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): still say they can hear me but i can't hear them at all

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): going to refresh again i guess

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lenny dw sent a rumble rant two dollars just to say sean is gay

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mike

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is working yeah my mic's working and can i hear

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i can hear this

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got my audio set correctly here main stereo main stereo

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all set up okay

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): used to make their own ranch and i wish to god i would have got the recipe because it was so fucking good

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): about uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): walden

Nick (reference, not reviewed): farms

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know that i've ever had that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): truthfully

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i don't know that i've ever

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): heard of walden

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): farms i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know that i have either is that um Great Valley Ranch. What about Great Valley Ranch?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, that's fucking horrible. That's fucking F'd here. That's like right down there with fucking Kraft.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh, they're bang-ranging ranch.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Um, smart. Can you hear us now?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you can

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hear

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): us

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I can. Oh, okay.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): back.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Holy shit. I have no idea what was going on there. All right. So for your listeners, you can scan the QR code on there or just go to we like shooting.com slash rank. And, uh, you can vote for these as well. So bang rank tonight is the most internet overhyped firearm feature. Rank each feature by how much the internet acts like it's mandatory versus how much it actually improves the gun for a normal shooter.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the things that I have chosen for tonight are optics-ready slides,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): flat

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): -faced triggers, modular fire control units like the SIG 320, ambidextrous controls, flared magwells, threaded barrels, and adjustable gas blocks. So what we'll be ranking is how overhyped are they compared to how useful they are. So for example, you know, like if you talk about a suppressor, that'd probably be like F because it's not over ranked overhyped at all. Like suppressors are awesome.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Any

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): questions, Jeremy, before we get started?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sorry.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it wouldn't, if it's overhyped, that means it's like, it's not as useful as people say it is.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yes. Yes. So, yeah. so how much the internet hypes it compared to how much it actually improves the gun or shooting for a regular shooter so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): basically the

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): most overhyped thing will be the highest on this list which is s tier and then it's a b c d f like uh school grading and you know like the most useful of all these things will be like f

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this is

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like a japanese video game got it

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah exactly whatever that means uh first up on the docket for the most internet overhyped stuff is optics ready slides

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick i'll start off with you is this overhyped or is this fucking awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's fucking awesome because having

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an

Nick (reference, not reviewed): optic on a having a red dot on a pistol is is awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree so f for you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): wait but it's uh the internet acts like it's mandatory um i'm gonna to go

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna go d because i don't think that it's absolutely mandatory but if it's like a brand new gun coming out

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): should be optics ready just

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know because like having the option doesn't hurt anything

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gonna also go d i think that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that the hype is real and like i want optics ready slides for just about everything that doesn't have to be everything and if you're like getting an optics you can take a non-optics ready slide and put cool red dots on them like the bodyguard 2.0 and the pebble and the pebble too

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy what are your thoughts here

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wish there was something that was like dead in the middle like i wish there wasn't an f so b was just like flat in the middle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i mean yeah i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but because

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like we don't want that

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gotta pick a side i'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): completely neutral on it um i understand yes if you want a red dot it's insanely useful if you're never going to put a red dot on there it's not useful at all it's just one more thing to loosen up and fall off of the gun and allow shit into the you know into the inside of the fucking gun and if you don't fuck replace it um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it doesn't take away from the fact of we live in an era where red dots are very common and if you're going to release a new gun as long as it's not like you know the classic version of that gun like

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you're not

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna release like a classic version of a cz 75 with a fucking red dot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah you

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know what mean yeah um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah i mean i'll agree with you guys that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's it's not overhyped at all like i don't think and it's if you're gonna put a red dot on it it's fucking cheaper to buy it with a red dot cut than it is to pay someone to fucking do it possibly fuck it up and then if there is an issue with your gun down the road you still have a fucking warranty because some asshole didn't just machine part of your fucking gun away

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i 100 agree so then do you think uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): blowing his nose and then he will tell us his grade

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i agree

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i said i said i agree with you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): d okay so not overhyped not overhyped at all done that'll drag that one to a d

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right next up

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one flat face triggers nick why don't you start us off

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know i i do like flat face triggers on some things

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on

Nick (reference, not reviewed): other things i don't really care it also depends on the flat face trigger

Nick (reference, not reviewed): so I'm going to say

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to say B.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Because

Nick (reference, not reviewed): if it doesn't have a flat face trigger, it's not that big of a deal. And sometimes I don't want that.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But

Nick (reference, not reviewed): in some cases, it's nice.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I like flat face triggers.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that they're pretty cool. I think they're way overhyped on the Internet. I think triggers as a whole are overhyped on the Internet. i think that most of the people who want to whine about triggers all the time aren't good enough shooters to really care about the trigger so i'm going to say that they're pretty overhyped i'm going to go with an a jeremy where you stand

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i think flat face just like not a better trigger just replacing a curved shoe with a flat face

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): doing nothing else is completely overhyped it's personal preference if you like flat if you like curve it's completely overhyped i'll put that in a fucking ass like doing me wrong i enjoy a flat face trigger

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yes there's no

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking hype about it i just like the feel of it in certain applications

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah sometimes

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i like a curve trigger sometimes i like a flat trigger depends on what i'm fucking doing

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree i agree

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sometimes

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm even like flat triggers sometimes i like round triggers

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean i like flat triggers i want flat triggers on everything i just don't really think

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i don't want triggers on

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): everything

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not everything but i just don't think it matters that much overall

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i agree

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): completely

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i want it uh so that that'll throw that one as an a next up is modular fire control units like serialized chassis systems and this is another one that like i want this in everything but i also understand that it doesn't need to be in everything i just think that it like creates options for the consumer that are that are pretty special now

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): does

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it really improve anything for the consumer is the consumer really out there changing from you know a full-size frame to like a a compact frame and just you know throwing the same slide and the same fire control unit in there and then putting different magazines in are they really doing that i don't really think anyone is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i think if there was more support for it there people would be i don't

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): buy used guns from people i know what people say when they well i bought this but then i realized i wanted it a little bit smaller and i fucking you know they trade me a glock 17 for a glock 19 because i really like glock but the 17 was just a little bit bulky for what they wanted to do with it and if they could have just popped it out bought a new fucking frame and went about their day they would have done that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy what's your rating for uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): modular

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fire control units

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): also

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): there's no downside to it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no absolute downside to the fire control unit fire control unit being the firearm and that makes it infinitely moddable through 3d printing and a bunch of other shit um no i put this at an f i think there's no i don't think the i don't think i don't even know that there's a hype about it it's just in our modern day and age like i want to see a company come out where that fucking fire control group like works in a goddamn shotgun

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah you

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know i mean like you just fucking throw it in like a hundred different things and it just works i want that that'd be awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree nick where do you stand

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i stand with jeremy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think that it's awesome i am not aware of any any real cons like he said um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): allows for a lot of um customization and stuff like there have been times where i've been like man this is really cool and this is really cool and i wish i could take the features from this and this or the size of this and this and combine them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but these things aren't compatible with each other so having having the option to do that customization as well as opening up to stuff like you guys are big fans of the mischief machine stuff yeah um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the 3d printing um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i i think it's awesome i would also say that one's an f

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i too agree it's an f not overhyped at all

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): boom okay

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ambidextrous

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): controls for like an ar

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): or even a pistol honestly just

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as a right

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hander

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a right hander as a left hyped overall or is the hype real

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): love ambi controls and i'd actually use ambi controls but i also think that left-handed people exist as much as we try to pretend like they don't and uh i think that being able to you know use their guns in the same way that us right-handed correct-handed folks do is like an important thing but just even then like i like being able to lock my bolt back with my with my trigger finger while i'm pulling the charging handle back with my left hand like I like that a lot I don't think it's I'm overhyped at all. I'm going to give

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Ambi controls

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): C

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't think that it's overhyped, but I also don't know that it needs to exist everywhere because I know that it adds cost and I know a lot of people are very cost conscious. So I'm going to rate it a C. Nick, what do you think?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hmm you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): make a good argument for c but i'm gonna say

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it kind of depends on the ambi controls too

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a lot of stuff is reversible these days like reversible mag catches and stuff i think make a lot of sense

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the the bolt catch and the safety specifically on an ar yes like being able to keep your firing hand on the gun and lock the bolt back

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is is fantastic uh i use the unambi safety on all of my ars i'll use my index finger to flip it back to safe and my thumb to flip it to fire yep um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh i really like that stuff on pistols it's not as big of a deal for me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i probably should practice left-handed but i don't really

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm going to say

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna say d

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): d jeremy

Nick (reference, not reviewed): what do you say

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm correct-handed and as a correct-handed person i would say s as if but if i was a wrong-handed person i would say f so like as a correct-handed person who doesn't use the fucking devil's hand and you know um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): first

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): off all you lefties the nun should have beat you harder secondly

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): use your right hand use your correct hand um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna now refer to right and left as correct and wrong

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no no just in life like that's my wrong side turn wrong

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): love this

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think ambi controls uh if you're right handed and you're like have to have ambi controls on everything like you're just fucking retarded and i know you can make up a thousand scenarios what if i get shot in my right hand and i have to use my left hand like okay i get it prepping for prepping for contingencies is a thing but the way that some people fucking stroke out about it just annoys the piss out of me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um like you have a fucking 20 range toy and you like have to put ambies on it like get fucked bro you're not taking that to combat

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): or you

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): even carry it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a 500 ar and they're like oh it's not ambies trash like right

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shut up shut up

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so because that uh because i am a correct-handed person i

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): will

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): put When you average the host stuff together, uh, flared Magwell's. So, you know, added Magwell's flared Magwell's a bigger flared Magwell on some guns.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): where do you stand hyped or, or

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): need them?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Um, I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think that Magwell's are awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on

Nick (reference, not reviewed): things like competition guns or, uh, uh not carry guns

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the most part they're not really necessary on double stack pistols in my opinion

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you have a wider opening to get into and usually the top of the mag is tapered a little bit

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): on single stack pistols that are large like a 1911

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think they make a little bit more sense

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh i am gonna go

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna go a with that one oh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): okay yeah go ahead nick oh no that's all i that yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh this was you took the thing away

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh flared

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): magwell's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): flared magwells um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): makes sense on things like competition guns or things where you're planning on but again if you if you're like looking at just a normal ass gun like don't get me wrong i like flared magwells i like to have some of them are fucking ridiculous like the reason i hate every goddamn 2011 i've ever held is because they put a flared magwell on there that looks like the end of a fucking

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sousaphone

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on the bottom

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): of a fucking gun,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's running right... Right into the middle of the palm of my hand. It's fucking annoying. Stop it.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): But like, I get it. Like competition pistols or even on a carry gun. If you're really concerned about a mag change in the middle of a firefight, like I get it. I get contingencies, but on most of your shit, it's fucking pointless. Like you can make an argument for me on your carry gun. you can make an argument for me on a fucking you know three gun or speed steal or anything like that but but like if you just got like a fucking again a cheap little range toy

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that you go fuck around with and you're gonna be like I'm not buying it because it doesn't know flyer and magwell like get get fucked you're not even training with that gun you just go shoot it to have fun like stop

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): kind of goes in there with with ambi controls like you can make an argument for it sure in certain situations but like most of the time

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah added

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): cost added weight added a fucking flare in the middle of my goddamn hand where you're like stop this

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i know you hate

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that but i mean like not just that like even they're like internally ramped that that like a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's fine slight outward yeah that's totally cool yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i have one of my 1911s has a, you know, the mainspring housing has a little piece on the bottom of it that goes up to the bottom of the magwell, and it just bevels it a little bit, and you'd never even know holding the gun. It's a small bevel. It's not one of those magwells that some of those guys have where you can basically throw a mag from 30 yards away, and it'll just guide it in there.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you're pretty sure that there's like a black hole that just sucks the mag up like

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i get it get

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it for certain reasons i do yeah um but like if you're like i'm not gonna buy it because it doesn't have a flared mag well like go fuck yourself um it makes me just hate those people more um not so much you liking it you being so stuck on it makes me hate the thing that you like as much as i hate you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): get that but i'll give it a b

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): b okay

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's like again you can make it you can make the case for it in you know places where you need quick mag change and you need um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like the other part of that is like you know you should be mag changing behind cover

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so i love flared magwells i want them on all my guns i think that they're awesome i think that they actually help in you know like competition reloads or even just being at the range like practicing i think they're awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i also think that active self-protection john korea has like a lot of data that he's amassed over a very long period of time and out of thousands of his analyzed defensive encounters active mid-flight emergency reloads by private citizens happen almost never most civilian gunfights end in just a few seconds and involve fewer than five rounds fired

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like yeah maybe these are these are overhyped overall like i want them but i don't think that they're mandatory i don't know that they're

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i carry it i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): carry a spare mag for contingencies

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): get contingencies but yeah it's probably going to be pointless

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): give it a i give it an s i think it's very overhyped uh which is going to take our average on this one to an a boom lord magwell's threaded barrels

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gonna go ahead and start this one uh you know we're gonna say threaded pistol barrels so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they useful absolutely do i have them yes do i buy them sometimes

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): indubitably

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but i also think that most of the people that i know that have threaded barrels on their shit they'll buy it to put a suppressor on it then they put a suppressor on it and they shoot it like once or twice and they never put a suppressor on it again or they say they're going to buy a comp and then they put a comp on and it starts coming loose and they just don't like them um i think the threaded barrels people would demand them constantly and use them never i give i think they are the most overhyped

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh thing

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's kind of going on right now like they are useful when you actually need it but the amount of people that demand them and demand companies release them and then actually use them is is is just crazy so i'm gonna say that's an s nick what do you think

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah if you're not mounting anything on it then it is essentially worthless

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is if you're not putting something on it it is all downside basically you know like the velocity gain is minimal

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and you just have more shit sticking off the front of your gun

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): But, yeah, if you are running a compensator or putting a suppressor on it,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then

Nick (reference, not reviewed): obviously it is very helpful. And if a company is putting out a new gun, I definitely don't think that a threaded barrel should be like the highest priority. That's like, we have all of the other bases covered, now we're going to put out a version with a threaded barrel.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i do think that they should make a threaded barrel available

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): within

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a reasonable amount of time so that uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): people

Nick (reference, not reviewed): who want to run suppressed or a comp or whatever can do that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): am gonna say

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): b

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay jeremy i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): will put threaded barrels on every handgun that i can because i have a lot of suppressors and i shoot suppressed a lot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shoot your handguns suppressed a lot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like i have a gun i own a gun range i own 30 suppressors

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i i do it a lot for shits and giggles suppressing handguns is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's fun it's it's not great like it's it's it's more just like yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right go

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): pew pew

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you do it a couple times but honestly like i i feel like they

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i and i want the ability to do it right i want the so but a lot of the time i have a threaded barrel you know with modern guns i don't need to hand fit them so i just have a threaded barrel sitting around

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): when i want to shoot that gun suppressed i put it in there yeah and when i don't want to shoot it suppressed or like i use it for display or something like that like there's a pistol with a suppressor on it on my wall um but yeah by and large i don't but i always want the option but like to say like oh if it doesn't have a threaded barrel then you know i'm not gonna buy it it's just a retarded take um i wouldn't say they're overhyped because if you want to shoot suppressed um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know it's kind of a kind of a required feature

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but like in everyday like normal situations no

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i agree so what would you rank this one then

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i don't know i'm trying to talk myself into thinking

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): about it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna go see

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see threaded

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): barrel jeremy c

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's going to take it to an average of a b on threaded barrels and then adjustable gas blocks and i'm really curious to see where we go with this one because i know generally we're like you know get a good gun you don't really need to mess with it a whole lot but nick where do you uh nope jeremy where do you stand on adjustable gas blocks are they overhyped or are they

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are we specifically

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): for ar-15s

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure yeah yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we'll say our ar-15s

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not over

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you plan on shooting suppressed and unsuppressed in the same gun you know no they're not because some guns

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know won't run one way and they will run the other way sure you could do work in the back end i've talked about this before where you can you know it's a balancing act between pressure up front and spring power in the back you know on weight

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you can always play with the back end as well ha ha ha ha

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you can play with the front end the back end ha ha ha ha

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um but

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think the tactile ones that go click click click click are more useful okay for competition setting if you want to if you want to tweak that thing down to where it you know you can double tap at 50 yards and the bullets are half an inch apart because that's what you're doing with it but as soon as that gun's got a couple hundred rounds through you you got to wipe the bolt down between uh stages otherwise you're going to have fucking failures like you are free to do that

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah but

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like on a normal everyday rifle that's not what they're for um people always want to buy those set screw you know i don't even call those adjustable i call those tunable

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a tunable gas block not really adjustable you know i mean yeah but i mean because you you're supposed to tune it set it and not fucking touch it nobody's backing that set screw off running it out four times running the set screw back in to then shoot suppress that's not what they're for

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right so like if i'm excluding those because in my head they're not adjustable i mean technically buying the new one that came out where you can drill a new fucking hole into it is adjustable

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is it really you know you don't go back

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that i don't think that It's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): adjustable. It's just

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): as adjustable as a fucking, I mean, but it's tunable, right? It's a tunable gas

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): block. Yeah.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): So I think the adjustable ones, especially if you plan on shooting suppressed and unsuppressed in the same gun because, oh, it shoots unsuppressed. Great. You put a can on it. Beats the hell out of you. Beats the hell out of the gun. Yeah. Adjustable gas blocks are pretty nice in that situation. if you have a gun and don't own a suppressor and you plan on never buying a suppressor an adjustable gas block is a fucking waste of time

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like that so like if you need one yeah they're not worthless if you don't need one they're completely fucking worthless

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): guess

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what the engineering's already been done for you that's why they put the gas block on there at the factory

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do you think they're overhyped or you think that they're

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a mixed bag they're they're they're not overhyped if you're suppressing and you want to you want to be able to go back and forth and they're completely overhyped if uh you're not planning on doing anything with it so i'm gonna go i'm gonna go b

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): interesting nick stepped away for a second i'm trying to think like when i need an adjustable gas block

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think they're overhyped at all

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't i don't think they're overhyped at all i'm gonna go d

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): go d on that which is going to give us an average of c on that one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that is going to i'm back oh yeah yeah nick's back what do you think adjustable gas blocks

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't think that they're just for suppressor use um there are definitely guns that come from the factory uh with gas ports that are too big

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and they're they're just over gassed uh especially on like a competition rifle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): having

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a something that you can easily fine-tune and i know that you can do things with uh buffer weight and spring and stuff but having something that you can easily adjust um to shoot as smoothly and softly as possible with a specific load can be very valuable

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um on

Nick (reference, not reviewed): something that is like a like a hard use

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a duty carbine or you know like your go-to

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): self-defense or into the world rifle i would rather not have an adjustable gas block on it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'd

Nick (reference, not reviewed): rather just set it up as best i can um and just eliminate any additional

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bullshit yeah uh so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): there are times when i when i do not want them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): there are a lot of times where they are very valuable and they can be

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): awesome

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and time and money savings especially with how fucking expensive things like tungsten are now

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): trying to tune a heavy buffer

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): or something like that or buying a bunch of springs and buffers and stuff can add up very quickly, whereas you can go buy one adjustable gas block for like $60 to $100. Obviously, they're not all created equal, and some are much worse than others. I am going to go... Let's see.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to go...

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'll stick with C.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Alright,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): well then... Yeah, that... So keeps our average there at C, which is going to be all of them here. So now we've got to go look and see what our final results were. So this is the most internet overhyped feature. And we were going to rank each feature by how much the internet acts like it's mandatory versus how much it actually improves the shooting or the task. Flared Magwells hosts A, viewers B. Flat face triggers A,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): viewers B. and don't forget higher equals more hyped more overhyped

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): threaded

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): barrels hosts b viewers d i get that one ambi controls uh everyone ranked it at a c level

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): adjustable

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gas blocks everyone ranked it at a c level optics ready slides everyone ranked it at a d level meaning that they are not overhyped at all and then modular fire control units the hosts ranked it at an f and the viewers at a C. So the viewers thought it was a little bit more hyped up than the hosts did. But

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that was great discussion as always. I'm actually starting to very much enjoy these. The Bang Ranks. And if you guys have any ideas for Bang Rank, just go to email automated at welikeshooting.com and let us know what your thoughts are and I will try to get that added to an upcoming episode or I'm sorry, edition of Bang Rank

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): soon as I can Where'd it go? There it is.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. So that's Bang Rank for the night. I appreciate everyone playing along in the chat. Let's talk about Midwest Industries because they rank high on my Bang Scale, if you know what I mean.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nick, do

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you have a lever action? I forget. I think you have a 22, right? Yeah, I do.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Do

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they make anything for that one?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Unfortunately, they do not.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Oh,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really sad.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I they

Nick (reference, not reviewed): did, though.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really like their

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): their

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): stuff but you know like you don't have to just go upgrade stuff that already exists on your ar your ak or whatever like if you're looking for optics mounts that are going to hold their zero they've got qd mounts that are that are actually really really good uh you can go to midwestindustriesinc.com that's midwestindustriesinc.com all made in the united states and they're just constantly putting out new stuff they don't actually go to a lot of the shows like gun con and goals and that stuff because i think they're just so busy putting out new things that uh they don't have time

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for that nonsense they're trying to make stuff so if you're looking for an optic mount for your red dot for your rifle or

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lpvo any of that stuff your scope i think they have a ton of stuff out there and their their newer versions are even better than the stuff that i've used previously so use coupon code wls is life over at midwestindustriesinc.com that's midwest industries inc.com

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): dirt racer and dutch walker talking about the superlative arms adjustable gas block

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hate that motherfucker

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know you do

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hate that fucking gas block so fucking much i've never gotten one to run on their like bleed off bullshit ever

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have one that i bought to fix a problem and it has never fixed the problem

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so fun i'm like this is the fucking dumbest gas block ever

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hate it i hate it so much

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is my

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is my uh idaho in and out clone nice my rock 57 with the light and a bowers group uss suppressor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was like hey i've got a gun similar to that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): actually that's not clone correct

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it is not

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): clone correct i said inspired i said clone inspired

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he had the fn right

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we'll talk about it a little bit more later in the show but right now

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just really feel like i need to

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fight

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): somebody

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): just you said clone so i was trying to do the actually the loner thing yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): actually fucking

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): losers shut up uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's time for gunfights

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's time for gunfights and you know what that means it means that it's two players tonight jeremy pozderick and sean heron

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): only one can win

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oops

Nick (reference, not reviewed): sorry

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you go two mans enter

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one

Nick (reference, not reviewed): man leaves

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeez

Nick (reference, not reviewed): there it is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): why

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you leave the stage

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): my bad

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bad

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): two

Nick (reference, not reviewed): mans enter

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one

Nick (reference, not reviewed): man man's leaves

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if anyone doesn't know oh yeah hold on hey guys I play gunfights on my phone

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hey

Nick (reference, not reviewed): did you guys know that Sean plays gunfights on his phone and Jeremy has an SOT and a leather jacket

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): chaps

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): haven't rubbed my motorcycle in like two years so I haven't worn my leather jacket a long time

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't really think you rode it very often before

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not like a biker i bought a motorcycle because i always wanted ones and the things scared me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i don't like being scared so i bought one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i would become less scared because i don't like less than two or less than uh four wheels

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): same so

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i bought one rode around for a couple years i mean i've had it for i bought it on my 30th birth like for my 30th birthday so i mean i've had that thing for like 11 years now

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think it's got less than 3 000 miles on it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): doesn't surprise me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah they're

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fine

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): honestly

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i thought about selling it for uh towards a new tractor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean that's that's a good buy right there right i told my buddy if he bought my tractor so I could go buy another tractor I'd sell him my tractor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he was like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): me think about it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I want a bigger tractor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): life as a cager?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cager?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Super Gorilla Glue. One day we were in Illinois and Sven Janssen got in a green army

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): duffel

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): bag. And I put it on my shoulders and I walked around with him on my back. That was very nice. It was funny. It was

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): very

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): funny. On their back deck.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see all right nick it is gunfights

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay

Nick (reference, not reviewed): are you guys ready i am ready steady go

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is the first gun

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a winchester 92

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a pre-64 it was made in 1962 which you may was before 1964 um it is a gunsmith special

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): had 24 bids you called it a 92 it's a 94 uh uh yeah sorry i was looking at the 62 and the all that shit anyway yeah it's a 94 in 30 30 um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): in overall acceptable condition it's definitely been used it's missing some finish in some places it's got some scuffs and whatnot but not too terrible it hasn't been just you know completely

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): miserably mistreated um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): does say that it has notable rust all over

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't know that must be like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the stuff on the mag tube and stuff it once again i was only able to get one photo on here um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i was running a little a little behind today

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the finish in the other photos did not look that bad they also did not specify why it's a gunsmith special

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i don't

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know if it's got some problem that wasn't mentioned or what

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to call it a gunsmith special usually they don't work

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they'll

Nick (reference, not reviewed): usually be like you know it doesn't have this or something is broken or

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know whatever

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): penny

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): auction huh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes

Nick (reference, not reviewed): this is also a penny auction

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the 1964 is that what denotes cnr

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): no there was a buyout from when uh there's a winchester got bought out i see and changes were made

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's like a pre-cbs fender

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that if that means anything to you um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah the pre-64 winchesters are typically

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i remember correctly it wasn't preferred i don't remember if it was a company change but it was a design change like to make them cheaper like they couldn't make them for the same price anymore

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and they were going to be

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): too expensive so they changed the design and so the pre-64 was before all those design changes i think i don't know it could have been a company change but i don't remember that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know there were definitely design changes i guess i just assumed it was a buyout thing

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it was like uh well we can't make it at you know it was like uh you know colcom well we can't make the python by hand anymore otherwise they'd be five grand a piece

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah all

Nick (reference, not reviewed): right the uh the bids are in jeremy says 300 sean says 424

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for $537

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wow yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): which means that Sean was $113 off where's the there's the button

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sean

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you won you were $113 off it sold for $537

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I was listening

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): amazing that people like they're like oh yeah by the way the barrel's completely blown out on the other side of the gun like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): people would be like yeah i'll risk it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i i am shocked that it went for that high i was literally going going between like 300 and 400 i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had 400 and i changed it to 300 yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i am shocked that it went for that much maybe they're just a desire

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gun

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): broker's just fucking full of reason no what somebody needs is the fucking stock in that leather lever and they can't find one so they're like fuck it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 500

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay well i'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): happy that i won

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): somebody's like i need a parts gun

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All

Nick (reference, not reviewed): right.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Now

Nick (reference, not reviewed): we have.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): God damn it. The picture's cut off.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): How

Nick (reference, not reviewed): do I?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Nick (reference, not reviewed): can't even fucking see the thing.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Drag

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I could

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see it.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): You could

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): drag

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it with your mouse.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Can

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I? Yeah.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): like trying to drag the photo to my desktop or something.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is. Oh, there we go. I've got to click and release.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): okay

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a springfield 1911 prodigy ds awesome custom pistol nine millimeter

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): awesome i'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): not familiar with the nine millimeter awesome cartridge

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): maybe you guys are

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh this one had

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 56 bids

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um let's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): see this is the the five inch model it is uh v-ported it's got a copper pvd finish

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they replaced the uh the polymer grip with a steel grip

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um or

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is that aluminum excuse me it's an aluminum uh aluminum grip not steel uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god

Nick (reference, not reviewed): dude i have to go see more that it cut off the uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is this awesome that's like what i'm trying to figure out is how awesome it is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): nine

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): millimeter awesome it looks pretty awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's got a copper pvd uh barrel in it um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): see it's got a miller precision aluminum grip

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an

Nick (reference, not reviewed): enhanced trigger and ignition kit a tool-less guide rod uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): has a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): optic

Nick (reference, not reviewed): cut which i think they all come from the factory with one right

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and then the whole thing has a cerakote job

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a camo pattern

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): kind of just looks like it has uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): chromosomes

Nick (reference, not reviewed): all over it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then um it comes with all the takeoff parts

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and those

Nick (reference, not reviewed): appear to have a bunch of paint on them for the most part

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): somebody

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was throwing like painted worms at it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah exactly yeah it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): an interesting paint job

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 56 bids on this this here bad boy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean i i can understand why somebody would want this and 56 bids is quite a bit

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think i could understand it just

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think i would not want that paint job

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean yeah i agree

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the package overall if the paint job was better would be pretty sick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Nick (reference, not reviewed): right uh jeremy says 1500 sean says 1856

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): there a reserve do you ever tell us if there's a reserve on these things

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh no

Nick (reference, not reviewed): because honestly i don't look

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): because like that would be handy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it doesn't uh if it doesn't meet the reserve then i don't

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't use it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i get that but some people put retarded reserves on things and like that would be nice to know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but then it eliminates like a part of our guessing zone

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so does penny auctions and gunsmith specials and a

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lot a

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): lot of stuff eliminates

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i don't think so any

Nick (reference, not reviewed): auctions can still go for

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): shitload of money

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because if they can also

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): go for a dollar

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick because like the reserve is 1500 on this like we know it sold we know it had 56 bids so like our minimum bid is 1500

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where no i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just want to know if there was a reserve oh i see because that because the people that built this are fucking like oh our shit's worth fucking three grand and we won't sell it for

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): less than

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know what mean yeah i just want to know if there was a reserve not what the reserve was

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also i have no fucking idea what the theme is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): put gunsmith special because you're gonna have to fix it after they fucked it up

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for 2580 dollars

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the fucking

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): retarded so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): sean was 724 dollars off making him the closest

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is bonkers insane dude these are what 1400 brand new

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think so but i mean there's like another half a gun here so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's true i guess it's just

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): twenty

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): five hundred dollars

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): go

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): go buy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gun yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): already has all that.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, dude, you could literally.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Without a shitty paint job.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. You could get this painted by,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, one of the best and still pay a thousand dollars less than this.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but it's got like that aluminum grip and those are fucking expensive. bucks.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying doing it to a prodigy is retarded. Or if somebody did it to a prodigy and you buy it, you're retarded. when you could just buy guns that are made with all of these parts

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Nick (reference, not reviewed): $2,500?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): probably.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think you can buy an aluminum 2011 with an aluminum grip for $2,500.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Maybe. Maybe.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): All right. Next gun.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy get the theme right?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Nope.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is a Bushmaster XM-15. es2 semi-auto 556 rifle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is an m16 a2 type setup but it is a dissipator so it's got a 16 inch barrel

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't know if it has a actual rifle length gas system or if it's technically a mock dissipator

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is pre-ban

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in

Nick (reference, not reviewed): case you guys were wondering

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay very

Nick (reference, not reviewed): important um says it's test-fired and is in very nice condition throughout.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 70 bids.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): And yeah, I think this thing's pretty sweet, personally.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a pretty cool rifle. Good old A2 setup.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know, the shorter barrel.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Bruh. The

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): theme is killing me. I have no idea.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): got vibes for days.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): does. It's out here. Aura farming.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and it comes

Nick (reference, not reviewed): with the little warranty card the user manual and the sling if you nail in that warranty card what do you think happens

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): could build that gun for a thousand dollars

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you couldn't

Nick (reference, not reviewed): because this is a pre-ban bro pre-ban

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Bushmaster

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): pre-ban bro

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hate that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking hate that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ban is lifted the ban means nothing

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Alright

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy says 3,000 doll hairs

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Fuck

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Sean says 2,570 doll hairs Jeremy says Retards buying guns

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sean

Nick (reference, not reviewed): says Optional theme guess

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): For

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 1,875 dollars

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Jesus The one time they're not retarded in my favor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I know

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy was 600 excuse me sean was 695 off making him the closest

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): am shocked that went for so little

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a pretty sweet rifle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Nick (reference, not reviewed): right guys

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you ready

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is an unobtainium knight's armament sr30 cqb pistol

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 300 aac blackout

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is gonna be our

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sorry

Nick (reference, not reviewed): even though it's a pistol um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh this one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): had

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 56 bids

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh you know it's got all the the stuff that makes the knights of knights like the uh what the dual ejectors the i think they've got a slightly different bolt design if i remember correctly like the shape of the lugs is a little

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): got a 1.7 twist barrel. Yeah, does have the E3 bolt system. It's fully ambidextrous.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): got the URX4 handguard on it. It comes with their

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): flash

Nick (reference, not reviewed): hider suppressor mount.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean, I'm sure that this is probably

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): nice rifle.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't have

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): crazy amount of experience with Knight's stuff.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, dude, it's got an A2 grip, and I know that somebody just way overpaid for this shit.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is used.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): used, huh? But it is in very, very good condition.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): had to

Nick (reference, not reviewed): go double check

Nick (reference, not reviewed): because it looks new.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): The Tards freak out for fucking Knights. KAC.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All

Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Jeremy says $3,000. Sean says $3,156. Jeremy says, I stand by what

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I said about retards. Sean

Nick (reference, not reviewed): says pre-ban companies.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This

Nick (reference, not reviewed): one sold

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Nick (reference, not reviewed): $3,000, excuse me, $6,352.27.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which

Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that Sean was $3,196.27.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bro what

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the actual fuck

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): slightly closer than jeremy who now has a headache

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): holding on to the bridge of his nose

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy is stunned into silence

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): six

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thousand three hundred fifty two dollars

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's fucking insane isn't

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i fucking i stand by what i said

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no there's no way there's no way this had to be they were just trying to bid it up and then accidentally won

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fuck

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do people fucking jerk off overnight shit

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know and there's nothing special about that gun

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean I think that there is stuff that is special about that gun just not $6,000 special

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): people with down syndrome are called special too

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): true alright this one's a Kimber 84M Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor retained by the Kimber Factory alright listen up Sean uh excuse me this one had 41 bids and now you'll want to listen to this description because i know you're getting to a certain age and you've begun to take an interest in kimber firearms

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one's going to be for you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): true

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): has

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a 22 inch stainless barrel it's got a smooth fde synthetic stock and recoil pad

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): has a drilled and tapped receiver which i thought was funny that they felt the need to list that like it's a feature

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): not on fucking every bolt action rifle made for the last like 80 years

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it doesn't

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): come with fucking iron sights so they're not going to drill and tap it for a scope

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah yeah it's just that you have no option to do anything with it um this one was factory retained from leslie edelman's personal holdings and released from Kimber Vault

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): ships with the original box and COA letter.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): not sure what that... What's a COA letter?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Certificate of Authenticity.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, okay.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then I love this at the end. Note, missing floor plate, spring, and magazine follower.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the fuck?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yep. So,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): again,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 41 bids. it is a stainless bolt action rifle and a synthetic tan stock that doesn't have any checkering or anything on it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a lightweight rifle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): lightweight

Nick (reference, not reviewed): profile

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 20

Nick (reference, not reviewed): inch 65 creedmoor missing all of the parts that it needs to hold rounds in the magazine

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so confused bro

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): an interesting one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know the fucking theme i'm stumped

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Hold

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on, don't tell us yet Let me just do one final scan of the items

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): trying to find some common Factor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'd

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): say they gotta be in a movie

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'd say they gotta be in a movie So let's see

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What

Nick (reference, not reviewed): movie would you say they gotta be in?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Trying

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to think, so Springfield Prodigy Is only a few years old, so it's gotta be a more Recent movie

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'd

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): say some of these are pretty hipster so okay guest submitted

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so jeremy

Nick (reference, not reviewed): says

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): two

Nick (reference, not reviewed): thousand dollars in paperwork

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean

Nick (reference, not reviewed): says two thousand one hundred forty one dollars and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): juan

Nick (reference, not reviewed): wick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or

Nick (reference, not reviewed): john wick for you english speakers yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): fucking americans

Nick (reference, not reviewed): well

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'll

Nick (reference, not reviewed): have you guys know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sold

Nick (reference, not reviewed): for

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nine

Nick (reference, not reviewed): hundred and five dollars oh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which

Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that sean does not get a clean sweep tonight

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): reasonable

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): thought i got the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): shout

Nick (reference, not reviewed): out was 109 $355 off. God damn it. So he wins that round.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'll I

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): will

Nick (reference, not reviewed): tell you guys the theme

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that the game is over and neither of you got it.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let

Nick (reference, not reviewed): me see here.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): She's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): going to pull this up here. Brown guy.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Josh from Texas asked us about Winchester 94s.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Anonymous Coward from Ohio

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): asked

Nick (reference, not reviewed): us about springfield prodigies

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck

Nick (reference, not reviewed): specifically the five inch model

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): see chad from michigan asked us about ars in 556 and 300 blackout

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): anonymous coward from arizona asked us about lightweight hunting rifles and 65 creed

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): damn it it was stuff from gunfights or um from dear wls tonight

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's genius

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): genius

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay that's just now another thing that i need to keep in my mind when we're playing gunfights minnesota gun guy said fuck you nick

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did you say who won in uh listener

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): no i have not gotten there

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): looks

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like it's a four-way tie right now one two three four five way tie so there's going to have to be a

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tiebreaker there

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): holy

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shit

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): while

Nick (reference, not reviewed): they discuss their tiebreaker

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we'll

Nick (reference, not reviewed): go through some stats here Sean won tonight he got four out of five correct

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he

Nick (reference, not reviewed): lost that last one

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): otherwise it would have been he didn't get any of them correct he was just closer

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i was only a hundred

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dollars off on the first one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep 113

Nick (reference, not reviewed): dollars on the first one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um let's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): scroll down here to

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh overall

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean

Nick (reference, not reviewed): has 24 jeremy has 19 savage is still at 13 i am still at three points for the season

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): go

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um sean

Nick (reference, not reviewed): tonight was an average of 1192.85 off of the uh total

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy

Nick (reference, not reviewed): was an average of 1377.85 off

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): for the the season so far

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is an average of 1422 off savage is an average of 185 excuse me 1851 dollars and jeremy is an average of 2139 dollars so uh 1400 for sean 1800 for savage 2100 for jeremy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn

Nick (reference, not reviewed): um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is is pretty interesting because

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): could have your average distance from being correct

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh be

Nick (reference, not reviewed): higher you know like jeremy's situation

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): be 2100 off on average and still be doing very well like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100 percent um because

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): say

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you get like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): three

Nick (reference, not reviewed): of them right

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): tonight

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and then the other two are like way the fuck off

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Nick (reference, not reviewed): totally skews your average

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's pretty crazy like and for the season i'm 35 000 off jeremy's 42 000 off

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gotta keep my lead though because like sean maloney gifted me those points and that cannot be how i win like i have to win by a decisive number

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i really hope that you win by one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or two or whatever

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it was he gave me two i think

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like i have i absolutely without question have to win by at least three

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): plow guy dave's uh tiebreaker in the chat was says uh when did sean introduce agency 171

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): no

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fucking clue

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): got

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a bunch of guesses here

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): looks

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh we

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't have an answer yet

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): love how we don't even know these oh no he's like all right guys tiebreaker

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think that i've ever known one of the tiebreakers

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): me

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): either like i could probably find them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): oh sure yeah i don't know any off the top

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's cheating so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the episode numbers out there guests of our 657 640 641, 606.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just, let's see. If I had to guess, I would say it was in like last November

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what I would guess. I feel like that it was around that time frame. So yeah, maybe like 50 episodes ago. So maybe 620-ish.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): say episode 620.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna say 670

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): four

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): episodes ago

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is why you only have three points

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): shit the only way to win is not to play sean

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just thought about the game

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): while

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's doing that oh here it is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wait

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no way plaga dave said sean introduced agency 171 on episode 363 making lieutenant ran tonight's winner

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not true actually

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a hundred percent sure that's not true

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay 636

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that makes sense yeah i was sitting here thinking like is he thinking of the colt did the colt come

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): out

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay six

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): six six 36 so what did you get oh you you got six uh 70 and i guess 620 so i guess i win that one nick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lieutenant

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): rand is tonight's winner and uh you can check out the leaderboard go to we like shooting.com slash dashboard and click on listener leaderboard and check that out there and thank you to play plow guy dave from the let's go hunt podcast for always

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): handling

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gunfights

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for us and the listeners we appreciate it it's freaking awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see i'm trying to fucking get my cameras there there we are everything's good there so nick we got to you know hang out with ross martin a bit and uh touch some of the guns

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): told us about some stuff that's upcoming that we can't mention yet but i think you'll all be very excited i think it's uh very relevant to our interests i know several of the listeners uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): told

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me that they went over and uh handled the ross martins and really liked them i thought that was i always i always think that's pretty cool it's it's good to get hands on them because i really do like them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you've you've messed with the you've shot the full size right nick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah pretty

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): badass right

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i like it quite a

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bit yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i like them handguns they've got a compact subcompact they've got a comped version they've got a full size. It's all available at Rost Martin. Uh, you can find them at retailers and distributors all across the country and probably even your local gun store. And if not, they can definitely order one.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Uh,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and you get to buy all your accessories for 30% off by using coupon code WLSS life at rostmartin.com.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Nope.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Let's see here.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): looking, uh, sorry. I had to go see what time it was uh nick you actually had a couple products that i wanted to talk about in gear chat so if you don't mind going back up there and mentioning those because they look pretty cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and one of them means that to

Nick (reference, not reviewed): find more stuff for next week do

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you want me to recycle

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): could recycle that's no we can talk about it i'm just being a smart ass

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): let's see first there's the haga defense top-notch charging handle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm legitimately not sure how i feel about this so this is like going back to the original ar10 charging handle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): instead of a t handle it's a like a trigger shaped nubbin that comes out at uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 12

Nick (reference, not reviewed): o'clock and goes straight up

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that i hate it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know this is one that i think i'd have to try like the t handles can be annoying um especially if you have one that is a little bit larger to get around a scope

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know like you got the rifle slung

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it can like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know dig into you and get a little uncomfortable

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it can snag on

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): plate

Nick (reference, not reviewed): carriers and stuff

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guess

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i guess this one would be cool and that it would

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i mean as long as it cleared your optic which it looks like it should uh as long as it doesn't get in the way of your optic um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): not gonna snag on anything

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): not gonna poke you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i don't know i feel like this is just one that i would have to try

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to

Nick (reference, not reviewed): decide on

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dude i

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think I hate it, but I might think it's okay.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I'm torn. I'm like, I can't figure. It is $150, though, and that really turns me off.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Which seems just absolutely bonkers. Because

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what?

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Just a standard Radian Raptor

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Nick (reference, not reviewed): what, like $70? Yeah. Something like that, and those are expensive.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and this has

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): one of the best charging handles available in my opinion

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i agree so this one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got like a ball detent

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): which is interesting and new

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): so there's no latch it uses a it looks like a spring and a ball detent to keep it from flopping around

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i guess every upper has like a little

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dension in the top of the charging handle channel?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think so.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay, so what the fuck does the ball detent go on?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Nick (reference, not reviewed): think it's just friction.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's got a spring and a ball detent inside there.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): probably have to modify your gun with a fucking hammer and a punch.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Maybe.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know. That would be like icing on the cake, right?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Like,

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): oh yeah, by the way, get this fucking just smack the shit out of your upper and put a fucking dent here.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): oh and and to uh the the raptor lt which is the polymer one is about 80 bucks and the aluminum one is about 100

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's an expensive charging handle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is 150

Nick (reference, not reviewed): bucks seems very expensive to me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): serrade

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): top

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): notch

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't know i i just

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can't think of a time when i've ever caught my charging handle on my stuff i'm like there's always 20 20 other things that would catch but never that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dude someday might have a problem and he needs a uh top charging handle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the bigger issue i've had then uh having it snag on stuff is having it jab me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know if you get like a nice extended charging handle to get past an optic um it sticks out there and it can

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): can poke into you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um they

Nick (reference, not reviewed): also point out that this won't mar your upper

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i tend to just grab one side of the charging handle i don't usually grab both sides

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and then you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know of course when you pull back on it you're you're kind of putting torque on the charging handle which is going to make it rub on one side of your upper

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): over time um it'll kind of kind of rub in there and and cut into the aluminum

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and just again for people listening

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): instead

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of like a t charging handle where you grab either one side or both sides or whatever this is just like sticking straight up about three quarters of an inch

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): out of the back

Nick (reference, not reviewed): of the receiver no it's a little of your sites

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but but yeah it sticks straight up

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i mean this may solve a problem that a person has and i'm glad that it exists for that reason it does not really solve a problem that i have and 150 is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): understand like gotta pay for you know machine time and all that good stuff but goddamn bros

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the price hurts um i suspect

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that has something to do with the fact

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it looks like this is all machined out of one piece of aluminum

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): where a traditional

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): charging handle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Nick (reference, not reviewed): a much smaller piece of aluminum

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and then like the the the latch is another piece that is pinned in um this is all one solid piece and that tab sticks up at the back so you're probably buying like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty thick block and then

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cutting

Nick (reference, not reviewed): two charging handles out of it or or something like that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you got a lot more waste

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): at least this this is my assumption um yeah i just i thought that this was interesting i don't immediately hate it and i would be willing to give it a chance

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but i'm not sure that i would love it either

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i agree i agree with yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't i don't know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then the other thing

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): one i thought was really cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Nick (reference, not reviewed): is the dope spin

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): so what you do is you uh you put your dope in it and then you spin it back and forth and then it comes out in like smaller pieces

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can roll doobies with

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think that's true

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sorry,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): I just I was looking at that top picture and it kind of looks like one of those those grinders that they sell at head shops and stuff. It looks like my thermostat.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,

Nick (reference, not reviewed): shit. It does look like a thermostat.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, I've

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got like the Google Nest or whatever they're called. Yes. And it looks

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly like

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my thermostat.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): And the name Dope Spin combined with that appearance.

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yes anyway

Nick (reference, not reviewed): what it actually is is a little uh display that you can stick somewhere handy like they show it on a tripod they show it on a bag of ammo um i imagine you could probably mount it on a rifle

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then you put your dope into it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then it's got a handy little dial on the outside

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can literally just spin to the range that you need

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it will give you the the dope for that range it'll show you um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your

Nick (reference, not reviewed): elevation as well as windage depending on how you have things set up

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it'll hold a bunch of different profiles

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Nick (reference, not reviewed): different uh cartridges and whatnot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uses three doff

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Nick (reference, not reviewed): which i'm i'm a little bit disappointed in because i have because i think this is super cool and i kind of want one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm also pretty heavily invested in the applied ballistics ecosystem

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): same you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): know like that's what i use um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty much everything and like my rangefinder and all of that stuff

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uses

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): but yeah i thought this was pretty cool it's like about the size of a dip can so it's not very big

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um it

Nick (reference, not reviewed): does have a touch screen so you can enter information manually and i don't know for sure but i imagine

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you could probably i i assume you can connect it to like a phone or something

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah for

Nick (reference, not reviewed): easier entry of information at least i hope so uh it is two hundred dollars which is certainly not cheap but i also don't think that it's that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): out

Nick (reference, not reviewed): of line

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): lot of this stuff

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um if

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you compare it to like uh what kestrel's got a display

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think theirs is pretty expensive but you still need like a kestrel and shit for

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it exactly

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): literally just a screen

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's

Nick (reference, not reviewed): 200

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bucks

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i i thought that this was pretty cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and i am also now realizing that none of their pictures show it mounted actually on a rifle they show it like oh yeah it's everywhere but everywhere but so i'm gonna guess it won't hold up to the recoil which is kind of too bad because this would be sweet mounted to the side of a rifle if you could just reach up with your support hand

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and just

Nick (reference, not reviewed): give it a spin to the range

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you need or if you could for shooting PRS and stuff if you could put in

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): distances for the various targets in the stage and then just go up and click to the next target and have it show that dope

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): even the screen is big enough it could show the dope and the notes on what you're supposed to shoot next and be like blue diamond or whatever

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really cool i think this is awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i think that this thing is badass and i would i would very much like to play with one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and it's kind of got me uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind

Nick (reference, not reviewed): of got me thinking that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i should try something outside of applied ballistics

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sick of this shit

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): applied ballistics is just so good

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it works so well and it like has all the stuff that i use

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it connects to my watch

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so like i have my car my my applied ballistic stuff in my watch like man yeah i'm just not gonna switch

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): does the ford off is that hornady

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh i think so i don't remember

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think collector was telling us about that right

Nick (reference, not reviewed): oh yeah that is the hornady app yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know so yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): if it works with their app then i then obviously you can transfer profiles and stuff over from a phone

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cool man that's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): never even heard of these people they're just yeah uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): just stumbled across this somewhere i can't even remember where maybe somebody sent this to me

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't maybe i saw it on instagram

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's um

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): dope dash spin.com by the way

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anyone out there yeah very cool

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's pretty dope actually as it turns out

Nick (reference, not reviewed): their oldest post on Instagram is 11 weeks ago oh wow I'm they're fairly new Super new. Yeah.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Well, Otis Technology. I got to see them hang out with Jared a bit over there. And, yeah, they make cleaning products for your guns. So if you're looking for any kind of cleaning product, and that's whether it's the chemicals, whether it's the brushes, whether it's the rip cords,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you can just pull through the barrel, which is by far my preferred method. They're just super easy, and I really like them a lot. uh you can get it all out there we like shooting 15 is the code and i can see 15 off of everything out there and again they've got like ar tools and it also works at their shooters choice brand that's shooters-choice.com uh some more low cost low cost alternatives over there uh highly recommend you go check it out and if you need any supplies for cleaning

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): go

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ahead and buy them over at otistech.com

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): get into the news so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): where is the news going ballistic here we go everyone heard about the in and out uh thing that or the thing that happened at in and out with uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really know what happened yet but in idaho uh a guy was at the drive-through of in and out and decided he was going to just start shooting people so he started shooting people uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): civilian a just regular everyday dude returned fire

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): apparently caused you know that you know the resistance caused the the killer to retreat and then he went uh you know they found him a few properties over and he had eaten his own bullet thankfully which is awesome saves us a lot of time effort and money on the you know trial and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): everything that goes on with that and it turns out that this

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): citizen that was just returning fire and trying to help and i think i read that he pulled some people in and and all that kind of stuff uh had a very interesting gun that he was using to shoot back

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): as i understand it it was an fn

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): five

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seven what what the fuck is that called

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah five seven

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fn five seven

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): believe so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a red dot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a suppressor and a light and he was carrying it in a shoulder rig uh so i i got my rock and i put a can and a light and a red dot on it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): out of you know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): out

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of respect for jordan salinas who is that the dude who did it turns out that he had like some kind of creator you know uh he'd do some content on like youtube and social media and stuff like that and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know just he had a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): youtube

Nick (reference, not reviewed): channel or has a youtube channel yeah i

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think

Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's broke operator

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): something like that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): overall like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just goes to show that like everyday people can make a difference uh you know he was able to return fire and honestly a lot of these cowards these mass killers uh at any sign of resistance they will exit the playing field and you know like i said save us all a lot of time and money which is pretty good but uh you know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): definitely

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): feel really bad for all the families of those affected injured and killed apparently there was a cop there that also returned fire and he was hit but his wife actually applied a tourniquet to him and rushed him to the hospital so i think he's going to be okay um i saw in and out's response and it was actually really heartfelt and i think they had just moved actually to tennessee from from california

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): because they felt that it reflected their uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): their

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): values better in tennessee and i think that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): their

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): response to this you know they weren't calling for gun control or anything they were like you know we're we feel awful that people were injured we are heartbroken that we've lost our employees like it was a it was a very heartfelt response uh but again this guy jordan salinas he was able to effectively deploy his gun he didn't hit the killer from what i understand but it you know it did

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): creates opposition and opposition pushes bad people away very often because again they're cowards so what do you jeremy what do you think

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 100 i don't care what i don't care what his setup was i don't care how fucking goofy people think he might or may may or may not look or the videos he put i don't care any of that the man willingly walked into a two-way range

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking I can... Got shit done.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Like,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): man willingly walked into gunfire, took a round, if I remember correctly.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I don't

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): think he got shot. I

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): believe he got hit in

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the arm.

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That was, I think the cop did.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): With the other guy got hit in the arm?

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Someone, but still, the man willingly took gunfire, walked into a gunfight, and fucking,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): without

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): hesitation, it seems.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ran toward it he said

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): call it bravery or naivety whatever i don't give a shit the man did it beyond that i don't give a shit he didn't hurt innocent bystander

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and he fucking engaged good for him

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seriously

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he says that he ran toward it it was an automatic response mechanical he'd say later the last thing he remembers hearing is was his girlfriend shouting his name jordan and then the shooting started again

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he uh let's see left three dead seven others wounded and yeah he reached for his shoulder holster drew his fn fn57 with a suppressor uh he says that he worked through the framework he practiced for years he is the full-time caregiver caregiver of his wheelchair bound brother

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and that

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was actually one of the reasons that he started training he says uh because he wanted to be able to take care of his family and his brother and protect them

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this is the guy like this is awesome

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): good for him

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it really does take a

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): lot

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of courage to do something like that so he did it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he helped move people in and he you know this is the kind of person that i hope that i will be if anything bad ever happens

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i got the name of his youtube channel wrong

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Nick (reference, not reviewed): if anybody

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the live chat knows what it is then please let us know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm

Nick (reference, not reviewed): trying to find it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): had yeah poverty i looked at it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Nick (reference, not reviewed): other day and there were a bunch of uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): videos

Nick (reference, not reviewed): where he's wearing the same hat shooting the same pistol yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a poverty operator by the way

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): poverty

Nick (reference, not reviewed): operator okay thank you

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and honestly Like, I bet a bunch of people would mock his YouTube videos and his stuff, but he also has, uh,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know, more combat experience than any of them. Probably

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): watching here. I'll share this tab instead. Bada bing, bada boom.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mean, not bad.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): see if I can rewind this.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he is standing in front of a target and he walks up.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's got his hand on his shoulder holster and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know he's like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 12

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): feet away oh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pulls

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it out headshot

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bada

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bing bada boom i think he's got an in force light looks like it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i just say good for him poverty operator let me subscribe to that to that homie

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's doing some center axis relock

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): good for him fucking this is exactly who we who we hope we are and he just proved it to himself and everyone else that that's exactly who he is and I think that's fucking cool as shit so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me see what his chat saying yep chat saying all the all the same shit dude is a badass hero dude is awesome started GoFundMe dude stepped up without hesitation

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Dutch Walker says that he's completely switched over to Geo Ballistics intuitive interface very good solutions his hit percentage went up

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also have geoballistics

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that the ford off

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sorry

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): catching them on chat here it went went a little crazy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think ford off is ford off

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i also have geoballistics i

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the different stuff that i have like my vortex solvers

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my kestrel and like everything that i have uses different shit and it's really aggravating it's i wish there was a little bit of standard but again you know like they want to create their own closed systems i get that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): get it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a virginia state judge will keep the state's assault weapon ban on hold pending supreme court review

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): clarified that a preliminary injunction blocking enforcement of virginia's 2026 assault weapon sales ban applies statewide effective july 21st 2026 the ban signed by governor spamburger and effective july 1st 2026 prohibits future sale manufacture, transfer, and purchase of defined assault firearms and magazines. So,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see. The ruling creates legal limbo for the law, with Attorney General Jay Jones criticizing the statewide scope as exceeding precedent and vowing to defend it. Virginia Supreme Court declined to consolidate cases. Proceedings paused for SCOTUS guidance on analogous Second Amendment challenges in other states, highlighting tensions between state gun control efforts and post-boro and scrutiny. so virginia still in play still uh going through the

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nonsense of the gun control nazis

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): are trying to take over the people

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): interestingly

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also in virginia

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): their

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): governor abigail spanberger announced that her administration has restored voting rights to more than 66 000 felons in virginia

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): including

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): voting jury service running for office and notary public

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to those with past felony convictions one of three states whose constitution permanently disenfranchises felons leaving restoration solely to gubernatorial discretion

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh jeremy should should felons have restored voting rights

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if they're out of jail sure um but they shouldn't be out of jail until they're reformed and if they fuck up again they should be immediately executed

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): should be no third time

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thoughts

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i mean if if you are safe enough to be out

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the general public then then you should have your rights back

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): agree

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fully

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree if you have served your time you should be a citizen if you're not good enough to be a full citizen then you shouldn't be out with the other full citizens

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): colorado's new permit to purchase law takes effect august 1st 2026 this is sb 25003 effective august first requires residents purchasing semi-auto magazine fed rifles such as ar-15s to first obtain a firearm safety course eligibility card from their local sheriff

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): involves completing either four hours with recent hunter safety certification or 12 hours of training paying for a third-party background check and possible sheriff's fees sheriffs may deny issuance if they reasonably believe the applicant poses a danger the law also adds an 11 excise tax on firearms and ammunition with a pending federal lawsuit that could result in a hold

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is now in effect collar got uh training is 125 to 250 dollars plus taxes

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): absolute nonsense and i swear to god i hope some of these uh gun rights organizations start filing suits because now we have affected parties

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see house democrats target atf's proposed rule on non-over-the-counter gun sales

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): house

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): judiciary committee democrats sent a letter to atf director robert cicada on july 31st urging rescission of a proposed rule that would permit non-over-the-counter remote firearm sales with background checks so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i know this you as an FFL, as a gun store owner as a gun range owner what would you feel about

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): people

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): being able to buy and just have it sent to them

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're muted, sorry

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): which one are we past, Colorado or Delaware

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): are now on House Democrats target ATF's proposed rule on non-over-the-counter gun sales

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fuck is that it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right below

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Delaware

Nick (reference, not reviewed): oh shit I was having a hard time too, I was like where the fuck are we

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sorry i was jumping around trying to decide what i actually wanted to talk about

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): could tell my bad

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't give a shit

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and that's the thing is i've actually heard of a bunch of other ffls they're like fighting against this because they think it's gonna affect them and

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm like oh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the 35 dollars i make on a transfer

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right fucking

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): dude

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm like i don't think it's gonna affect them at all

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): will say this if you do this and you don't support the local place that you like and they lose a lot of business and eventually go out of go out of business because because local places cannot compete with online sales um transfers is a big part of some smaller shops income um and you can say that's fucking retarded but that's the way that it is um not everybody gets to be lucky gunner or fucking you know

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you know guns.com um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): then

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they go out of business and you don't have that local place um it's your fault it's all of your faults it's everybody that stopped supporting that local Business. Personally, I don't give a shit because this would be like I stand to lose. Possibly. Let's see here.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): me do some math real quick. I stand to lose about fourteen hundred dollars a month. What do you do?

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): again, like, yeah, if people

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): are

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wrong, I'd like fourteen hundred dollars of free money.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Right. And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): honestly, like most of the people who are probably doing that probably wouldn't do this. like i think some people will i don't think all people will

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but yeah i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): want more freedom when possible and i want people to support river's edge tactical in valley city ohio and their local gun stores

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what i'm thinking is going to happen it would be on the person shipping the gun to then mail it out after they've done a background check

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right probably

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh there's that's how like um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): silencer

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): central does it there's a rule about like rural people where there's not a gun shop close but like there's no they basically like you like mail in a 4473 and then they just mail it to your door because there's an historic close enough like it's an old rule from where like hey the note the closest guns it's 1969 and the gca just passed but i live in rural wyoming and the closest gun shop is four hours away but i'd still like to purchase the gun

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then i used to just be able to order the thing through the fucking mail so then you could fill out a 4473 and mail it to a gun store and then they could just mail it to your house um it's i'm assuming it's a holdover from that it's that kind of mechanism

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): probably

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i'll

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): bet you a lot of shops won't do it like a lot of manufacturers like distributors aren't going to do that for you pure like guns.com will probably set up a feature like that but now they have to maintain all those 4473 records and i'll bet you a lot of places won't support that feature because it's part of a compliance that they're not used to you know guns.com doesn't do any 4473s

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right right it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all dealer transfers

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): all dealer transfers just a note in a logbook and out it goes they would have to they're going to have to revamp an entire system to do this

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then they're going to charge for it so the person is not going to be changing any money at all

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): well you'll get one that does it and then you'll get one that does it faster but it's like is there an electronic form that you can do or is it all got to be paper and then okay now it's gonna you gotta mail it or you gotta you can't fax it because that's not the fucking original it has to be a mailed hard copy with you know blue ink or black ink or whatever you know and that's like okay so it's going to take you an extra two fucking weeks to get your fucking gun other than just go and pick it up like i don't know what the logistics are but

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): see some growing pains oh yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100 percent yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i do too so i don't know i think uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we'll

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see where that goes i know that they're they're terrified of it they say it's going to increase straw purchases

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if they don't happen every single day

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guess what

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): criminals

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): are going to commit crime

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): does it make straw sales easier for retarded people sure if they can figure out the process um but like if you're not retarded pulling off a straw sale is not fucking hard like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): explained this to people multiple times it was like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't know if you know this but like the guys at my store want to be helpful we want to get you into the right gun so if you come in and act oblivious like you don't have a fucking clue you're like i want a nine millimeter for xyz we're gonna run you through the gamut of all your fucking options we're gonna like talk to you but if you walk in and say i want a glock 19 we're gonna say there's a glock 19 and they're gonna say okay i'll take it thank you and then out the door you go like i'm not gonna ask you any more questions you know what you want yeah so if you're fucking

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sending your the problem is most people try to pull off straw sales have the iq of a potato and um

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): long as you don't have the iq of a root vegetable um you you could pretty much pull off a a fucking

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): straw

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sale at any time

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): true

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): True.

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like I said, they're happening every single day.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Right.

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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): $150.

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Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bleeding control, airway,

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): respiration,

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and exposure. Everything you need for that for about $150. That's about the going rate for a trauma kit. And this is a fantastic one. And it is very compact. i think you'll really like it if you check it out but go over to flatlinefibercode.com use coupon code wls15 and that'll save you money when you do it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy it is time for reviews

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh j law says used to listen to double tap to get away from listening to savages completely retarded stumbling and bumbling shit spewing from his cock holster now recently he's been popping into double tap randomly and shitting all over my night if he's gonna shit on me like that he could at least have the common have the common damn courtesy to show up on time for the show. Love the show, guys. Fuck you, Savage. Goddamn. From J-Lo.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Have we made the comparisons to fast food chains yet? Jeremy would either be White Castle because white is the best color or five guys because he can take on five guys at once one way or another. Aaron would be whichever Jewish deli is closest and cheapest. Nick would be Topical Bell for the obvious aftermath.

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): savage

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would be wendy's since he's a bitch sean would be burger king for being the king guests would be arby's for being the mystery meat

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): pretty fucking funny actually and pretty accurate

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): review if i was a worm this is the best gun podcast in the universe it will indeed fuck you in the ear pussy the cast reminds me of a family dinner sean his grandpa just trying to keep things orderly and will take all night to tell you his hunting story jeremy is the uncle that hides and drinks all day so he doesn't have talked to the liberal family members even though he will get in a shouting match with someone during dinner nick is quite nick is the quiet nick is the quite one i think he meant quiet i think so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is the quite one that no one notices but he keeps tracks of everything no one likes aaron because

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): aaron

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): because keeps making poor life choices and is a disappointment to the family savage is the somehow seemingly normal one of the family either way this is a family dinner i like to sit in on

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's so

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): many grammatical errors in that one it fucking hurt my brain

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's how you said

Nick (reference, not reviewed): something nice about savage in a review and he wasn't here to hear it that is crazy

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah savage is somehow

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seemingly normal one of the family

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): jay law and jay low the same person

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seems suspicious it does seem suspicious

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): should we tell

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): everybody why Savage isn't here

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): actually I meant to yeah died oh I

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't know that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I was hoping

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah no he's evacuated from the fire in Washington yeah

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it was

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like two miles from his house and they made him leave

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): his house is fine

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just uh they're stealing all of his turbine intelligence so

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my favorite

Nick (reference, not reviewed): part

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was

Nick (reference, not reviewed): when he was like look at how close it is guys and i was like damn are you getting evacuated and he was like no it's still like three miles away

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): five

Nick (reference, not reviewed): minutes later

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and

Nick (reference, not reviewed): then 30 minutes later he's like so we're evacuating

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he sends us the picture of the fire he's like it's pretty far away still and i'm like i can literally see individual flames in this video

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but yeah he's okay it's not far away at all

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay the government's just stealing his turbine technology

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hey

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): was my

Nick (reference, not reviewed): joke

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know it was a good one that's why i stole it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Nick (reference, not reviewed): the government's stealing his uh turbine technology just like you stole my fucking

Nick (reference, not reviewed): joke

Nick (reference, not reviewed): again i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't steal it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't steal it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just what it's god what's the word i'm looking for i uh requisitioned it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you

Nick (reference, not reviewed): appropriated

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): appropriated your joke

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): isn't

Nick (reference, not reviewed): that just like a colonizer

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also white

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): who wins

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh

Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the guy that said fuck you savage

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): j

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): law email automated at we like shooting.com and crystal will get your winnings and for the rest of you text your name and review to 743-500-2171 that's 743-500-2171 that's where you can do it and guys that's gonna do it for this episode of we like shooting join gun owners of America, gunowners.org. And support a badass gun rights org that is out there doing good work every single day. If you would like to support the show, if you value what we do, you

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can join us at agency171.com and be a part of it. Suicide Prevention Line is 988. You can dial or text that from your phone. And I highly want you to use it if you need it. We need all the good people here to fight the good fight with us

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): against us, whatever. i don't care just be out be here to fight with just be here to fight at 2 p.m on monday the 13th

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes uh

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): last but not least always prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery nick loves you we'll see you soon goodbye good night and good riddance to nick

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't know i didn't see it

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): and and you said that savage is okay right yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fine okay

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i i was like maybe i missed it but maybe we should mention that uh yeah savage savage is fine

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't see the question

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): haven't stopped recording yet fyi because i was looking for the question

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can

Nick (reference, not reviewed): you please repeat the question travis one

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we'll stay alive

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we'll

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): listen to the song while you while you type up i

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did scroll up was

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he at in and out oh savage oh no he asked about Mintworks

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going up Let

Nick (reference, not reviewed): me scroll all the way up here

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): God

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): damn how far Can't just fucking type the question in Oh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I found it Have you seen

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Mintworks products Yes I have seen their stuff

Nick (reference, not reviewed): Does Busbilt have Does

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Busbilt

Nick (reference, not reviewed): have what

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have a mount for the zero on Archimounts 2 Does Budbilt have an ability to mount the zero to the arc amount too

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh

Nick (reference, not reviewed): i can't see that

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): two messages

Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): am working on a on a mount

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i

Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't have a zero

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a

Nick (reference, not reviewed): garmin zero right now

Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um but

Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i have a i have a mount in progress

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): minnesota gun guy jesus go jerk off already well on that note this

Shawn (reference, not reviewed): podcast has been a production of the firearms radio network for more visit firearms radio.net