Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Keep listening for a discount.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't need to be a medical professional to save a life. Civilian Medical One teaches bleeding control, airway care, and other critical trauma skills online. Start training at civmedical.com. That's C-I-V-medical dot com. Use code FRN
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for a discount. This
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): episode of We Like Shooting is brought to you by Foxtrot, Mike, C&G, Holsters, Midwest Industries, Blue, halfa night fishing ross martin and otis technology
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): aaron and jeremy to savage and nick bringing it to you talking guns and having fun we like shooting we're out of control welcome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we like shooting episode 673 we're so happy to be here with you tonight so happy to be talking into the void so happy to be alive so happy to be here with our friends our good friends uh the loves of our lives uh no homo but we're here the four of us the guys the gang first up i wanted to introduce you to my friend he's a very tiny man and nick wants to wear him as a keychain his name is savage 1r and he's here to really talk
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about the news and things like that and i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a lot of new listeners all the time so i just want to introduce everybody in a way that you can understand so savage uh say something real quick so they can know which one you are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the guy with the mask on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's that no one cared till he put the mask on and then nobody still cared uh next up is my bestie
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the testes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick lunch uh he runs a website called bus built systems and he makes a lot of really cool products but he also has a lot of really based and uh awful shirts that are guaranteed to get you punched at the six flags
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that is a guarantee that nick will honor always and forever
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): next
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): up we have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): besties the molesty uh his name is jeremy posderick he has a gun range in a gun store in valley city ohio it's called river's edge tactical you can go there you can rent machine guns you can buy guns you can shoot guns in the range and you can just hang out and be belittled uh by the by the the coffee machine you can do all those things and more and i really suggest that you go there it's a really fun place and a really cool place and it's in a part of ohio that geographically i'm unfamiliar with but it is the best part of
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ohio that i've ever been to so go visit the range and rent all the machine guns buy all the ammo and uh help jeremy retire a young man i think that's what we're all going for here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if i could just pay off the range
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you'd
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): be fucking shitting in high cotton if
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you know in high
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): cotton that'd be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my name dear friends is sean herron uh i am here i am unemployable thanks to this this venture that we've done here uh i worked in the tech industry for a long time and uh i can now no longer work in the tech industry i will i will guarantee you that right now so you know i'm here you can find out all the stuff about me and all my projects at dangfree.com uh but yeah like we're here we are here to tickle your ear if you will and talk about guns and talk about friendship and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): talk about uh you know male bonding and talk about surviving and talk about politics and all the above i don't know why i did that sometimes i just get off on a tangent that's the tangent how are you guys doing tonight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well where where'd nick go
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): had a meeting that he had to get to but he'll be back in a moment
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i i bought i had a dentist appointment today
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): worst yeah then on the way home i stopped by tractors applied by fencing to put up a fence because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do shit like that all the time for the goats for the sheep actually i'm gonna get i'm gonna get sheep at the range right at the range and so i can get an agricultural exemption on property tax for
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah so in in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): past years when i've had ca uv it cuts property taxes down to about a third of what they were so my property taxes right now are like 22 000 for the year
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): even if it goes down to like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would like it to go down to like 9 000 that'd be cool uh but if it doesn't which is fine um even if it went down to something like 16 000 that'd be fucking tits
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they they changed the way that they do the scale so i don't know how much it'll affect it but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know here's the praying
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your belch sounds
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): are awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): your belch sounds are awesome that one actually
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sound like like rick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one actually sounded like it caught you by surprise and punched you in the gut because you were like, yeah, here's.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so I stopped by Tractor Supply and I was like, you know, I was looking in the yard for what I wanted and I couldn't find the one that I wanted.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And so I go inside and they have like a little computer and you can like search online and you can go to the store that you're at and look to see if it's in inventory.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And I'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): up there all the time. So they all know me. They have like a new assistant manager who said it was his sixth day there. Oh, shit. And he goes, what are you looking for? And I said this right here. And he punched the number in, and he went out and looked, and he couldn't find it. And I went out with him, and I looked. And eventually, I saw a bunch of rolls stacked up.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): weren't standing vertically. They were laying down stacked up into a triangle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): metal
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): frame. And I looked on the bottom, and there's three rolls that they said they had in stock on the bottom. So I move everything over, and I stand them all up, and I rip one of the tags off, and I go inside. And I'm like, hey, I found it. You're good to go. and the guy goes so what size vest do you want i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): manager keeps trying to hire me and i told her she can't afford me and um so he goes you need to help load out and i said i just need you to open up the gate so i can back the truck up in there and he's like all right so he goes out there and i pay and i back the truck up and him and he's like a i don't know mid 50s kind of out of shape guy seemed nice enough but you know didn't seem like real not a real big guy and then like some scrawny little teenager and uh and they're like standing
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): there and the guys like they're moving them and they're like oh how do you move these things and i was like easy and i just squatted down and picked one up on my shoulder and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): walked over
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to my truck and threw it in the back of the truck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the guy was like what the shit i'm like those are really heavy it's 330 feet of four foot tall uh woven wire fencing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): god
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): damn dude
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he was just he's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just like what the fuck i was like yeah they're heavy but you know you just gotta get under them seriously
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah bro like for people who don't know jeremy's six seven and has the wingspan of a 737
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh 80 83 inch wingspan
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just just for the record i'm 60 inches tall
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): wait i'm 72 inches tall
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wingspan should be your height fingertip to fingertip across the back should be your height that's that's uh what the the leonardo da vinci of the guy with his
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): arms out
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): in the circle and it's like his height and it's his arm with like so technically your your wingspan which is fingertip to fingertip across the back should be relatively close to your height if it's exactly your height then you have a perfectly normal wingspan if it's a little shorter you have a shorter wingspan uh my wingspan is actually four inches longer than my height
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're part gorilla
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so i'm 79 inches tall but i have an 83 inch wingspan which really helped with boxing um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i can imagine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what is the da vinci it's uh vitruvian
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): vitruvian man
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the dude in the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): circle
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): right vitruvian vitruvian i believe v-e-t-r-u
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): -v-i-v
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): -i-t-r-u
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): -v-i-a-n yeah savage
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did you lift anything heavy today
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my gut you little bitch
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's get into it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): up first i would like to talk about our friends over at foxtrot mike foxtrot mike makes a lot of different uh ar and ar pattern stuff all over the place this right here that i'm holding in my hands oh weird we have such a weird view going on right now let's look at this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hey you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sometimes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i just get angry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is the foxtrot mic isu 9 this is an integrally suppressed upper that is coming out very very soon uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): looks like the beginning of august is going to be when it goes you know so you know when you're bringing a new product to production and this is a new product this is a new operating system that hasn't been seen before uh it is again integrally suppressed and if you don't know what that means that means that the barrel is basically the suppressor so it comes as an upper it is a it is a an nfa item but since we don't pay the tax anymore you don't pay anything extra and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): entire completed upper with suppressor and everything is going to be right around 500 bucks so coming out within the next week so if you uh if you're a believer in all the good things i think you would be very interested in this again nine millimeter isu nine God bless you. Coming out very soon. think this is a 10-inch.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): See,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the barrel inside goes all the way down to the end,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then the suppressor basically wraps around it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm very excited. These things are really cool. Nick, have you shot yours recently?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yes.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Still kicking butt?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yes. Nice. That's pretty cool. Hell yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy, you shot yours recently since you got it back?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i have been
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i was on vacation for a week oh yeah i had like two family reunions and like i haven't been at work like i probably should have been in the last like two weeks it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nice that you don't have to know i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): haven't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah it is i was trying to explain to a kid that worked for me um the difference between earning a living and making money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like i was you have to figure out a way to make money right now you earn every dollar you make
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like you have to be here put in the hours do shit i go on vacation and i still make money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was like that takes a lot of work to get to that point but if you can figure out how to make money and not earn it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can have a you can have a pretty good system going he was like fuck that makes a lot of sense
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it makes all the sense
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it was just like yeah you figure out a way especially and that goes for anybody i'm not saying like i'm lucky or special or i came up with that but like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): goes for anybody figure out a way to figure out a way to make money not earn it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the key it's like it's you know the grail that we all that we all seek after is is to be able to do that that's literally why nick has bus bill and savage like invents crazy shit and i have 47 different things that i work on every day and jeremy's got the range that he's been building and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know building that customer base and building that business to the point where you can take a week off like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's fucking oh we just had
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): our eight we just had eight years by the way
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no shit
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): july 21st was eight years i've totally forgot about it huh actually um i looked at my watch it was like the 24th and somebody was like how long you guys been open i'm like seven and a half oh shit eight years
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): tomorrow is actually one week plus uh our eight-year anniversary uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): didn't do anything because i forgot about i didn't even make a facebook post america totally fucking forgot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that is the life of a small business owner right there you're so fucking busy living your life and fucking actually like taking care of everything needs to be taken care of some of that shit just gets by sometimes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): usually
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): somebody tells me i'm like oh yeah thank you thanks for that i should put a reminder in my phone but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): speaking speaking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of earning a living you know that's one of the things that paul from the the owner of foxtrot mike is very focused on is making sure that all of us that are out there just like earning a living working every day working for every dollar that we make uh that we can afford to have guns that are reliable to have guns that are cool and that's that's what foxtrot mike makes they make guns for the everyday dude now if you're rich as fuck like you will also love them that's not a problem but paul wants to make it to where you can afford the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guns to where you know when a new isu 9 comes out that you can literally afford it because again it's like a new operating system that hasn't hasn't been seen they they created it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): if you're interested in supporting a company like that supporting products like that go check them out at fm-products.com coupon code wls is life saves you money if there's an item on sale that code won't work but wls is life sale item will work uh so go check them out again fm-products.com guns for the every man and uh yeah guns for you too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guys let's go ahead get into the show this is the part of the podcast where we talk about the stuff we have the stuff that we want and the stuff that we need
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay i was just looking over at the chat looks like lenny said how long have i been listening to you heifers well i think the podcast started in 2013
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man yeah yeah like right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): after i opened
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i mean i remember jeremy having his old old store and i went there and i remember when jeremy's ranged open like it was yesterday because it fucking feels like yesterday
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah a long time a lot of you guys have been listening a long time and welcome to all the new listeners we appreciate y'all very much um i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): firearms radio network is like a labor of love this is not a thing that makes me money it is a thing that i do to support our community and And honestly, just because I'm very sentimental. Firearms Radio Network has never made me a dime, really. And honestly, We Like Shooting has supported
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Firearms Radio Network financially pretty much the entire time that I've owned it. But I was recently putting some stats in because I just upgraded the entire infrastructure to where I own and control everything now. we're not using the third-party services that we used to and they were really expensive like about $6,500 a year and I just replaced all that with our own custom system and because I put in that custom
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): system I can now actually have good statistics for the shows of like downloads and what devices and what states and what you know like where all the downloads come from like really really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): awesome
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): statistics
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and i was looking at the the we like shooting statistics and it was kind of like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jaw
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): -dropping
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to see
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): amount of downloads we've had like over the years and yeah it's i don't remember where where i was going with that story but i promise it wasn't just a humble brag i actually had a purpose to that but i circled the plane so long i forgot how to land anyway
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what was i talking about guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't know you're you started out with we've been here for a while and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh yeah that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it just to see like the downloads over the years uh has been has been pretty cool so thank you all for listening we really appreciate all of you guys being here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this is gear chat i wanted to talk about a thing that i just got in mostly because i know it's just going to make nick upset and i mean really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): why
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): else wouldn't i so this is a this is a gun this is called the acos arms baza this is a 45 acp bolt action pistol
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): immediately want it send it to me shut the fuck up
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 45 acp is generally a subsonic subsonic caliber um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is a short little
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know that looks like a 10 inch barrel if i had to guess and this isn't actually something that i was pursuing um i helped him with some supply issues and he sent one i guess as thank you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 45 acp and a little pistol form factor obviously it's bolt action uh has a pick rail on the back of it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): threaded barrel excuse me i apologize
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): charging handle obviously since it's bolt action and nick and i shot this at gun con
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nobody panic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it was surprisingly cool and very quiet so what i plan to do is put the bowers group asp 45 on this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the wet can correct
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i plan to put that one on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a nice uh big 45 acp or 45 can
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this thing should be just absolutely movie quiet
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): thing needs a verse 44 58 or verse 45 on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also have those
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i was just or dread not i was just thinking the wet can because you know this this is very much a let's get it as quiet as possible and the the wet can with the ablative in it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah you're you're for yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): five five i'd
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like to see the first shot out of the asp versus uh verse 458 45 dreadnought oh because those are big fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cans
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the dude the the dreadnought would double the weight of this thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the dreadnought weight dreadnought's light
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is it would double the length of it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it is not
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what i would call light like it's not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): enormous that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): can is in that barrel this is light this is light
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but yeah like i just think with the ablative in a wet can it'll be really really quiet i don't know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i want one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i got this in now we've talked about it before but i really truly think like um one of the big problems with this is is honestly price so it's a 45 acp ar style bolt action pistol and it goes for about 1800 bucks
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was talking to them at gun con and i was i'm not gonna i'm not gonna
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not gonna say what they told me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah for
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what their pricing structure was um i don't think that's my
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what they've decided they want their pricing structure to structure to be um and but they told me what like their cost was and and you know yada yada yada and Um, I feel like they're, they don't plan on selling. It's a weird thing. Cause we were like, I was like, you know, is it like, cause if it's a production thing where you just can't make very many of them, then you kind of have to get your nut per
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): per
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): item.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean, um, but if you can crank out enough of them, but you can drop that price and you can sell, okay, you got to sell, you know, uh, you got to sell five of them to make the same profit. as you would on one of them but you're going to sell 30 of them versus two of them because the price drop it's a benefit i'm like it's kind of you know we were talking about just stuff like that because even they said they're like this is our first like real foray into the gun world like they i think it's just a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): machine shop and this was like a pet project
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but me you and me both agree when we were standing there talking to him like you have something here i don't and we were i don't know what the use case is like over something else but it's fucking cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is it's just fucking cool and it's smooth and it's it's yeah it's just fucking cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i you know i'd say like 1200
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i could see but like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's where i told them
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that's where i told them to put it about about there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see there's us
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doing that bullshit again right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that that's about where i told them and i kind of explained how it might work uh how it might work for them if they if they did that um but you know if they can't if they you know they're like they're like accuracy international it's like three guys in a shed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and they're nice dudes too like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they are they were great dudes yeah like i'm not besmirching them at all they were super nice i mean the guy the guy was like i really wanted he goes we just got the guy looked at me and he's like i really want to pick your brain about this because this is like our first foray into guns and like a lot of the people here know more about they're the manufacturers but like the actual industry they're like we we were they were kind of clueless yeah so they were really like please please talk to us um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and it was just one of those things where like i couldn't come up with like you know a use case where this thing is like the end-all be-all for this certain use um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's just fucking cool and it's well made
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fact that they got that straight pull that fucking smooth um and just the fact that it's like uber quiet with you know just fantastic suppression that lightweight that smooth it's you could just tell it's really well made um and it's it's cooler and shit but um it's just not going to be everybody like what am i going to do with this yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): then then it's like you know for 1800 bucks and then they put an a2 grip on it it's stuff like that that i just don't understand i'm like there's so many better options so many better options for this style of gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i get it it costs four dollars
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): agree that they could go with a different grip however
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't mind the a2 because what a lot of people are going to do no matter what you put on it is change it out to whatever they prefer
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and honestly mitchell defense did that with the a2 bird cages
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): he's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like they're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just going to change it for put a suppressor on or whatever they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): actually
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): want
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): first
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): off fuck you the a2 bird cage is the best flash hider on the market
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100 is but no no one likes them everyone switches them even though they're really really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): effective they're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): so effective at what they're made at
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so i am very excited
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you besmirch the a2
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i like i didn't i was just saying they're very inexpensive and that's probably the same thing i agree nick is you could just switch it out with whatever you want
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you know um i think it is a very cool gun and i'm sure that i will find a good use for it i might sbr it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i have the samson um that stock that goes on a pick rail and i've actually been wanting to put that on something for quite a while and this is kind of a really good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thing for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it you shouldn't do
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't think so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because it'll be a lot harder for me to steal it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm definitely gonna sbr it then
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got a tax stamp on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gonna to fucking fill out the paperwork right now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tag
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): stamp i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): forward to in this bitch
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna form to it right now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anyway yeah i got that in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): stoked about it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): almost
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): forgot about it to be honest
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to put it in the show notes that is but here it is so that's acos arms acos arms a k o s arms um is the name of that And yeah, it fits Glock. Glock 45 mags. Glock 45 caliber mags as well.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think it'd be cool.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know we briefly mentioned it, but Kel-Tec
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): their,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know, I genuinely, I don't know what's going on over there, but they have released a new Sub-2K.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): released a sub 2k
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's very very tiny they had a video that was actually a pretty amazingly done video and i don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know it was really well done it was pretty cool it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was it was very very well done so savage i mean this is definitely something that you probably
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cream
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): over
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like the small form factor and it's it's just basically a chopped down sub 2k
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is fine but it comes with like the issues of the sub 2k and i just if it should have had a folding stock not a folding nub
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean it's okay like i'm not gonna say it's great or anything it's it's interesting it's not my i mean i love i love kill tech it's just not my thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it is not my thing either i without question do not like this thing i i don't want this thing i don't nick what are your thoughts on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not a big fan of the sub 2000s i think when it came out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): wasn't any
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing
Nick (reference, not reviewed): really like that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): now we have such better options
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): The
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of appealing thing is that I've seen a lot of people compare it to the subgun from
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Halo. Yeah. And
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's kind of cool. But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that this is more appealing than the normal sub 2000.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Really?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm still not really into it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): honestly
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like the sub 2000 that much.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, I hate it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): And this looks like dog shit. oh yeah it's ugly but i mean so is the normal sub 2000
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but if you put a suppressor on that thing like that's what it's for you put a suppressor on that thing it's the same length as the standard one you get the fucking it's still a six and a half inch barrel which is like you're gonna get normal velocities out of a handgun like it's it's you know it's just a it's like the mark for with the little chopped down barrel that nick has
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): oh yeah or that masterpiece defender masterpiece arms defender that i have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like the defender despite all its flaws doesn't look like it was designed by a retarded monkey
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this thing is awful looking like i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fact that this is like yep this is what we're going to market with just like blows me away
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): maybe
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): aesthetics are not important you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have to look beyond books though
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): fuck that i don't care if it has a good personality it looks like dog shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): looks like a goddamn elbow
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know what i mean yeah i uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i said i just don't like the sub 2000 that much um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of the things the sub 2000 has a really heavy recoil spring and now that they've made this shorter i wonder if the recoil spring is even heavier
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): probably probably
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that or what they actually what they probably did is they increased the diameter of the tube
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in order
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to increase the mass of the bolt
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): probably
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah because the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): tube is like enormous
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): looks it is a bigger tube boy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah so i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's what they did
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): has a fucking brace on it that looks like it was designed by caltech and that is an insult
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i just
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't get it i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): want to give them this the video was funny and well done like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i just you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have to give that to them
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the video was like the quality was just goddamn amazing my favorite part is when one of the dude grabs it and his fingers like literally in front of the muzzle like up against the muzzle i'm like oh god this thing's gonna shoot off so many fingers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not 500 magnum and a hot dog 500 magnum
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): best one was when he was getting ready to put up the shoulder and the guy's like oh i remember it's a pistol
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that got that fucking got me
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to be honest. I didn't actually watch the video. I just saw clips of it playing.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my God. It was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): my
Nick (reference, not reviewed): favorite comparison of this was the full size sub 2000 and then a picture of a raccoon
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then this thing. And then that short
Nick (reference, not reviewed): raccoon.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That's what they need to rename this motherfucking thing. Jim.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): honestly wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Dude, mean, that'd be better than if the drink your own piss one.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh caltech
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see okay well um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just looking to see if anyone else put anything in here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no just me okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then i'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): gonna talk about me
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i guess
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there it is i see it nick talk about your gear chat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): on the topic of people coming out with short barreled things uh auto ordinance had a pistol version of the uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one carbine and now they're selling it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the correct way which is as an sbr
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is fucking awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude this is so um it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what a 12 inch barrel it is of course threaded for a suppressor
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and other than that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): more or less a normal m1 carbine it's got some imloc slots at uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): six
Nick (reference, not reviewed): o'clock on the underside of the the forend it's got a nice gi style woodstock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't remember what the price point was but it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): way
Nick (reference, not reviewed): too much for me to be interested in it it was like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 1800
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn um but looks
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like a lot of fun i really really love m1 carbines they're a ton of fun to shoot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pretty good time and uh suppressed short barreled m1 carving sounds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a whole lot of fun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): agree
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh yeah this thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): thing's pretty rad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is it's pretty fun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 1800
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bucks would you rather have this or the acosh arms baza
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): definitely definitely the baza
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): well there you go
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): pretty cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know uh thompson slash auto ordinance they do have a lot of stuff that i would like to get it's just never high on the priority list
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really want a tommy gun honestly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): until i shoot one and then i'm like oh i really don't want a tommy gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i have a tommy gun it's great
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know you do yeah they're awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know earl
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): harbinger carries a tommy gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): he
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): does he does
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): even
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): more reason to get a tommy gun if
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you will
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just need a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just need a leather jacket made out of bull man hide
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): easy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no problem got it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let's see oh okay so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're watching this on youtube i mean you're probably not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no there's still quite a bit of traffic there. don't, I don't get it,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we were getting dinged constantly on fucking YouTube. Like it was almost an everyday thing. We would get an email. Your content has been demonetized. Your content has been taken down. You've received a community guidelines strike. You've received a community guidelines, violation warning almost every single day. And, uh, finally I was like, okay, like we're going to lose our fifth YouTube channel.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): need to do something about it so i uh created something called that i call the strike striker and basically after every episode of wls uh krista grabs the video version and uploads it to a folder that goes to my computer and gets processed and it goes through the transcript and it removes it downloads youtube's community guidelines and then it goes through the transcript and removes anything that would be a violation of community guidelines like urls uh any
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): by language like go get this here for this this price does all of that and then on top of that because i screen share a lot i created a chrome extension that i call censor me harder daddy and anytime i show a website on the screen it censors any prices links by language anything like that so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): which kind of sucks But
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have to say, it seems to be working. It has been 13 days,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is about four episodes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we have not gotten a warning, a takedown, a demonetization, a community guideline violation, an age-restricted video, like not one of them for 13 days, which is. I think the record
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh, seems to be working. So thanks a lot. YouTube real fucking cool, real fucking cool job infringing on our, on our constitutional rights
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): having us have to work around it to meet your ever moving, uh, target. Fuck you. By the way,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Colorado lowers their fur bearer bag limits for bobcats, foxes, raccoons. I think like 14 other,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me find this new story. Cause I had to bring it up cause they, they have a restriction so you can't see it so i had to remove the stupid paywall
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): colorado just like going down the fucking going down the tubes pretty much every day here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah gotta
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): remove the paywall i apologize i thought i had had it up but i must have closed it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): by
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the way if you ever go to a website and it's like oh you can't read the article unless you subscribe or sign up or whatever just go to remove paywall.com and there's a couple different options that will remove the paywall for you that's what i'm using so for 17 furbearer species we generally for furbearer permits we would be unlimited for a lot of them but colorado parks and wildlife had a meeting and the 11 member commission after
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): six hours of debate and public comment voted six to five to reduce the daily bag limit of 17 different furbearer species from unlimited with a small game license with the furbearer attachment to two a day and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know it's just a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of genius when you think about it all these anti-gun anti-hunting liberal fuckheads you know they get positions on parks and wildlife so they can do literal literal things like this it's just absolutely bonkers that this is a thing that's happening in colorado colorado used to be the old west and now it's like now it's california or new york or illinois or and worse in in a lot of ways um this affects obviously a lot of trappers um so like now
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we used to be able to go out and hunt coyotes and coyotes are not endangered by any means they're fucking they're plague on on our state and now per person per day we are limited to two instead of unlimited as we were before
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't even think we need a hunting license to shoot coyotes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): of
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's not
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): needed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): usually
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you need anything here either
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ohio it was groundhogs coyotes and wild pigs and you could hunt them year-round no bag limits like i don't even think you needed a hunting license for all three of them um i had a game warden tell me one time he goes if you're in a tree stand and you see a pig run by you and you don't shoot it i'm gonna find a reason to write you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): up they're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like kill those motherfuckers right but they just changed the pig hunting rule in ohio because dudes were starting to import hogs and release them so they could like run like a game thing so they're trying to curb people trying to like set up a you know a hog hunting business by literally releasing wild hogs
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like so now i don't know what to do with all these fucking hogs
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no no fuck that no i paid good money for the motherfuckers i'm gonna eat them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): also if anybody wants to buy a pig
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so anyway colorado liberals uh finding new ways to fuck over lawful colorado gun owners and hunters and you know i saw a thing that actually really upset me so the colorado parks and wildlife sold 20 000 furbearer permits last year with 85 percent of permit holders not harvesting an animal well the the way that they find out that you harvest an animal is this into a fucking survey every year that's like hey how many animals did you take
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i promptly fucking delete because mind your own goddamn business so it's not that people don't do it it's that we're not answering your stupid fucking survey you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't have to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you don't have to like tag them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): only have we have to do that with deer and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they're nuisance animals
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that coyotes oh i'm not talking about coyotes i'm talking about like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): anything else in general like uh like when we shoot a deer you have to like call odnr with your deer tag
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): information
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and be like hey i you know you got to write the information out on the tag you used to have to go to a deer check station
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then you'd show up with it in the bed of your truck with your tag on it and then they give you a permanent tag which usually it was like a so like a lot of the local gun stores and uh fishing hunt Renting stores around here would be deer check stations.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): And it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was kind of, I always thought it was kind of fun because you'd have guys like just hanging out there because they just wanted to see what people were bringing by. Like, you're like, oh man, somebody shows up with like a 14 point. You're like, oh, it's a fucking hell. That's a bruiser. You know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): was, and now they're just like, call it in. You just call a number when you shoot a deal with the tag on it. yeah and uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you don't there's no more deer check stations but you'd get like a um they would put a uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): metal band with the number on it yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): around the antler so it like this is a legal deer yeah um they don't do that anymore
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): last three i shot it was a homeowner's tag so i didn't even have a hunting license or a deer tag i shot them on my own property and just call them hey i'm a homeowner shout a deer crazy so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): listen to this uh one last quote from this fucking article from a colorado state university associate professor in the human dimensions of natural resources department and on the leader leadership team of the university center for human carnivore coexistence aka fucking faggot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is a values-based question how do we want to use these animals and for whom it's also important to note that every time they take a bobcat that reduces an opportunity for someone to view that animal
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): keep talking about there's no biological reason to have low bag limits but i also think there's no biological reason to have high bag limits
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what uh what what does this guy sound like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): who
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): allowed that person to speak in the first
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): place jesus
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): christ dude like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hope
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you get run over
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sick of these people uh anyway uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): plug it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): one of those it's one of those things where it's like you know we've we've killed the natural predators of a lot of these animals and you know we've we've chased away the really because like it my you know i got young kids they're like dad what if dinosaurs are still alive i'm like if dinosaurs still existed we'd kill them because they're not compatible with human life 100 they're just not you cannot live like if grizzly if there was a chance that like if you knew 100 that every time you walked out your front door
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you were going to be hunted by by a velociraptor we just kill the fucking things right which is what we did
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): with wolves bears
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh cougars we just panthers pumas fucking anything that could kill us we generally eradicate right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah i mean hold on there's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some good cougars out there hold on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): him
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): cook let let him
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): cook wrong
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): four-legged cougar four-legged big kitty kitty kitty kitty
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you talking about like a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): cougar in doggy style on
Nick (reference, not reviewed): all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fours it's called doggy style look
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um but like generally speaking we we eradicate them i mean there were mountain lions as far east as the appalachian you know the appalachian mountains and they're pretty much in pockets out west in some very small areas um the um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): florida panthers you know they're because fuck those things right yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): everybody oh the big fucking kid till they eat your kid right because they will actively hunt your ass
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): same
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): with you know grizzly yes there are some places where people live in areas where you know fucking grizzly bears are like right fucking there but that is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): where those bears used to live we fucking killed all of them because fuck you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): we live here now bitch if you're gonna watch t-rexes roam the earth we'd fucking eradicate them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking sport
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): even for sport just for survival they if bear if if cave bears you know short short nose cave bears ones that roamed America fucking 12,000 years ago and they were like 17 feet tall on their hind legs and weighed like 3,500 pounds and they would eat like they'd fucking hunt mastodons and shit like it's a big fuck no and you know what happened to them we killed them with fucking sticks we eradicated them
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): with fucking sticks and pointy rocks because they were not allowed to live because we were here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): agreed yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): these
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and but the problem is so we kill all the the apex predators right so all the littler shit that those things would actively hunt like bobcats and stuff
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if you don't keep if we don't keep them in in check who the fuck is going to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): coyotes
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no longer have to you. Fight with wolves for, for food. So they just proliferate. I mean, we have coyotes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in Ohio. No problem. Just,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just bring the wolves back and then they'll take care of the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): coyotes. Yeah. No, we did that.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): We did that. All they're doing is killing livestock.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Yeah. Coyotes. turns out cows are a lot easier to kill than, uh, than fucking elk.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): weird,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like coyotes aren't native to the Eastern part of America. Coyotes aren't native east of the mississippi they're not they've spread this far they're just they're clever they're nimble they're highly adaptable they live in the inner cities which people it's crazy to think of that coyotes live in downtown cleveland but they do
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100 there's coyotes here every
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): day there's coyotes in denver there's coyotes in colorado springs like it's fucking crazy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): oh we got like they've moved
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this far east because we killed everything else that would fucking keep them contained where they fucking live
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yep
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): um all right that'll do it for that i just had to plow guy dave sent me that i saw it again on pure report today and i was like i'm gonna mention that shit fucking losers so cng arms is our holster sponsor and uh they make a lot of good holsters i actually noticed that they had um some m0 the finish m05 camo a holster done in that and i thought it looked pretty good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this is the trinity holster in m05 so this is kind of like a more competition so it has a really low cut so when you draw you can pull the gun and push forward quickly uh this is an outside the belt the waist belt and this is for a springfield echelon so if you're looking for a holster of any kind whether it's concealed carry appendix carry side carry outside the waistband whatever whatever you need go check out cngholsters.com and use coupon code wls is life and that'll save you money on that so go check them out see what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see if they have what you need and uh yeah thank them for supporting your favorite gun podcast which brings me to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of your favorite segments in your favorite gun podcast and this is the time
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hold on i'm not ready
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is the time on sprockets when we dance
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think is what i meant to say hold on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we go uh it's time for gunfights
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): time for gunfights
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah nicodemus
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what what what'd
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you say
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): knew it was coming nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what gunfights what's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know jesus
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a segment that you do savage
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): getting
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all exasperated as if he's not the source of all this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wait a minute i am not the source of all this what what are you talking about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nothing my
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): mistake
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right i've got my remote control up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ready
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to rock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys know that sean plays gun fights on his phone
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): here
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it is look at it he's told us
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hold
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on a kid's health that's the cat or one of my kids at the door
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): big's your cat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's my wife's cat it's very fluffy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i've seen that cat bomber
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's bobcat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): named after the uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): named after the the fat dwarf from the hobbit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i thought it was named after bomb towers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no no it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bomber uh biffer and bomber
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oing
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gloin
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): biffer
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bomber
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): used to know them all i don't remember now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the cat's name is bomber
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know that's what i just spent five minutes talking about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it was the cat by the way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right here's our first gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): playing on his phone in case anybody was curious guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): got my remote control on my phone
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is this is the first gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it is pretty neat
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): made the text bigger by the way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a springfield 1884 oh is that because your old eyes couldn't see it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): everyone complained
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about it last week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh by
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the way did you when when sean held his phone up did you guys see how big the text was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i made it bigger on that screen not this screen
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know i'm talking about i'm talking about your screen though
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): no i'm just using my phone as a remote
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of my one of my favorite things that's happened in the last
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't 20 years was Sean was showing us something on his phone at GunCon and was it Dave?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Somebody,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): somebody was sitting there. Shawn pulls his phone out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he's like, how fucking old are you? Shawn's like, what? And he's like, look at the fucking text on your phone. My text on my
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): phone
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is not big.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): make
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it smaller again? No.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): It's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): always been. You
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what? Fuck you, Dave. I know you're hearing this. And if it was you, fuck you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right this is a uh springfield 1884 trap door in 45 70
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): comes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with a bayonet a sling and an ammo pouch
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's pretty sweet
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): did have uh some different photos for this but first it was unhappy about them i guess
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so this is a a hinged
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): breech
Nick (reference, not reviewed): block trap door
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so you know it's got the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): trap door that swings up and you drop a single round in there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says it's in good shape
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's got a full-length walnut stock
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shiny
Nick (reference, not reviewed): bore
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): everything
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is uh in good condition um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): comes with a rock island arsenal leather sling marked ehs
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): u.s stamped leather ammo pouch that holds 20 rounds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then of course the aforementioned bayonet
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): has
Nick (reference, not reviewed): had 42 bids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's pretty rad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is pretty cool like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know. Were these in high demand? I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know. Seems odd to me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean, it looks like a pretty good combination kit, and it's in great condition.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It is. It
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is. Plus, it's in an awesome caliber. So,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'd say that demands a certain
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): price.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm going to change my bid. Okay, changed.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): All right.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): currently waiting on Savage.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): goddammit. I've been in for like 30 minutes.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right time stamp
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): were
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you in jeremy i did totally didn't notice
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sean says 1642 savage says 2500 and guns in 4570
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says a thousand and cmp guns
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): all those guesses are wrong
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 1815 dollars
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that sean was the closest
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it i was completely banking on those not being super popular
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): my original bid was 1442 and I was like, ah, fucking that's a lot of bids.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I upped it. So Sean was $173 off. Wow.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): You know what's crazy? Who bid $2,000?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Savage said $2,500.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): $2,500. Okay.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Very interesting. You know, Savage may have been closer if I got with my original bid. No, I guess not.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No, no, no. You still wouldn't win.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): congratulations to
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): here's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): next
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): fronky spaz 15
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what yeah so these are a much like the spaz 12 it's a semi-auto shotgun with the option to manually pump it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pump
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it real good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dang only 180
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of these were imported before they were banned for import wow
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it says it's like new
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh comes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): with the factory box and i guess the sling that was included with it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): comes the six round magazine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the manual
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says it's unfired beyond testing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): every
Nick (reference, not reviewed): part remains original and tight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh yeah i think these are pretty cool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dude i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): didn't even know this actually existed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and they're died but i want it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean it looks fucking awesome and having a semi-auto that's a pump i mean it's probably
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the same kind of reliability issues as the other one but damn it's cool looking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and if you see if you see photos of dudes like actually carrying these with them like slung and stuff. It's a big big gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah, these are, these are pretty sweet.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Pretty neat.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Very interesting.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I'm surprised Jeremy doesn't have some story about these.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No. I got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nothing. Damn. That's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a first.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mean, Jeremy. I've heard of, I've heard of them before.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Jeremy's the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): encyclopedia,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man. If Jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doesn't know about it. never seen
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): before.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It doesn't exist.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): I've heard of these before, but I've never seen one in person. i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you put that up and i went oh fuck yeah that thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): charging handles
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): on the top right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): under the carry
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): rip
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it off gene stoner you fucking
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly bastards
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): why why would they have a charging handle up there when you have the pump
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the the pump is intended for cycling lower power ammunition so yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's semi-auto these
Nick (reference, not reviewed): combination semi-auto pump guns are usually meant for like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if you're shooting beanbags
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or batons or something
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that won't actually cycle the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): action
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like if you put in a magazine you can just pump
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the action yeah but a lot of them no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): because the way a lot of these work like this past 12 you actually have to select the the pump option like in the forend and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): work it and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like you have to get it back in it's just easier to rack the thing somewhere else
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's not
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like a pump action ar where like it's made to be the the thing that cycles the action you probably could do that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but my
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my guess is the the the selecting the pump option is going to put you in a precarious situation because then it won't run semi-auto like you've put it in separate pump action mode that's too bad
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i mean it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): still cool but yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): pretty cool it's interesting it's novel
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking now
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i have no idea what the fuck dude i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): shit shit that shit that got people shit that got people killed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have an idea of what it might be well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we're about to find that got
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): entire military units wiped
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): out
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right uh jeremy says five thousand five hundred dollars and guns that got entire military units wiped out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says two thousand dollars and guns with slings
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says four thousand six hundred forty three dollars and novel actions
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this sold for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): guys were all way off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh man $20
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ,000
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): remember
Nick (reference, not reviewed): there were only 180
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it sold
Nick (reference, not reviewed): for $15,520
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): didn't have to be close I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had to be higher than them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh yeah 100% Jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): was only $10,026 off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn I doubled my bid too and the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): theme tonight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that all of these guns have slings
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i deleted slings and put novel actions i was like slings is too easy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no way there's no way he's gonna do that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i even went back
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to look at the first one because i was double checking to see if it had a sling
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one right here is a browning blr
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got a 20 inch barrel it's in 308 winchest hair
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it comes with a scope and a sling um i'm not exactly sure what camo pattern that is on the sling but it's pretty freaking awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um let's see this is a ridiculous
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bid numbers holy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shit i know uh yeah this one had 46 bits
Nick (reference, not reviewed): um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): got a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what is it a bushnell three to nine light sight illuminated reticle scope on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was just gonna say it's got some electronics on the back there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): which
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but it's a bush yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's a it's an old school bush now
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): these are these are pretty interesting they're a box mag mag fed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): lever action rifle so you could shoot cartridges like 308 that have a pointy bullet and no rim
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one is in a very good condition overall
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it looks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nice it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it does look very nice i'm gonna
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shit
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): if this goes for like stupid money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): for reasons i'll explain later
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i haven't i mean i'm not going to explain what my price is until we say it but i would not think it was for stupid money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): savage why Why you choose the price that you chose?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Because I don't think that it would be for stupid money.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this motherfucker trying to pull a fast one on us?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No, I'm not. I have no idea what you guys are going to choose. I just don't think it's going to be high.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Savage,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I guessed 1,146. That's what I guessed, Savage. What did you guess?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm not telling you until we fucking go.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Sean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): said $1,146. Savage said $700.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Jeremy
Nick (reference, not reviewed): said $1,000.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sold for $1,038. God! $0.55.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that Jeremy was only $38.55 off. They still make these.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I didn't think that this sold for a lot, but 46 bids made me go over $1,000.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Damn it. Savage, also, I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): told you what I did. still
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): learning where everybody's like thing was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): on
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what's weird to me is that i see more browning bumper stickers than i see people actually using browning firearms that's a good point
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and i especially
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i see a bunch of those ones that have the um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the buck and the doe together
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you know i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know exactly what you're talking about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): weird i'm like do you actually own a browning because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): feel like for every 10 people that have one of those bumper stickers one of them owns a browning
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do own a browning
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you have one of those bumper stickers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): don't i don't but i do own a browning auto 5
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't have a browning
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and i really like blrs i i think i i really like blrs um uh well i like lever actions we all know that but with a rotating locking bolt and the gear dried system that those things have you can just get a lot more pressure in them than like a Savage 99 but I love the Savage 99 from a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): from
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a nostalgic standpoint
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the BLR is a more robust action that's why I like the Henry Long Rangers I just wish they'd come out with more calibers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I agree well nicely done Jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right. Next gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This
Nick (reference, not reviewed): one will be near and dear to Savage's heart.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): It is.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): This.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Excuse
Nick (reference, not reviewed): me. Is that an Uzi?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah. Yes, it is. Is it a registered
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): short
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Uzi?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): An Uzi Model B. It is semi-auto. It is 9mm.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pre-ban, guys. That's very important.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Fucking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): cool.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): comes in the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): factory
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hard case and no this is not an sbr so this has a 16 inch barrel and then it has the the shorter barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you see in the photo is actually a dummy barrel and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the the 16 inch barrel is down here laying on the case
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sorry did you say a dummy barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it comes with a dummy barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dummy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): thick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): have never heard of a gun coming with a dummy barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah well now you have
Nick (reference, not reviewed): charted
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): this one has three mags a sling a manual and the original uh literature that came with it as well as the case it's in excellent condition had 55 bids
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah and it genuinely does appear to be in very good condition
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's a fuck ton of bids too
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is a lot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): really is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): looks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): great
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we all know that gunbroker bidders are tards
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're tarded
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so savage i'm gonna guess 7,492
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah i'm gonna guess 20,000
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Smart, Jeremy. That's what I should have done. I'm going to change mine $20,001.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Big brain move.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): All right.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Three,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): two, one, go.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I did it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): You're the only one I'm waiting on, Jeremy.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I hit the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Does it say
Nick (reference, not reviewed): guest submitted?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There it goes.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do it now?
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, now I did it. Okay. All right. Jeremy says $1,600. close savage says 1800
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sean
Nick (reference, not reviewed): says 3255
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): way overbid
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hope so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well 55
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): bids dude
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hope you like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): doubled
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it actually
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can tell you that sean was $246 and one penny off because it sold for $3,008
Nick (reference, not reviewed): .99. Retard.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): No, fucking idiots. It's not even a fucking machine gun.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They must have thought that this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was dummy thick.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): They deserve to have paid that much.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That is so much for a semi
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): -auto Uzi.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's stupid. It's really dumb.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This is a Remington 742 Woodsmaster in 30-06.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, these are super cool. Tony has one really cool.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This one has a 22-inch barrel. It comes with a Redfield 3-9
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a sling.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of a cool padded leather sling.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in pretty good condition. it's got some uh some scratches and stuff on the stock that you can't see in this photo
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Nick (reference, not reviewed): were in the other photos
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): these are these are pretty neat um semi-automatic box fed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of kind of cool rifles these pop up every once in a while
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): around
Nick (reference, not reviewed): here i don't see them like too terribly often but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know every once in while they pop up and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think they're pretty neat they came in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): bunch of different cartridges and stuff
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um these
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mags are pretty small right jeremy they're like three rounds or something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah they're they're they're they're not high capacity at all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it'd
Nick (reference, not reviewed): be cool if you could get like a big 20 round box mag for it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wish somebody would have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): done that uh and put them into you know pro mag probably makes it but you know you can't get more than one shot out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know what promag stands for right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pretty
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): retarded operator might also gay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's uh please remember our mags are garbage
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i've honestly never heard that before
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right uh jeremy said 850 savage said 1200 sean just changed his to 1645
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): did holy shit i was like we started saying the bids i was like fuck i bet i didn't make it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): well you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): your
Nick (reference, not reviewed): first bid wasn't gonna get it your second bid's definitely not gonna get it uh this sold for 610 dollars which
Nick (reference, not reviewed): means that jeremy was
Nick (reference, not reviewed): 240 off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): clicked the wrong button hold on let me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): we go
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah these don't go for a lot of money i just yeah 45 bids
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man i'm when i see them around here they're like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 500
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or under
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh they're not too bad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a good value i'd say that's a decent value for that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i mean 30 out 6 rifle for 600
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): bad i know i would have expected way more obviously
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): me
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): too that's why i bid so much more
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): good good game guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): our that's our five so the score for tonight
Nick (reference, not reviewed): jeremy had three sean had two savage had one i mean that means that jeremy is our big wiener
Nick (reference, not reviewed): for the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): night
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then for the season
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): far
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): we've got sean at 23 points jeremy at 19 points savage at 13
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and then
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm back there with three
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): congrats
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick you're really good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thank
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you you know not bad for never playing a game in my uh in my life yes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): see so since we have switched to this new system Sean has been an average of $2,488.89 off Jeremy has been an average of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): $2
Nick (reference, not reviewed): ,000 or no excuse me this is just for tonight
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm the wrong one
Nick (reference, not reviewed): for tonight Jeremy was $2,505.71 off and Savage was an average of $3,269.71 off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it takes is one fucking retarded
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we also
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also does cumulative so for the season jeremy's leading he's on eighteen thousand dollars eighteen thousand two hundred forty three dollars and fifty four cents cumulatively off
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh no i don't know what you're
Nick (reference, not reviewed): reading but it's totally different than the numbers i've got
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sorry jeremy jeremy
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for the season is thirty five thousand eight hundred ninety three off
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that's also totally not what
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): wait net wait you're average
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): versus
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, you're reading that. I got
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it. Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): That.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): So I was going to read those next,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): go
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): off. No, no, no. Sorry.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): it's okay.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I apologize. Let me pull
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): up
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the chat.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Oh, holy shit. Okay. So in the listener gunfights run by Plow Guy Dave, Shep 10 had one. Dirt Racer had two. Jay West had two. the tiebreaker was what Nick's first episode in the WLS studio after he moved to Colorado
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the winner was Dirt Racer who guessed 222 but Nick your first episode after you moved to Colorado in the studio was episode 171
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that right? I guess
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): crazy hell of an introduction to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Colorado
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): kurt from blue alphas first first as well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that was when they launched the hybrid belts yep that's so crazy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i totally uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i would have sworn that i had been there for a little while before that but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thought so too but that's hilarious i don't remember that was so long ago
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thank
Nick (reference, not reviewed): god i take his word for it because i think he knows more about the show than we do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a hundred percent a hundred percent
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you mentioned pictures maybe not showing up was there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): an
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): issue
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah i did the i did the thing yeah i selected the photos and then it just defaulted to the first four photos oh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Nick (reference, not reviewed): as usual photo photos two three and four were the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): images or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the text.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Okay. I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): will fix that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): That
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is fucking crazy. Okay.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Awesome. Yeah. Oh, sorry.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Let's go in fights.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you want to do any additional stats? Sorry.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Oh, I thought you were doing it.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): No, I shut the fuck up because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not my place. No. You were already doing it. I was not.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't even have it up anymore.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Well,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): here.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'll
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pull it up for you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): can't see that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Nick (reference, not reviewed): because you have old ass eyes.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Shut up. This is that ACOS Arms bolt action 45 ACP that I talked about earlier, but I would like to mention what is on the front of this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Does
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anyone recognize that?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): A barrel nut?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): No,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's a Midwest Industries handguard.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was not a trick question savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i know i was being a dick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah this is uh midwest industries this is one of their fancy ones this is a seven inch handguard and i helped the acos guy get in touch with midwest industries too uh because he was having trouble with his supplier so uh this one and probably some others will start coming with midwest industries hand guards which this hand guard is actually really really nice feels really good scalloped in a bunch of areas uh that you would want it to be has
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): quick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): detach sling points there uh m lock all over the place lightning cuts on the top obviously full rail all the way through and the midwest industries barrel nut um so if you're looking for a hand guard for your ar-15 whether you're a manufacturer or just an everyday dude trying to upgrade his shit to the good stuff check out midwest industries at midwest industries inc.com coupon code wls is life we'll save you some money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you want to bang
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no no please okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fine
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): thanks savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): always always down to do the gay shit and i really appreciate that about you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): everybody does
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right this is going to be bang rank where we rank the stuff that makes you angry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): let me go ahead and share my screen here let me resize everything to do the thing so if you're watching along live you can also vote for these let me move this qr code to where you can actually see it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so if you scan the qr code that's on the screen with your phone uh you'll also be able to rank all of these along with the cast here now tonight is the most overrated gun accessory and you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a lot of overrated gun accessories out there. Jeremy, I've got it up on screen for you so you can actually see what the items are. We're going to judge it by, you know,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): overrated is it? And obviously this is a ranking system. S is like superior, like it's the most overrated thing in the universe. And then we go A, C, D, F, just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like letter grades. worst
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): shit is s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes yeah that's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): what i was gonna ask okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): most overrated
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gun accessory and the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's the most overrated is going to be at the top and we're going to discuss like why we think they're overrated so on and so forth now the items tonight are going to be visible lasers backup irons on every rifle pistol compensators for concealed carry weapon mounted lights on carry guns match triggers and carry guns single point slings and red anodized ar parts
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so here's gonna kind of be the catch because you're going to be measuring whether it's the most overrated but if it's not rated very high to begin with
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): people would like lasers for example yeah or like red anodized parts uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they would already not be rated very high so they can't be overrated
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like a double negative
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that see that's just not true because there's an entire industry of visible lasers out there that people buy all the time and i see them when i used to go to the indoor ranges i would at least see two every trip
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think red anodized parts would be a better one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): red
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anodized parts it's on there
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i know i know but i'm saying like it wouldn't be overrated because people don't rate it highly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): how
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): would you word it because i i'm working this out every week so like i'm i'll get things dialed in as we go but like how would how would you word
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): tough
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i agree most
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): useless accessory instead of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): most useless accessory they that that's that's the wording that will go so most useless accessory and uh i'm gonna start off with visible lasers and i would like to know why jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh hold
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): on my eyes are going screwy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): his
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): eyes are going screwy he's not he's not okay guys
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm good um which one first sorry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): visible
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): lasers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fuck shit is the high one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shit
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is the high one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): s yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): s yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is the high one like literally so most useless gun accessories
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): correct
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah visible laser
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): unless
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you're talking i mean if we're talking about for actual use and not like training pointing things out like actually using the firearm as intended yeah they're the most worthless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so you give that an s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): would give visible lasers in s except for in training or instruction to prove a point about something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right so jeremy says s nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): agree with jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): holy shit savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): also s okay
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what why do you guys hate visible lasers so much
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking dumb
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): why
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you put the laser on the target you pull the trigger you hit the target like that seems pretty useful
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): turn it on in a point of because the problem is it makes people fucking lazy right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): makes people fucking rely on that they won't practice with their fucking sites they won't put the range time in they think it's magical and people are uh people tend to go for path of least resistance it's why they fucking complain oh i need to get this gun to do this because it's more comfortable oh i'm sorry i thought we were talking about saving your life i thought a little bit of discomfort would be worth that but i guess not you fucking piece of shit so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um so people will tend to just do that and then they think it's magical and then they don't put any actual training into shooting the gun and then they rely on it and then in the heat of the moment go ahead turn that fucker on i do oh well it turns on when i grab myself yeah you haven't replaced the batteries in five years right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know add that to the point that they're usually really fucking cheaply made pieces of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shit you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can get good ones you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can't get
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): good
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ones but the people that want
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to put them on their guns are not buying those ones
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): one thing if you have like a swat team and everybody's got visible lasers and they're swinging around everywhere that's a psychological thing for the guy that you're assaulting to be like oh fuck me right yeah but like you in a ccw setting i can't think of one instance
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): were trying to come up with ways where like a laser could be um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): useful
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and nothing else Would take its place. Right. And the only thing we could think of was like, you were at a diner and you could get your gun out of the holster, fuck you.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Gideon Optics said Jeremy and Savage are basically the same person at this point.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): We're basically like twins.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): He's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm fucking Danny DeVito.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): exactly
Nick (reference, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i was like if you're sitting in this diner if
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you're in a diner in an 80s action movie and the bad guy comes in with a shotgun to rob the place right and you're like over in the corner and you could like get the gun out under the table but if you like tried to like pick it up over the table you get fucking smoke and like from under the table you could like click the laser on realize that you have probably an unimpeded shot put it on the guy's you know back and fire the trigger
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah from
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): under the table sure but like what are the fucking odds of that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): then you still didn't put batteries in it for five fucking years
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i am
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not a laser fan i don't think that they're useful i think that for most cases they're pointless i think that people use them as a crutch
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): also rank them as a b because i've seen several cases where they were actually very useful i've had multiple students with early onset parkinson's come through can't hold the gun still enough to actually get through the sights to see through the sights but they were able to get the hits that they needed to with the laser um and poor eyesight for some reason it was easier for them to see a laser on the target than it was for them to see they were super
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it near i don't i don't even know but they could see like out
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 10
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): feet much better than they could see 10 ninjas is that farsighted
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure
Nick (reference, not reviewed): but if we're if we're playing two
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weird
Nick (reference, not reviewed): exceptions then like i'm sure all of these will have
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hundred
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): percent well these will all be enough for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): edge case not all of them so much relevant
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all of them so i give it a b just because i've seen it i've i've had the opportunity to train a bunch of older people and people that were you know infirm and in different ways and uh like i've seen it be useful so i don't think it's the most useless gun accessory
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hear
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the argument a lot that like the bad guy will see the dot on their chest and they'll quit doing what they're doing but like that's gay that's fun if i'm in the middle of doing bad things i'm not generally like looking down
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know gonna
Nick (reference, not reviewed): be the other thing is sure
Nick (reference, not reviewed): to see what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and and if you're you're close enough
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): actually use a laser
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the most part
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can also shoot pretty well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah with
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a very small amount of practice
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah like uh sean and i had a
Nick (reference, not reviewed): had a guy make the argument this was years and years ago
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): shooting from an awkward position like he gave us some weird you know like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): laying twisted over whatever you know and you could use the laser because you wouldn't be able to get your sights up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): so we actually set up and shot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): in
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the i think with a cert pistol
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i remember the position that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): he was talking about and using the laser and then just point shooting from that awkward position uh we were faster every single time point shooting and just as if not more accurate
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't want one i don't want any of my friends to have them but i have seen them be useful so i don't i can't say that they're the most useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have a pistol with a laser on it so do
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but i only use it when i'm in class or demonstrating to somebody like this is why you don't over grip the gun this is what you do when you jerk the gun this is you know when you push the gun this is what happens when you do you know one of the hardest things to do for people is when they're holding a gun is you have sympathetic movement when you pull your trigger your other fingers want to close and a lot of people if you shoot low left this is what you're doing you're
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): closing your whole hand as you pull the trigger right that's low left you close your whole hand and the way them if you're right-handed if you're left-handed it goes low right if you're right-handed and you shoot low left you're close you're gripping all your fingers as you pull the trigger and it goes low left and i will have a laser on the wall to demonstrate
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): tightening
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my grip on the gun and you watch the laser go low left and at 25 feet that laser moves three fucking feet downward from just tightening my hand so it's a good way to show what the gun does but i'm never going to fucking be like oh yeah and use this in in a real world scenario
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so i mean therefore it's not useless it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): has
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): use it is useless i said except for training which is what i'm talking about in the real world it is useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): between all of us SSB, that is going to average out to an S for visible
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): laser sights.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Next up, we have backup iron sights on every rifle. Savage, start us off.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): D? I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): don't think they're overrated.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Useless. Motherfucker,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't say overrated.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): You made me change it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to most
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): useless. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I don't think they're useless at all. I think they're very useful.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'd say D.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Jeremy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): f
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i don't think they're necessary on every rifle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if it's a rifle you intend to use seriously and uh like they they don't add that much weight or bulk
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you can get them for not that much money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Nick (reference, not reviewed): when you say every rifle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): mean every rifle or every rifle that you intend to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): rely on
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there are people that are like if you don't have backup iron sights on your rifles you're a fool
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): there's there's some rifles you can't put iron sights on so like for those i'm going to be like well like if you have a bolt action ruger american they don't have a way to put i'm not gonna mill the fucking barrel and figure out and completely manufacture a fucking rear sight with a fucking like so no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): spirit here
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): like ar style
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you didn't say that sorry i figured the picture that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): what i was trying to ask are we talking like defensive rifles
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no i don't think you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): should have backup iron sights on your bolt action rifles sorry i didn't clarify i'll do better next time
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i should i'm gonna to say f on that one f okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna disagree with you guys again
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that some rifles especially you know i think that some rifles are purpose-built i have backup iron sights on maybe three rifles
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i have a lot of rifles i just don't think it's a thing that you need on every single thing even if your red dot battery dies even if your glass gets broken you can still probably make mid-range impacts on target at least enough to do some damage without backup iron sights on every single damn rifle like i have them on the rifles that i would
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): actually
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's a lie my mitchell defense does not have backup iron sights on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not saying all of my rifles have backup iron sights but in no way shape or form are they useless if you have them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a good point i just uh the spirit here i was like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no we're going fucking letter bitch that spirit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's not the spirit spirit of aloha here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's b i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): give it a b which means that this averages out to a d
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a b huh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just like i think they're useful on some rifles i don't think they're used as well on every rifle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): see
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm a paranoid son of a bitch and i'm waiting for the emp
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and it's just like we
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): make up problems to solve i think a lot of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): times whatever
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but if that but like i i'm not gonna like i don't want to go find them if i have my brother just be on the goddamn gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i know it's probably not gonna happen much to my chagrin but like i don't want to have to go hunt them down i'd rather just have them and they're not useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pistol
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): compensators for your concealed carry gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna say a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): b
Nick (reference, not reviewed): minus or a c plus
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think they're really cool i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): enjoy them i have fun with them are they necessary absolutely not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): are
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they useless no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Nick (reference, not reviewed): assuming that it's a proper compensator that's like mounted to the barrel and you're shooting ammo that actually like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): makes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): a compensator do something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then then no if you're shooting like a 45 acp with a bushing compensator or something then yes they're useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): you're probably not concealed carrying that gun so which one b or c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): this on a carry gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes okay pistol
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): compensators for your concealed carry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy go ahead
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not saying i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not saying a compensator
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'm not saying a compensator is a useless thing right but on your carry gun with the interaction that you're probably going to have on it with a carry gun that is pretty fun it's It's, it's one of those things where it's like, it's not useless, but it's pointless.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like,
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you're just a tactical Timmy and 99.99% of the time with something like that, you're just being a tactical Timmy, which is fine. I'm okay with that. But like, it's not doing anything on most people's concealed carry setups.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): What
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was the dude at the food court that took out the mass killer?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): With
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a stock 43X
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): or 48.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): What's his name?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): something Dickon.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, Elijah Dickon.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): That's Big Dick, Elijah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Dickon.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100%, yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): In
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): case, a comp is probably a pretty good thing. He didn't have one. Would it have helped? Maybe, I guess.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): It
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): wouldn't have done shit. It would have been useless. It wouldn't have affected the outcome.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I give this an A because I agree. And this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): one
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and the next two are really painful for me because I have all three of them on my carry gun. so like i just i do not feel like compensators make a big enough difference to bother with the cost like if i was trying to eke out every possible performance benefit and gain that i possibly could for whatever reason that i can't even actually understand a scenario that would involve that maybe but i just like i think that this is overall just a useless thing that makes it look cool and adds so little performance increase that i don't think it's worth the time it takes
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): to put it on there uh savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm not compensating for anything um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think yeah it was it was between a b and a c before but i'm slipping towards a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay yep
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i think i think a is pretty solid
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Nick (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i do
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i do think a lot of people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like i said the the comps that aren't mounted actually to the barrel
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't don't do anything uh the the guns that have like the barrel that ends and then the slide continues and it's got ports in the slide but not actually in the barrel
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yes
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh don't really do anything
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): if you're not shooting
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): high enough pressure ammunition then you're not going to get anything out of the compensator
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i think there are a lot of people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): have compensators
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): or ported barrels um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): then are not taking advantage of them and not actually like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): shooting
Nick (reference, not reviewed): ammunition that is gonna
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): get
Nick (reference, not reviewed): them any benefit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i are
Nick (reference, not reviewed): cool though
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i i have one on my carry gun i have the radiant
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): ramjet
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and afterburner on my 365 xl and i like it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): don't know that it improves anything because like i've literally shot it side by side with a regular xl and it was so negligible that i couldn't even tell a difference and i i saw in the chat that jwa said ports instead of bolt-on comps and so i compared three guns that were basically the same with the same uh features and the same ammo and the same size and everything and the one that had a ported barrel and slide
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): did
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): better than the radian ramjet and afterburner than a standard end of barrel other i think it was a fax and comp
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just the standard the only one that really made a difference was ported barrel and ported slide
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): port the barrel don't port the slide and see what happens
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah people
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have done that i know 100
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): love the pictures on instagram
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they'll have you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): can find the pictures
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they'll have a ported barrel soon
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ported
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): slide self
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): -porting self-porting slide
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right guys weapon mounted lights on your carry gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i've
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): seen arguments both ways on the internet f jeremy says f nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i think that it is a very good idea
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know that it's necessary
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you know a lot of self-defense stuff is gonna it's the same argument we use for night sites right a lot of uh self-defense stuff happens in what do you call them transitionary periods uh or
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or in the dark transitional
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): spaces
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): sure yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah where the lighting is
Nick (reference, not reviewed): not great or it is just straight up dark um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): great to have a light that you can use to see what you're shooting or identify stuff um even if you're not you know pointing the gun directly at somebody
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): but i also don't
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that it is complete like 100 of the time you have to have it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): gonna i'm gonna say d
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): am very much of the mind and i literally just talked about this i was like Listen, sometimes I think we just make up. Our own problems.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): think that having a flashlight on your concealed carry or your defensive firearm is a mandatory thing. I think that there are more situations where it might be useful than situations where it causes any kind of impediment. I
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): can't think of a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): situation where it causes an impediment. Well, because if you don't need it, you don't use it.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I'm glad you mentioned that because the biggest impediment is that it adds bulk and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): discomfort.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): falcon size yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): would agree
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): with but at
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that point like maybe maybe a little bit your whole strategy to be a little bit bigger but i will say that i've seen many people misuse
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the light on their gun they use it to you know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): light things that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): probably aren't threats
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): exactly just dumb shit like that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): but that doesn't outweigh the usefulness i think that this is a very useful thing for me this is an f and even for the people that misuse it it doesn't matter it doesn't change the fact savage what do you think
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i you know it also depends on your carry gun because if you're gonna have a subcompact
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): adding
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a light would add a significant amount of bulk depending on the design
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but yeah i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean i think i think d is fair i think i don't think it's the best thing but i think it's it's pretty pretty high up there as far as useful
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): how's this gonna average here so averages 2d
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): boom
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): all right now match triggers in your carry gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): would say probably b to a i mean yeah you want to have a light trigger but
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): when
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're going to be in the heat of the moment and you have your finger on the trigger
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): might accidentally touch something off when you don't mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): pick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm i'm gonna go b b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick um i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): think i'm gonna agree with savage and go b
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't think it's bad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're not a dumbass but uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you have some some practice but i also don't think it's like necessary
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i say this as a trigger snob
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): 100
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): most people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): good trigger is beyond them anyways yeah so it makes it pretty useless but that's not to say that it's useless for everybody right so i'm gonna go with c c
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all right i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gonna go with s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): agree with everything jeremy just said and i thought that he was gonna steal my thunder uh i think that it's not useless for everybody but i think for the average dude it's just a thing that they're gonna buy just so they and my concealed carry gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): has
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): an upgraded match trigger
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): doesn't really give me any performance benefit i can't shoot it any faster like it's just like it's good i like the way it feels and it's it's gold so like you know there's a little bit of aura farming there for the gram i just like i don't think it's a necessary thing i don't think it's a thing that you really care about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i don't think
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's necessary but i don't think it's useless and the prompt is useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i will say that of all the you know active self-protection stuff that i've watched like these people probably don't have they probably there's fucking people getting in self-defense shootings with high points
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i told i tell people all the time i'm like if you actually have to draw that thing and use it you're gonna pull the trigger off the gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah 100 you're gonna pull it you're not even gonna feel
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the trigger yeah it's gonna fucking grip it and rip it bro
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i don't think that they're like always useless but i think overall i think i can i put this up with visible laser sight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh i i worked at a company where we had an incident
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): resulted in the fire marshal coming in and doing a fire safety
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thing for everybody um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and he had us all practice with the fire extinguisher and uh he brought in a couple to show us where um there had been fires at places and people had grabbed the fire extinguisher off the wall
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not
Nick (reference, not reviewed): pulled the pin and then just crushed the handle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh i believe that because they're so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like hyped up right and then you know of course the fire extinguisher is useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): and just jeremy saying that like you're gonna rip the trigger off the gun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): made me think of that
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like yeah if
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you're all amped up and everything You're just going to pull the thing. It's not going
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to... It's so true. Now, all the time, when
Nick (reference, not reviewed): I go to the range and practice with the thing, which is going to be obviously like 99.99% of the shooting that I'm going to do with the gun, or probably 100% of the shooting I'm going to do with the gun, like having the match trigger or whatever is awesome, but is it necessary? No.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and like i just think overall uh it is it is useless overall except to a very small amount of people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): again i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): have it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so my
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): old job before the the gun store yeah i worked for our family business and i'm a welder metal fabricator by trade um so i started off like as a maintenance guy and a wheelchair repair guy and then i you know just so i we had a thing called life safety code and like all the house all the group homes that we ran had to be up to this life safety code so it's my job to make sure all the group homes were up to the code and when the inspectors from the state came i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): had to walk around with them and get yelled at for everything that i missed
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): part of that was fire extinguisher training i had to train we we got the big box out back behind the thing and we set it on we set gasoline on fire and we fucking made people use fire extinguishers to put out so we could train people in the use of fire first off how many fucking people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just you after a fucking three-hour period of instruction don't understand how to run a fire extinguisher
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mind-boggling i believe it and and some of them were nurses
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): even watching 30 people go before them
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): do the right thing and then they still couldn't use a fire extinguisher. Like, if you did the drill correct, you'd have the fire out in about three seconds. Done. Like, it was like a three-second burst, you're done, off you go, right? And some of these people just, it didn't click, and it was eye-opening the psychology behind it, right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): %
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yes
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): um anytime you instruct anybody in anything that you think is simple just remember it's not for them um and so like that was that was part of my job for a long time was was stuff like that and he brought up the fire extinguisher thing and it just made me think of like how many people like you don't know you don't understand how badly what you just said to that person didn't click
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): at
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no just no comprehension
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100 next
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): single
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): point slings
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just single individual attachment point and we're talking about most useless gun accessories i think that i'll start on this one i'm just gonna say see i think that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): better than nothing for retention of your firearm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is it's like dunning kruger so when i first got into guns i was like oh single point sling i've seen all these in the movies it looks cool this is exactly what i want i put a single point sling on and i went to run a training class and i dropped my gun down one time and hit myself right in the nuts and i don't think i've ever used a single point sling sense
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): single
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): points single points have a use as weapon retention if you fall down a hill if it's like a lanyard on a pistol think of single point slings like a land like a pistol lanyard yeah right all the military guns have have lanyard holes for pistols why is that because if you're if you get blown up by artillery and it doesn't kill you but sends you flying uh or fucking down a hill or into a fucking hole you don't have to go looking around for your shit single point
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): slings are the pistol lanyards of rifles right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah if
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): you have to set the weapon down do some shit and then grab your fucking rifle again yeah they're perfectly fine for that as a as a this thing is fucking complicated um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): as use for like a like a tactical sling no no no no no
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like they're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just use
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): them
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): for their
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): use case and i you know i think one thing here is like rank these amongst the other items that we have here i i changed mine from a c to a b um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so jeremy i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): gonna say c c they're they're not useless at all but don't expect them to do a thing that they're not made to do savage
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mean mean, it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): makes
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): a rifle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): floppy.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Oh, it hits the ground with him 100%. And
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): slaps the shit out of you. I don't think it allows for enough control as a two-point sling. It's kind of in A territory for me.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): Okay. Nick? I'm going to say B. I had the exact same experience that you talked about,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i went to you know transition to a handgun dropped the rifle smacked myself right in the nuts
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah um i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): do think that they have a place you know of course with retention like jeremy talked about but also with really short guns where you might not have the real estate to uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): run a proper two-point or uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Nick (reference, not reviewed): do you like bodyguard type stuff um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): psd work where
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): might want something like cinched up under an armpit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): or something
Nick (reference, not reviewed): uh a single point is good for that uh or even shooting stockless stuff like like you know the classic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sas method with the mp5k
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Nick (reference, not reviewed): where you're tensioning the the sling to shoot
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like they do have some uses but it's like it's again very specialized
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): kind
Nick (reference, not reviewed): of like you were talking about with the uh the laser
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): in fact now that i say kind of like you were talking about with the laser i'm gonna bump it up to a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): okay single
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): point slings
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): let's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see how do i readjust this there we go single point slings nick goes to an a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Nick (reference, not reviewed): that that keltech that we were talking about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah the
Nick (reference, not reviewed): new sub 2000 that's probably going to be hard to put a two-point sling on especially the way it folds
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like a single point might be
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about
Nick (reference, not reviewed): all you can do on that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and that's the kind of situation where i i see that it might have some use and again they're not useless they're just like ranked amongst its peers in this list they're
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not used less
Nick (reference, not reviewed): they're just less use
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for me red anodized ar parts again another one's painful to me personally because i have some on my first ar that i ever got because i was like oh fuck yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): red
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): metal
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i'm in
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): s
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): useless and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and cringe jeremy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sorry
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): red
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): anodized air parts
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): fucking a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): a or
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): s s
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): s
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): sorry s just fucking retarded don't do it's fucking useless
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): only thing it's not useless for is letting anybody else know at the range that you're a fucking retard
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): s for strike industries
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know i'm gonna to go a different direction um
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hate
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i like i'm not a fan um i hate them just like everybody else because it's fun
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): like
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): are companies that make quality parts that also make red parts i agree with that and they don't function any less good any less well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): than
Nick (reference, not reviewed): any other color color apart okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's a good point it's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): just a style thing so i am ambivalent
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): don't know like a
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): needs to be a middle
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no between
Nick (reference, not reviewed): b and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): c no middle ground
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i'm gonna say i'm gonna say b b okay
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there is another point to be made in there in that it is anodized so there is protection of the actual part from the chemical process so it's not useless the color might be useless but the fact that it's being anodized makes it useful just like any other anodized part so that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): now i'm kind of conflated here
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know yeah it is a good point uh pretty much regardless it's going to be an s just uh because of the overwhelming s's unless you really go the other direction and choose an f
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i've already clicked this red anodized parts are like ohio
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Nick (reference, not reviewed): know it's it's it's fun to hate on i enjoy talking shit about it but at the end of the day like it's really
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Nick (reference, not reviewed): doesn't really matter like it's fine yeah whatever
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): all
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): right final results for most useless gun accessory. So visible laser sights, hosts gave it an S for most useless. Viewers a C in the middle. In the middle-ish. Bottom part of the middle. Red Anidar's parts, hosts gave it an S. Viewers gave it an A. Pistol compensators for concealed carry. Hosts A, viewers C. Match triggers and carry guns. Hosts B, viewers C. Single point slings. Hosts B, viewers B.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Thank
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Viewers, B. Weapon-mounted lights on carry guns, D for both. And backup iron sights on every rifle. Hosts, D. Viewers, C. So these are pretty interesting. I will also say this is doing kind of exactly what I wanted. We're getting to argue some points. It kind of reminds me a little bit of the old days of gunfights. And I will also say that it's wonderful. this uh i just posted it to social
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so everyone can see the results it is creating so much fucking conversation on social media and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): linkedin the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): worst all these fucking idiots that just have these super strong incorrect opinions that are verifiably incorrect just i literally started just posting fud lore with the trademark symbol on almost every one of their comments just fuddle or trademark fuddle or trademark fuddle or just because it's so bad the conversation is so bad over there it's it's amazing and this is exactly what i was hoping for is to you know get people spun up about it to disagree with us
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh you know and
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you saying the gunfights thing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Nick (reference, not reviewed): awesome
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i uh because i i did enjoy that format except uh uh except the angry arguing that went on for days and with this there's no uh winner or loser
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): correct so
Nick (reference, not reviewed): i i don't have to hear you guys bicker
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): for
Nick (reference, not reviewed): the next week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's not
Nick (reference, not reviewed): adversarial at all how i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): chose wrong
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i totally agree it's like it's the good parts of the old gunfights and none of the bad parts
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Nick (reference, not reviewed): good job sean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thanks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): man i'm enjoying it it's it's tough to put the list together, but because it's like there's so many different things you could choose. And this one,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): one felt like a personal attack
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): because
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I've made most of these mistakes, but yeah. All right. Good job, guys. And thank you. Thank you to the listeners for playing along that.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very much enjoy it. Let's see. Let's do this.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Let
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): me figure this out.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): All right. Sorry. I'm just trying to get myself squared away here.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Night vision makes night sights. We were talking about useless i think this is useful transitional spaces so for example you're in your dark bedroom um there's a light on in the living room any of that stuff like you can see your sites you can identify the threat you can posit you can get a pid on the threat you can still see your sites you can still do what you need to do um and the cool thing is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): they
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): make the plates that will co-witness with your sites and specific uh red dots and things like that and let me get to that tab where I had it up here. They just actually announced new Smith and Wesson and Walther optic mounting plates. And I think that's very cool. So now they just keep adding to the optics plates that they have. So you get a good co-witness on the red dot that you buy the set for. You get good
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): night sights. You get to pick the night sights that you like. I just think this a really good idea i know they have to add a ton of skews for this and like that's you know not ideal for them just as a company but for us as consumers it gives us a ton
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): a ton of options and i think that's great so if you're looking for night sights if you're looking for plates and night sights to co-witness your optic go to night vision n-i-g-h-t-f-i-s-i-o-n.com and use coupon code wls's life to save some money
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was just reading the chat getting optics has been meaning to recommend adding an asmr segment to the show each cast member holds something up to the mic and touches it and then speaks softly about it this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): sounds terrible
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): mercedes
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is the the gideon pebble wait
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah is it called the pebble too
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): hold on what is this called
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): called the pebble enclosed red this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): the gideon pebble enclosed red and it's really sexy the front
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): lenses you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): have to flick it with your finger right next
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this all you hoped for bob because
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): this doesn't feel like what i had hoped for
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): goodness
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): um yeah asmr you know i actually i hate asmr
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know unpopular opinion savage is Time for you to do the news.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): really? I wasn't expecting that. Anyways, boy, interesting stuff going on this week. Not a ton, but definitely interesting stuff. So far, an appellate court is making a surprise move in the under-21 lawsuit. So in this article from Bearing Arms, it says here, the Supreme Court generally doesn't like to see appellate courts split on any given issue Since it can result in federal law being enforced in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): some parts of the country while being put on hold in other states, still SCOTUS left a circuit court split in place when it denied cert to five cases dealing with the right to acquire and right to carry firearms by adults under the age of 21 at its final conference last term. That was a really weird decision because they usually do go ahead with those take on those splits when they when they come up. Um,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so I guess the, let me see, it has gone to, in its particular opinion, reviving the Georgia law suit, the 11th circuit noted that while it upheld the ban on commercial sales of firearms to adults younger than 21,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): preserved access to firearms with parental consent and then turns its attention to Wolford. So in Wolford, the Supreme Court held that Hawaii statute banning concealed carry permit holders from carrying handguns on private property open to the public without the property owner's express authorization violated the Second Amendment. Hawaii primarily argued that its statute was constitutional because there were analogous colonial and early state laws. The Supreme Court disagreed. It viewed the historical
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): laws on which Hawaii relied and concluded they were vastly different because most of them prohibit unauthorized hunting of deer and so forth. When it denied the motion for preliminary injunction and dismissed the case before them today, the district court did not have the benefit of the Supreme Court's decision in Wolford. So their on-bank decision in the National Rifle Association, they therefore vacated the district court's order denying the motion for preliminary injunction and dismissing the case
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and remand it so that the district court can consider the intervening decisions in the first instance. So there's a chance that under the 11th Circuit that this could be revisited, which is really kind of crazy. So they're saying you still can't buy them, buy pistols under 21, but it might be possible that you could carry them as long as you were given them from your parents. I think that's an
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): interesting
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of looking at it.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'd really like to see the supreme court take this up and just finalize it because it should be it should be consistent across the board
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): just you know uh more things for the politicians and lower courts to ignore
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): as usual business as usual exactly
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i i know you brought up this story in uh in the last show
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh i'm sorry i didn't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see that you put it in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but i thought i just mention it here really quick because i still think it's pretty fucking exciting so says here that cmp is going to release surplus m14s will they threaten springfield armory's m1a market
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): leading
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): question uh so a couple of key details here cmp announcement states that prior to sale these rifles will be modified to be permanently and irreversibly semi-automatic rifles uh we'll see about that uh the modifications are expected to include defacing or eliminating the auto seared lug and filing receiver spaces to prevent conversion back to full auto capability they could try uh the rifles will remain fully compliant with the cmp legislation authoring the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): transfer authorizing the transfer of military surplus 30 caliber rifles as far as the market impact industry observers have speculated that these authentic m14s could threaten springfield armory's m1a sales however uh the host argues this is unlikely due to significant price differences while springfield armory's m1a rifles typically sell for around two thousand dollars the surplus m14s are expected to command prices between thirty five hundred and five
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): thousand dollars uh the host says that these are not the same clientele and the number of prospective clientele that you uh have at the upper limit they're not the same people man i remember back in the day talking probably about 2012
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): where
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you could pick up an m1 from cmv p for like six to eight hundred bucks
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it and all that you keep I'm host. It's VSO Gun Channel. Our
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): buddy Curtis over
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This is just a summary of the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): video.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): But man, God, to go from $600 to $800 to $2,000 to $3,500 or $5,000.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, it's not going to put a dent in Springfield
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): at all. This is for a very specific buyer, and Springfield is going to be just fine. Which I also don't know how many M1As they're actually selling.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i mean it'd be it'd be nice to know
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah uh
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): next one up here oh gotta love my home state of washington because three dead following a shootout at a seattle food festival because you know why not shoot up a food festival three people are dead four others injured following a shootout sunday evening between at least two people at the bite of seattle food festival uh two people died as a scene third person died after being transported to the hospital uh new york times noted that one of the people or one of the suspects is in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): custody and a search is on for the second uh seattle police department assistant chief tyrone davis described the suspect in custody as a young person
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 15 years old
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 15 years old yep and i've seen a picture and the picture would
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know is what you'd probably expect spd duty chief andre sales indicated that there is a possibility that there were more than two people shooting. Regardless of the number, police think the suspects were shooting at each other during the food festival. Man. One of the wounded victims was a two-year-old boy who was in stable condition. Thank God.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): It's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): crazy.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): This is fucking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): insane. This is
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): shitty little gang members or wannabe gang members just going at each other. know, 2% of the population doing 80% of the crime.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): More of the same. would
Nick (reference, not reviewed): you guys say that this was a food fight
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fuck so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so here's some other dumb shit that happened today in direct relation to this so nancy sinatra a fucking genius that she is i think a daughter daughter of frank god he'd be fucking embarrassed she immediately tweeted you know eliminate the guns founding fathers did not know about automatic weapons and this is she quoted a piece that was talking about uh and they mischaracterized it first of all as a mass shooting second of all they said that it involved assault weapons
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weapons
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): recovered were pistols and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): so that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): these jackasses
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): will be out on bail tomorrow
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and they'll be on so all the gun laws wouldn't have worked uh all the gun laws that they want to have are already fucking in place you stupid bitch and this is what infuriates me is that the the people who are the dumbest motherfuckers in the world help write the laws that negatively affect the vast majority of the people
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and their it's stupidity is killing us
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's our fucking problem
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): didn't know nancy sinatra was still alive
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i didn't know that anyone cared what she said
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know but like it just came up in my feed i'm like you stupid fucking bitch
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah god
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): damn it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): hey
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what about
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): why
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): do people have to be this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): dumb yeah what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): about dumb liberal white women shut the fuck up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): not stupidity it's ideology it's by design it's it's it's worldview
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's also stupid worldview but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): it's it's a worldview they think that people are criminals they think people are interchangeable we're all just the same and the reason these people went down this dark path is because society has failed them it's it's it's it's straight up communist ideology
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): just
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): do they call it homicidal empathy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no it's
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): societal empathy
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no it's well this is a suicidal
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): empathy suicidal empathy is like saying all these people from war-torn countries need to come here even though they don't share
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no no no you literally just said
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it you literally just said they they it's not their fault that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's right
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): but that's not the definition of suicidal empathy the the difference is they're saying society failed these people so they they that's why they went down this route that's not necessarily suicidal suicidal empathy would be like feeling bad for the for the poor you know there's a murderer standing in the street and he looks cold so we brought him inside even though he's like a known murderer and like a psychopath and you bring him inside because he look he just looks like he needs help it's the it's the people that you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know i don't
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): see any distinction between those two situations
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is um what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): trying to explain it and you keep going back
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): to it
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): yeah shut up sean
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): fucking explain it
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): in 10 words or less land the goddamn
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): plane no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that that's a fucking college thesis right there it's like it's like trying to fight with it's like trying to argue with somebody on facebook and they're like well why doesn't xyz and you're like i am not going to sit out here and write a complete Dissertation. I
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): know.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): On of.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): My favorite thing to tell him is like,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was like, you know what? I really disagree with everything you're saying, but you're genuinely not worth the time required to explain my position.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): And the
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): best part is somebody like that, even if you went through and gave them stats, statistics, facts, know, they would come back with like, they just wouldn't believe you anyways. oh those are bullshit and you're like well you know you can like if i say your stats are bullshit i'm gonna explain to you why your stats are bullshit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like oh there's been 3 000 mass shootings in america so far this year and you're like well actually there hasn't been no like the uh fucking uh gun track or whatever they're gonna call this a mass shooting even though by definition it is not
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gva gun violence archive
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): there you go this is two gangbangers fucking shooting at each other and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): unfortunately missing yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): unfortunately
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): not missing each other they should hit each other we'd be much better off if they had
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): 100
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): percent two percent eighty percent remember that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah that's how it goes so a little bit good news here doj is now targeting the virgin islands gun and magazine bans so according to truth about guns they recently reported how goa along with gun owners foundation had sued the u.s virgin islands over its prohibition on non-residents exercising their second amendment rights the lawsuit harry v brooks the gun rights group argued that usvi had created one of the nation's most restrictive firearm licensing schemes by
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): refusing to recognize out-of-state concealed carry permits while simultaneously barring non-residents from applying for a u.s virgin islands carry license uh the doj now wants the u.s virgin islands act 9-1-1-3 and joined immediately so following the third recent third circuit court ruling the new jersey's ban on common semi-automatic rifles and standard capacity magazines violated the second amendment u.s department of justice has asked a federal judge to immediately
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): block uh the virgin islands from enforcing its similar laws so
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): think it's good uh yeah it's good that we finally have a justice department that is working for us and against unconstitutional acts from different states and territories and i like to see this uh this pattern keep going
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): 100 agree also
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): what
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the fuck u.s virgin islands shut the fuck up
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you ain't virgins anymore come on
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): we took your cherry shut up you you've been uh colonized get with the program yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): colonize that ass uh so uh this could be some really good news for ffls with us uh yeah sots so trump administration has moved to ease suppressor exports uh currently the state department strictly controls overseas sales of firearm silencers mufflers and sound suppressors to military law enforcement only purchasers are regulated through the u.s munitions list such as such sales can help can
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): be a steep hill to climb especially when trying to compete against european suppressor companies such as a tech in norway beretta owned hosken in finland and fn in belgium and brugger and tomat oh bnt in switzerland everybody knows about bnt uh so worst american commercial suppressor exports were banned for 18 years from 2002 to 2020 meanwhile sales of commercial firearms made in america since 2020 have been handled through the commerce department's bureau of
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): industry and security and that business is doing very well so a ton of our firearms are going overseas but on thursday the state department and commerce departments published proposed tandem rule changes to the federal register which would remove firearm silencers mufflers and sound suppressors which is just like it's the same fucking thing from non-automatic and semi-automatic firearms from the U.S. munitions list and ship their export under the control of BIS. U
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): .S. will benefit by having more access to foreign markets alongside foreign competitors. So I mean yay capitalism right?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yes. Questioning.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Indeed.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Send to the cast for fucking comment.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i'm
Nick (reference, not reviewed): sorry savage you spent so much time reading the article that i muted and then it took me a minute to get back to the mute button
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): was eating crackers
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): typing out kill yourself over and over and over
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): again
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah there was a spanner a spammer cunt
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): by
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): username i'm
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): even gonna say okay all
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right idiot he should not call the suicide hotline but anyways uh so if you guys had the ability to manufacture and or or suppressors overseas,
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): would
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Fuck
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no. FFLs only.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): America or fuck you.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): All right. Jeremy. their money spend?
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): American Tech for America. It's been so
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): goddamn long reading that fucking story. I forgot what it was
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): about. Would you want to export suppressors
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you can compete internationally?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Yeah.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Like, duh.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): like i yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i think that it's a good thing for the industry but somehow it's going to fuck us over as the american gun-owning public
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): of course it's the nssf pushing for it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): but
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah like i think i'm sure that now they'll get all these crazy uh sales overseas
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): which maybe i don't know but i
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): well i mean are
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we going to be able to compete on price Because in Europe, I think the prices of suppressors are a lot lower
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): compared
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): to here in the U.S., mostly because of the way that our NFA program has been up until this
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): point. Yeah,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): they can compete with the price because there is literally no reason for most suppressors to cost what they cost. The reason that suppressors are pretty expensive overall, historically, is because it is a captive market. And they can pretty much charge whatever they want to charge because the person's already going to have to make a decision to pay $200 for a tax stamp and go through the process, which is, you know, back in the day, up to 12 months, 12 to 18 months. And that's why suppressors cost what they cost. It has nothing to do with the materials. It has nothing to do with the labor. it has nothing to do with the techniques and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): and machining it literally has to do because it was a captive market that could and would support higher prices can they compete with the prices over there abso-fucking-lutely and that's what they will absolutely do while our prices probably won't change that much there are some companies that are pushing
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know more low-cost suppressors but that is not the suppressor industry as a whole right now in the united states i think it will change and it will trend down
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): some of these suppressor companies will go out of business because they won't be able to uh you know do the quantity that it requires to get the prices to go down but i yeah i absolutely think they they can the overhead on suppressors is absolutely phenomenally outrageously high and i think they'll be able to compete easily
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): take
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): less take less profits
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): for larger market
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah yeah economy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): of scale yep yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's what i got for this week no more reading jeremy it's your turn thank god
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): real quick otis technologies uh i was looking at their website they've got the precision gun oil which i have used i like it but more importantly it's got the applicator that has the steel needle on it these are actually my favorite applicators of any i use these more than anything else and very often i will pour out what is oh i will pour out what is not pour out i will once i empty one i will pour new oil into that because i like the
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): applicator these are on sale for like seven bucks really good gun oil really good applicator with the steel needle so you can get it in the tiny nooks and crevices and that's over at otis tech o-t-i-s-t-e-c.com coupon code we like shooting 15 saves you 15 off to go check that out now jeremy it's time for reviews
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): um
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): review uh jeremy from ohio i'm assuming this is a different one
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): probably
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): unless you did you send this in
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): i
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): did not send this in i would not review a show that i'm on that seems narcissistic
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): weird uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): five squares ramble jamble mediocre memphis memory what
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mediocre
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): memphis memory and then he says
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): he sucks dick for the texture and not the taste and then we should clip that
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): know
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): what I love
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): know what I like about this guy is that he got shit hammered before he sent this in and then he probably thought he was texting his like ex or something
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): instead he just texted his name in review to 743-500-2171
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): next
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): review from my coxaflopping
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): five stars this isn't a podcast it's four to six dudes locked in their closets with a case of beer webcams and zero adult supervision occasionally interrupted by firearms discussion nick is the guy who will absolutely correct your terminology mid-sentence and somehow make you thank him for it he's got the energy of a substitute teacher who Shawn knows the material better than the real teacher and is a little smug about it. You will learn things from Nick whether you wanted to or not. Jeremy is truly an agent of chaos. He switches between wait, we're recording, and I want to drop people in
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): woodchippers. He drops the most unhinged rants each episode like he forgets it's a podcast and not a group chat, then comes back to the top that can provide something profound and relevant. sean spelled s-e-a-n is just trying to keep the ship pointed in general direction and failing beautifully every episode is at least one moment where you can hear him going okay but can we get back to
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): before
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): being fully derailed by his own crew captain of a boat that nobody else agreed to steer
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): savage
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): one r is a bald floating avatar that occasionally gives us the news and uninteresting facts he managed to even
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): take a year off
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): and no one noticed together they've got the energy of three raccoons on crack and a doorknob with a microphone.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): There
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): is no adult in this room. There has never been an adult in this room. There will never be an adult in this room. That's the whole show. Nailed it.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Dependable Don says, fuck savage. I've seen used fleshlights with more hair.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): ASMR for you.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): I'm
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): feeling pretty
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): inflated right now.
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): ever watch blue mountain state
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no no
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): uh where they fucking the one guy passes around like his lucky pocket pussy and everybody gets to clap
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): no oh god that's nasty
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): who wins this week
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): that guy that guy's in
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): the running
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): i'll give it to the second guy he
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): plus
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): my coxaflapping is pretty funny
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): it is
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): it's uh it's that drug that you get when you can't get a boner right
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): mike oxaflapping
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh okay mike oxaflapping uh email automated we like shooting.com from the email I genuinely don't know how Krista validates all these but she somehow does
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): yeah
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): please email automated at we like shooting.com and Krista will get you your winnings for the rest of you text your name and review to 743-500-2171 or you can go to we like shooting.com slash dashboard in your browser and send it in there either way we truly appreciate it and truly appreciate you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I think guys that is going to do it for this episode of we like shooting join gunners of america and we hope to see you at goals this coming weekend august 1st and 2nd uh if you are a member you get free entry to the convention and it is a blast so if you see us say hi
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): like
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): i think after every event that we do i'll always get messages on the way back that's like i saw you but you guys were busy we're not busy we're like we're literally just trying to waste time i am
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): is never busy nick don't don't fucking talk to me nick has never once been busy in his entire life so stop us
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): if you talk to
Nick (reference, not reviewed): me i'll throw a punch you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): you're
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): not interrupting anything we're not doing anything important we're literally hanging with the homies we're talking to some companies about some shit
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): that's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): very interruptible so say hi
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): messages afterwards it's like i saw you but you looked busy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): there's
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): always like quite a few of them after every event we're never busy i promise
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): uh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): gunowners.org slash wls is where you can get a discounted membership that also gets you in for free uh i don't know yeah i'm sure that there's still time and you can get tickets at the door so it's like not a thing either way
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): join
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): the agency at agency 171 it's how you can support the show if you'd like to if you think this is worth like a dollar of you know a dollar an episode if you think uh you think we're funny if you think savage is a used flashlight any of those things join us agency 171.com suicide prevention line savage pay very close attention here uh is 988 you can text it or dial it from your phone we want you here to fight the fight with us uh because genuinely we need patriots in this country
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): uh sometimes i feel a little bit disenchanted just because i feel like there's so many of the loud idiots but i always remember that the the people who are the loudest are not the majority it's us the people are going to work every single day working our asses off for our families and for for a better life and these are the people that built this country and this is the people that will continue it on so use use the number if you need
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): and
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's gonna do it we will see you this weekend we love you
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): nick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): loves you most
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): nick
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): no nick
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): told me before the show that he loves you most
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): man i
Nick (reference, not reviewed): hope not that would be kind of sad
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): Oh,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): that's actually kind of true. Anyway, always choose dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. We'll you next time. Goodbye.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): There's for sure someone out there who loves you more than I do.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): Yeah, that could be. Nick is actually a little bit of a sociopath.
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): Just remember, no matter what you are, you are somebody's fetish.
Nick (reference, not reviewed): This is true. Fucking gross. someone for everyone.
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): So,
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): I have two titles, Germathy and Food Fight. Which one is it?
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): aren't
Jeremy (reference, not reviewed): they supposed to be voting on it
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): oh
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): yeah i guess i should go look there
Nick (reference, not reviewed): yeah
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): we
Nick (reference, not reviewed): give the uh image of democracy
Unknown speaker (unknown, not reviewed): right this
Shawn (reference, not reviewed): podcast has been a production of the firearms radio network for more visit firearms radio.net